Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

This is not a lobe song

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #16
    Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
    Aw, thanks LV

    Yeah, the wrinkles are on my face. They literally started forming overnight after I started using OCM. It really damaged my skin, so I'm wary of using Coconut oil on my face... I'm doing facial brushing (in addition to body brushing), salt baths (only once a week) and taking alfalfa supplements. I'm also looking into copper peptides. You're right about the cold showers though - I'll have to add that in

    Are you noticing a difference on just your body or your face too? I don't know if it's the salt baths or the brushing, or that I've put on weight, but I used to have some lines on my chest and I noticed today that they've completely vanished! Though I'm assuming it's the weight gain...
    Yes! I've noticed the same exact thing, and I'm losing, not gaining. So it's the brushing and/or the salt baths? I would say more of an "and" than an "or" I think for me it's some combination of cold showers, hot salt baths, coconut oil, and skin brushing. I wish I knew exactly, all of this experimenting and wondering is maddening, right? But I too lost a few lines I had on my chest. So now I feel like I have to keep doing everything. Oh plus I am also taking alfalfa and msm.....more ingredients added to the stew!

    I make the salt bath water as hot as possible, and lie stomach down, so my thighs are in the water, and also my stomach, boobs, chest, stomach, and upper arms. I listen to a podcast and try to stay in the water for at least half an hour. Then a cold shower. So far my skin seems to really love it. I can't wait till summer so I can go soak in the ocean instead of my tub!

    I was thinking of facial brushing as well, I would love to hear your thoughts about it and whether or not you're seeing any results!
    be the hair that knots with my hair
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    primal since oct. 1, 2012

    Comment


    • #17
      Originally posted by little vase View Post
      I make the salt bath water as hot as possible, and lie stomach down, so my thighs are in the water, and also my stomach, boobs, chest, stomach, and upper arms. I listen to a podcast and try to stay in the water for at least half an hour. Then a cold shower. So far my skin seems to really love it. I can't wait till summer so I can go soak in the ocean instead of my tub!

      I was thinking of facial brushing as well, I would love to hear your thoughts about it and whether or not you're seeing any results!
      Lucky you - It's my dream to live by the sea! Right now I live in London...! Do you immerse your face in the water too? Also, how long have you been doing it? Was there a "getting worse before getting better" stage?

      I love the facial brushing! THe most instant result I had was that my lips (which have been perpetually chapped since I was 10) instantly plumped up and are no longer chapping! I've spent a small fortune on lip balm over the last 20 years - it's incredible that this may have been a circulatory problem all along. Haven't noticed much other than that, but it's only been two weeks or so. I'll keep you posted

      Btw - great avatar
      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

      - Ray Peat

      Comment


      • #18
        E.M.T.W.L
        Entry Five: Peace with Food

        I think I've been doing this in earnest for over a week now. Today was a good day. I ate when I was hungry, and I ate as much as I wanted. It's so liberating to plate what I want, and not feel guilty about every morsel I put into my mouth.

        I have a friend who also has an ED. We speak about our relationship with food, and where it stems from. She said to me one time that she wants "Peace with food", the phrase really moved me, because that's what I want too. I just want to be able to eat without worrying what's going to happen, eat without binging, eat until I'm full and be able to leave food on my plate if I don't want it. My obsession with food and my weight has clouded so much of my life. I know it's served a function and that's why I've held on to it, but I'm ready to let go and let something new into my life instead of it. I want to change.

        Sleep - Only six hours again last night, but I think it's cos' I went to bed late (1am). I think going to bed early is key for me - I'm programmed to wake early after all these years of chronic insomnia. No night sweats, thankfully, and the sleep was pretty good.

        Exercise - Half an hour of yoga, a bit of skipping, and about an hour of walking and biking. Again, didn't really feel like doing much else.

        Food: - I've decided just to copy and paste my food trackers from now on. They're there anyway, and maybe someone might find them interesting.

        3594 cals : 214.3 (F), 305.9 (C), 129.7 (P).

        Egg, whole, fried 3 medium
        228 18 1 16
        Beets, cooked 50 grams
        31 1 5 1
        Mussels,prawns, calamari 500 grams
        751 41 22 69
        White potato 7 small (1-3/4" to 2-1/4" dia, raw)
        906 21 169 14
        Carrots, raw 2.5 medium
        63 0 15 1
        Olive oil 9 tablespoon
        1074 122 0 0
        Crab, canned, princes 55 grams
        40 0 1 9
        Banana, raw 2 medium (7" to 7-7/8" long)
        210 1 54 3
        Orange, raw 1 medium (2-5/8" dia)
        62 0 15 1
        Spinach, cooked 1.5 cup
        117 7 11 8
        Milk, 2% fat 0.8 cup
        98 4 9 6
        Sugar, raw 1 teaspoon
        15 0 4 0

        It sounds like a lot, but t didn't feel like too much food. The olive oil sent the calories up.

        To conclude - I'm still peeing like a racehorse, and I've noticed that I'm bruising more easily, but I'm starting to think it's the Alfalfa supplement. I googled it and it's actually meant to increase urine flow, and one of its side effects is bruising more easily. Maybe this is why I'm so thirsty atm as well.

        As a sign off, I did have a moment of sadness earlier that I'm probably never going to be stick thin again. It sounds bad, but I love the feeling of my hip bones jutting out. I love being able to wear anything. I love how being that thin makes me feel vulnerable and powerful at the same time. Anything more than 112 lbs and I just feel big. I spend most of my time hovering around 123 lbs (18 - 19% bf) feeling fat. Crazy that right now I'm weighing 10 lbs more than that and not feeling much different! It says a lot really.

        Last edited by YogaBare; 03-23-2013, 01:07 AM.
        "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

        In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

        - Ray Peat

        Comment


        • #19
          E.M.T.W.L

          Entry Six
          : Love is the way.

          Continuing this journey into the unknown, I know I shouldn't be, but I've been measuring myself every day. And today, everything was actually down a bit. Weird. Considering I've overshot the 3K goal pretty much every day. It's probably just water weight though... I'll see what the scale says tomorrow. It'll be a week since my last weigh-in.

          Sleep:
          Another crap night's sleep. Think I drifted off around 11.30, and woke up at 4! Tossed and turned til nearly 6, then got up. More night sweats. Not as bad as previously, but I felt really chilly when I got up.

          The funny thing is that, in spite of eating 3.5K cals yest, I was a little bit hungry going to sleep.

          Sleep and food are strongly interlinked for me. If I'm remotely hungry I sleep badly. And every time I sleep badly, I'm ravenous, which usually descends into a binge. Not today however... I ate a lot, but I eat a lot every day now - ha I think that's the reason I didn't binge - I knew I could just have what I wanted, when I wanted. Also tried to do something relaxing for myself instead of banging my head against a wall trying to work - went for acupuncture

          Exercise:
          Biked across East London - one hour.

          Food:

          CALS - FAT(g)- CARBS(g)- PROT(g)
          3326 - 114.8- 412.2- 147.0

          White potato
          311 7 58 5
          Banana, raw 5 medium (7" to 7-7/8" long)
          525 2 135 6
          Raspberries, frozen 140 grams
          144 0 37 1
          Rice, white, cooked, regular 2 cup, cooked
          407 1 88 8
          Olive oil 5 tablespoon
          597 68 0 0
          Beets, cooked 40 grams
          25 1 4 1
          Crab, canned, 55 grams
          40 0 1 9
          Nixe Salmon, canned 180 grams
          234 10 0 37
          Milk, 2% fat 0.8 cup
          98 4 9 6
          Coconut water (liquid from coconuts) 4 cup
          182 2 36 7
          Game meat, deer, ground, cooked, pan-broiled (a.k.a. Venison) 250 grams
          468 21 0 66
          Margarita 1 cocktail
          168 0 11 0
          Honey 2 tablespoon
          128 0 35 0

          I was ravenous today. Before I even left the house this morning I had raspberries, three bananas and a potato. After cycling for a very short time, I started to get hunger pangs. I had to have lunch at 11.30, and I was really craving... fat! I basically had a BS crash, which I haven't had in ages. It was way too many carbs, and not balanced enough for first thing in the day.

          I'm going to cut back on the Alfalfa supplement from six pills to two. I didn't realise it stimulates thyroid, and acts as a natural laxative and diuretic. I don't want the effects of what I'm doing to be overly influenced by supplements.

          Tired and in bed late.... zzzzzzzz
          Last edited by YogaBare; 03-22-2013, 04:22 PM.
          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

          - Ray Peat

          Comment


          • #20
            Originally posted by Cierra
            thanks for the link, I used to go to that site a lot when I was failing at ED recovery/just barely beginning to recover. It helped me to get over the initial intense fear of just blowing up like a balloon the instant I ate something that my brain didn't approve of, for whatever insignificant reason. Maybe I'll read some things on there again, as a reminder since I am not really doing so many self love exercises anymore. I am really thankful to be able to communicate with someone like you, who I can relate to on so many different levels. You don't know how comforting it is! But it's sad at the same time. I honestly don't want anyone to feel exactly as I did when I was so thin: so powerful and so vulnerable at the same time. Weak and beautiful, in perfect control with superhuman willpower (so it seemed.) I share those emotions with you, but I also want to remind you of all the things that are better now. I don't know how far down the rabbit hole you fell, but I was pretty far gone into the disorder and felt the consequences of it daily, and nightly. I was literally insane from malnutrition. I must say, if I had to consciously choose between being rail thin or my sanity, my mental health would win every time! As would the return of my libido, regular sleeping habits, fertility, fullness/strength of my hair, and the wittiness/uniqueness of my personality. I hope you can embrace your new found health and liveliness and agree that it is a fair (if not, amazing) trade-off to what your life used to be. Hugs, and here's to the rest of your week going smoothly!


            Oh, P.S. the dry brushing is amazing. I've only been at it a few days but WOW my boyfriend was absolutely amazed that my notorious "vampire's touch" was cured. For the first time in my life, my hands and feet are the same temperature as the rest of my body, thank you so much for the suggestion!
            Hey Cierra, thanks for the thanks! It's great to communicate with you too. Tbh my rabbit hole looks pretty different to yours. I'm mostly a binge eater, with periods of bulimia and anorexia. Quite a few times I've restricted severely and become very underweight and have had all the comments from family & friends, but I can only sustain periods of severe restriction during / after big changes, or when things are going smoothly in my life.

            To me, anorexia is all about control, and I'm not a controlled person. I'm a represser, and the binging and purging helps me push down my feelings. I'm completely dependent on food to make me feel good - it's like a drug to me. I've been at those points of malnutrition where I've started to lose my mind, and it's not too long before I crack and start binging again. Then its short term binge-retrict: not long enough for me to become skeletal.

            So my rabbit hole is quite different to yours. Mine is a dark place of struggling through the day trying to appear normal to people, but thinking about food all the time. Then as soon as it's night time and / or I can be alone, I binge to the point of exploding, sometimes make myself puke, usually just fall into a coma, then wake the next day filled with self loathing and suicidal thoughts. I stop socialising, dating, seeing friends, even working sometimes, when I can't get out of bed. It's the opposite side of the coin to anorexia, but both of them are death wishes imo.

            I haven't been underweight in about two years, and before going primal I had pretty maintained at 19% body fat. I was still binging and restricting, but I didn't feel out of control. I started restricting quite severely when I started Primal and dropped to 18% body fat straight away, was dropping more weight but I was starting to go crazy from teh lack of sleep and I started binging again, but worse than it had been in years. The last eight months have just been a nightmare food wise where I've oscillated between completely starving myself (pretending I was "fasting"... for 72 hours), then binging. No middle ground.

            This experiment is really out of desperation and I'm scared. I haven't been restricting at all and I feel like a fat blob... I'm eating way too much. My body is telling me I need it: I know I don't, but I'm trying to go with it. I'm just waiting for something to happen. I don't know what! Anyway... sorry for the verbal regurgitation! I feel really frustrated today, cos I don't see anything improving.

            On a completely separate note - that's brilliant about the body brushing! I'm not having much luck with the cold extremities, but it's definitely making my skin softer. If you're into essential oils btw geranium is good for circulation... And it smells divine...
            "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

            In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

            - Ray Peat

            Comment


            • #21
              The dry brushing on the face is amazing of course but to really amp it up for wrinkles and awesome skin try (after brushing) filling up the sink with cold water, hold your breath and dunk your face in as long as you can. Take a breath and repeat 1-2 more times. Really beautiful skin that is softer/smoother than a babies bum

              For heat I like body brushing immediately before hopping into bed. I don't notice the warm effect it has at other times, but when I jump right under the covers I notice that within a few minutes I feel very warm and tingly all over. After brushing for many years I have found that it is important to have a really stiff brush. I use a very firm natural hair bristle brush on the face, but for the body I have one that is made with some kind of vegetable bristle that can do a much better job than the hair bristle brushes. I buy them locally but they are from Bernard Jensen - ah.. here is the link Skin Brush Combo those brushes are miles better than any others I have found.
              PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

              Comment


              • #22
                Originally posted by YogaBare View Post

                My body is telling me I need it: I know I don't, but I'm trying to go with it. I'm just waiting for something to happen. I don't know what! Anyway... sorry for the verbal regurgitation! I feel really frustrated today, cos I don't see anything improving.
                What makes you think your body is telling you it wants something that it doesn't need? I know this is hard and uncomfortable on many levels. I don't like the way I look or feel right now but I know that to ever achieve truly vibrant over the top health that this process is necessary. It won't last forever. I think your body is screaming at you as loud as it can to tell you what it needs to do the work it wants to do. This isn't going to make us look great in a month or less. I will feel lucky if it happens in 6 months.

                If it helps at all start asking men around you to pick out pictures of women they find to be ideal. I think you'll find they aren't after protruding hip bones as much as a good muscle base with a moderately softening layer of fat on top. I know that being super skinny can feel better to us for various reasons but when trying to heal it can somewhat help to realize that men don't find runway models attractive.

                (((Hugs)))
                PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

                Comment


                • #23
                  I love how being that thin makes me feel vulnerable and powerful at the same time.


                  This for me is the essence of my ED. Wow, only someone who has lived it could write that, there is such a feeling with thinness, this phrase has had me thinking it over since I read it yesterday.

                  Comment


                  • #24
                    Originally posted by PaleoMom View Post
                    What makes you think your body is telling you it wants something that it doesn't need? I know this is hard and uncomfortable on many levels. I don't like the way I look or feel right now but I know that to ever achieve truly vibrant over the top health that this process is necessary. It won't last forever. I think your body is screaming at you as loud as it can to tell you what it needs to do the work it wants to do. This isn't going to make us look great in a month or less. I will feel lucky if it happens in 6 months.

                    If it helps at all start asking men around you to pick out pictures of women they find to be ideal. I think you'll find they aren't after protruding hip bones as much as a good muscle base with a moderately softening layer of fat on top. I know that being super skinny can feel better to us for various reasons but when trying to heal it can somewhat help to realize that men don't find runway models attractive.

                    (((Hugs)))
                    You're such a sweet heart Paleomom - thanks for the support! My body temp also bummed me out a bit... plus I've gained 4 lbs But mostly I'm concerned that I am eating so much every day - I was aiming for 2.5K, but it's been over 3.5K every day for nearly two weeks...I just can't stop eating. It's so contradictory to how other people get what they want (thinness) and I'm scared that I'm just using it as an excuse to eat too much. Feel like I should be going for therapy: not eating! ha. But that hasn't worked in the past. It feels like I've no other recourse.

                    I'm really trusting in the unknown, and in this bizarre theory of healing, and it helps a lot that you and a few others are on the journey too. And you're totally right - this is a long term plan. I think I was a bit delusional when I started - I half thought I was going to lose weight..ha!

                    Cheers for the skin brushing tips - I'm all about the wrinkle prevention atm I just told Dexy about this massage technique that is supposed to herald great results: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrceQS7qdaI We could start a new thread documenting our success with that too

                    Hugs back!

                    Originally posted by Dexy View Post
                    I love how being that thin makes me feel vulnerable and powerful at the same time.


                    This for me is the essence of my ED. Wow, only someone who has lived it could write that, there is such a feeling with thinness, this phrase has had me thinking it over since I read it yesterday.
                    I'm glad it resonated with you Dex When I'm that thin I feel like a delicate, rare flower that women seem to envy, and men want to protect. The displacement of their energy onto me gives me power, and confidence in my fragility. Plus there's the sense of being in control of how people perceive me by being in control of my body. At least that's how it happens for me...

                    By the way, I found this japanese facial massage for wrinkles The woman who created it is 63 - she looks like she's in her early 30's. Am going to start tomorrow, ha Tanaka Face Massage Part 1 (English) - YouTube
                    Last edited by YogaBare; 09-25-2013, 04:13 PM.
                    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                    - Ray Peat

                    Comment


                    • #25
                      E.M.T.W.L

                      Entry Seven
                      : Vulnerable and powerful.

                      I've been writing a lot today about the darkness of my ED, and the places within myself that it's carried me to.

                      I always aimed for the feelings of control, rarity and beauty that come with thinness... but I invariably descended into lack of control and powerlessness. The ED is just a reflection of what goes on inside. Deep down I feel like a failure: it manifests as "I can't even succeed at being thin".

                      Anyway, it's been a heavy day. Literally - I'm up 4 lbs. I don't know what I was expecting, eating 3.5K cals a day, but in some deluded way I actually thought I was going to lose weight. I'm sick of wearing black

                      Sleep:
                      I am so pissed off about my sleep. Last night it was only four hours: 12.30am - 4.30am. How am I not sleeping when I'm eating so much? Normally 2k cals would be enough to assure me a good night's sleep. This insomnia is the bane of my life (along with my curvacious hips )

                      Temperature:
                      Finally bought a thermometer and I was a bit shocked this morning when my temperature read at 35.5C (95.9F). The recommend basal body temp is 36.7C (98F). I knew I was crap at regulating my body temp, but I didn't realise it was this low. I'm a bit freaked out that I might be hypothyroid. Let's see what tomorrow brings.

                      Exercise:
                      Cycled for half an hour.

                      Food:
                      CALS |FAT | CARBS | PROT
                      3669 |117.6 | 501.4 | 161.5

                      Raspberries, frozen 80 grams
                      82 0 21 1
                      Banana, raw 2 medium (7" to 7-7/8" long)
                      210 1 54 3
                      Ground beef, regular, cooked 500 grams
                      1378 93 0 127
                      White potato 3.5 small (1-3/4" to 2-1/4" dia, raw)
                      453 11 85 7
                      Onken Natural Set Biopot Yogurt 180 grams
                      130 7 10 7
                      Pineapple, melon, blueberry, apple mix 640 grams
                      243 0 56 0
                      Puddings, rice, low fat 520 grams
                      473 7 86 17
                      Honey 230 grams
                      699 0 190 1

                      It was another day of hunger. My stomach feels like an insatiable little dog, constantly growling and begging for food. I'm ready for bed now and in spite of eating 3.7K cals, I'm hungry. I don't understand it. Paleomom said that when people come from backgrounds of restriction their bodies send huge hunger signals. But then I imagine the low carb dogma in my head saying that I feel hungry cos of blood sugar issues (from eating too many carbs). I guess only time will tell!


                      As my favourite poet Rumi said:

                      "This is love -
                      To fly towards a secret sky"


                      g102736_data-0000-c8a0428b13ecb356011404389de2611b.jpg
                      Last edited by YogaBare; 03-22-2013, 04:20 PM.
                      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                      - Ray Peat

                      Comment


                      • #26
                        Well, I have to admit that my comment on the cold helping with wrinkles was from reading others that had help with it. I've been lucky to not have any wrinkles yet, yikes, am I jinxing myself by saying that? I do keep my face out of the sun and always have and I haven't used any product of any kind on my face since high school- I don't know if that has helped or not.

                        I wouldn't stress TOO much about the low temp yet. I notice a huge correlation between good sleep and my body temp. If you get a good 8-9 hour solid and deep sleep and your temp is still that low then put some more thought into it. For now focus on improving the sleep and then see how that changes your temp.
                        PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
                        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

                        Comment


                        • #27
                          E.M.T.W.L
                          Entry Eight - Face of Flush


                          I bookmarked this section of Matt Stone's book when I first read it:
                          With lowered mitochondrial activity food passes through the gut more slowly, which can lead to constipation and gas and bloating from excessive fermentation and putrefaction of the food... With lowered mitochondrial activity, the body temperature remains lower...
                          Bacterial overgrowth of the small intestine is also something I believe can arise from a low body temperature, leading to other digestive problems, leaky gut syndrome, allergies, autoimmunity, mental/emotional disturbances, etc.
                          - Matt Stone.

                          I've had GI issues for a long time, and these got the worst they've ever been when I was low carb. But since I started this "Eating More" campaign... I've been regular. I thought it might be due to the Alfalfa, or the body brushing. Then last night I read on the amazing Your Eatopia site:

                          "Gastroparesis is a survival mechanism whereby the stomach doubles its emptying time to the small intestine, meaning the food is churned in the stomach for longer to try to allow for the small intestine to maximize the too-little energy coming in to the body. Gastroparesis begins easing within a few days of doggedly staying at or above the minimum intake and it resolves quickly if you persist in eating the recovery guideline amounts, usually within a couple of weeks to a month. In fact the motility of the entire gut is slowed to try to extract as much energy as possible during starvation [M Hirakawa et. al., 1990] and this resolves during dedicated refeeding efforts."

                          Unbelievable.

                          Even though I started this journal noting that I've "probably" harmed my body with all the years of abuse, I didn't really believe it. And even though I can say I "have an ED"... I don't really believe it. I felt compelled to dismiss the articles on "Your Eatopia" because I'm not underweight. Then I read the symptoms of a restrictive ED and saw that what I'm going through - the voracious hunger, the bloating (my stomach, and now my face!), the suddenly regular bowel movements - are all textbook. It was comforting. And it gave me a bit more faith in this whole process.

                          Sleep:
                          Not great, again. Went to sleep at 11.30pm, and woke at at 1.30am. Starving. Like, wanted to bite my arm off hungry. I had practically nothing in my fridge (a downside to this experiment {you know, apart from the insidious weight gain, bloating, feeling like I've lost my mind} is how much I have to shop!! I'm going grocery shopping every day, and I still have NOTHING to eat!) but I just allowed myself to eat what was left in the fridge - some cheese, some yogurt, a bit of honey. Got back to sleep at 3.30am and had broken sleep til 8am.

                          Temperature:
                          Checked it several times, and each time gave me a different reading! Woke up feeling quite warm, but the readings were: 35.8C (96.44F), 36.3C (97.34F), 36C (96.8) and a few more around the same. Average was prob 36.1C (96.98). Still not great, but I'm reassured that I'm not a corpse.

                          Exercise:
                          Nada. Well, about 15 mins of yoga, but that's nothing. The most active thing I did was walk 40 seconds to the local shop... in my pyjamas (under my coat)! I actually feel like crap today, physically. My face is flushed and swollen, I'm exhausted, and my nose is a stream of clear water. Plus it was SNOWING. I actually don't care about exercising right now. I was afraid of losing muscle mass, but I'm pretty active as is so I'm not going to worry about it.

                          Food:
                          CALS | FAT | CARBS| PROT
                          3785 |176.4 |443.9 | 131.3

                          Olive oil 5 tablespoon
                          597 68 0 0
                          Coconut water, canned or bottled 2 can
                          263 1 60 5
                          Rice, cooked 2.5 cup, cooked
                          532 4 109 10
                          Wild Salmon, canned 218 grams
                          283 12 0 44
                          Banana, raw 4 large (8" to 8-7/8" long)
                          484 2 124 6
                          Creme Fraiche low fat 200 grams
                          326 30 8 6
                          Egg, whole, fried 3 medium
                          228 18 1 16
                          Butter 0.6 tablespoon
                          61 7 0 0
                          Sugar 3 teaspoon
                          49 0 13 0
                          Orange, raw 2 medium (2-5/8" dia)
                          123 0 31 2
                          Milk, 2% fat 1.2 cup
                          146 6 14 10
                          Seaweed, dried 10 grams
                          30 0 5 3
                          Honey 80 grams
                          243 0 66 0
                          Cheese, Parmesan, dry grated 60 grams
                          259 17 2 23
                          Onken Natural Set Biopot Yogurt 100 grams
                          72 4 6 4
                          Beets, cooked 50 grams
                          31 1 5 1
                          Coconut oil 0.5 tablespoon
                          59 7 0 0

                          I can't remember ever experiencing hunger like I did over the last three days. I was ravenous every three hours, and it freaked me out. But I think it might be over... I had a small mountain of rice with salmon and seaweed for lunch and it took nearly 7 hours before I wanted to eat again... and then it was just bananas, honey and creme fraiche. Still 3.8K cals though!

                          And at the end of the day:
                          A friend of mine is DJing tonight so I'm supposed to go clubbing... Am I ready for boozing, taking drugs, and staying up until tomorrow afternoon? Umm, no. I'm not going. I rarely do it these days, but it would be one of those nights, and it would be the worst thing for me right now. Even drinking wine last weekend really fucked up my sleep! Plus, in all honesty, I feel gross. I don't want to go through the hassle of finding something (black) to wear and then going out and still feeling unattractive. I'm not quite sure what excuse to give my friends. I haven't told them what I'm doing. My friends who know me well think I'm completely fucked up about food and they would roll their eyes at this, seeing it as another phase.

                          I'm so unbelievably grateful to the MDA people who are supporting me at this completely weird moment of my life.
                          Last edited by YogaBare; 03-24-2013, 06:13 AM.
                          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                          - Ray Peat

                          Comment


                          • #28
                            Lobe?
                            Crohn's, doing SCD

                            Comment


                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                              Lobe?
                              Typo! I meant to write "This is not a love song" but I then liked the variation, ha

                              Hey Knife, btw - I remember reading a post of yours before where you said that when you started Primal you ate solidly for several months... Am I remembering right? Why do you think you did that?
                              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                              - Ray Peat

                              Comment


                              • #30
                                Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                                [B]E.M.T.W.L

                                Even though I started this journal noting that I've "probably" harmed my body with all the years of abuse, I didn't really believe it. And even though I can say I "have an ED"... I don't really believe it. I felt compelled to dismiss the articles on "Your Eatopia" because I'm not underweight. Then I read the symptoms of a restrictive ED and saw that what I'm going through - the voracious hunger, the bloating (my stomach, and now my face!), the suddenly regular bowel movements - are all textbook. It was comforting. And it gave me a bit more faith in this whole process.
                                Yes! This was my experience too. I've been so emotional about it all too lately and I'm not an emotional person. I'm weeping out of compassion for myself if that makes any sense. Keep up the journal, you make me feel like I have a friend along for this journey
                                PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
                                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X