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    • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post

      Thanks for the support! What do you mean by baseline?
      I'm still nursing my daughter and no period yet. My last real period was in end of July 2010. I miscarried in August, conceived my daughter in September, and haven't had a period since. According to my research, periods return for nursing mothers around 13 months or so postpartum, but my daughter is almost 28 months, no period.

      Around 6 months ago, I spent some time looking for signs of fertility-- any cervical fluid or pimples or anything.. took my temps... no discernable patterns and I just gave up. I get all excited whenever I get cramps or break out, which has happened a few times, but didn't result in anything.

      Things supposedly change after pregnancy and postpartum, so I probably won't know what's 'normal' for me until my first post-partum period returns.

      Still, this stuff really interests me, and I do think women should know more about their bodies.

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      • Originally posted by diene View Post
        Taking my basal body temperature really disrupts my sleep because it's not accurate unless you take it after your longest block of sleep (ideally more than 6 hours) in any given night, and I usually wake up to pee in the middle of the night. So I always have to take my temp when I wake up to pee--and it's such a hassle. I'll keep thinking about it too so whenever I'm slightly awake in the middle of the night, I'll think about how I have to take my temp, and this causes me to not sleep well. Which is why I always give up after a few days.
        ^ the main reason why I can't chart temps properly, so I relied on cervical position. It took a couple of months for me to know what was normal for me though.

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        • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
          I'm seriously going through hell today. I don't know what's going on. I feel like throwing up and I'm on the verge of having a panic attack. Somebody shoot me
          Hey, hope you feel better soon.....

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          • Yoga maybe the dark hours were because you are losing fat? When I was losing fat a few weeks ago, I felt pretty depressed (though very aware of the depression) for an hour or two once every few weeks randomly.

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            • Originally posted by girlhk View Post
              I'm still nursing my daughter and no period yet.
              girlhk - that has been known to keep your period at bay. not to be a butt-in-ski here

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              • Originally posted by spk View Post
                girlhk - that has been known to keep your period at bay. not to be a butt-in-ski here
                lol, yes, but many women get their periods back when their nursling starts solids, and even get pregnant while nursing. I do believe if I were in better health, my body would be able to handle a nursing kid AND a pregnancy.

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                • Originally posted by girlhk View Post
                  I'm still nursing my daughter and no period yet. My last real period was in end of July 2010. I miscarried in August, conceived my daughter in September, and haven't had a period since. According to my research, periods return for nursing mothers around 13 months or so postpartum, but my daughter is almost 28 months, no period.

                  Around 6 months ago, I spent some time looking for signs of fertility-- any cervical fluid or pimples or anything.. took my temps... no discernable patterns and I just gave up. I get all excited whenever I get cramps or break out, which has happened a few times, but didn't result in anything.

                  Things supposedly change after pregnancy and postpartum, so I probably won't know what's 'normal' for me until my first post-partum period returns.

                  Still, this stuff really interests me, and I do think women should know more about their bodies.
                  If it's not a thread jack, I demand-breastfed my son for four years. No period for the first three of those years. I seem to remember reading that night feeding has a lot to do with it, and ours only stopped that at around three years old.
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                  • Originally posted by badgergirl View Post
                    If it's not a thread jack, I demand-breastfed my son for four years. No period for the first three of those years. I seem to remember reading that night feeding has a lot to do with it, and ours only stopped that at around three years old.
                    Wow, 4 years My daughter is almost 2.5 and it feels like forever already.

                    Yes, night nursing suppresses ovulation... it has to do with high prolactin levels. My daughter still nurses at night, sometimes once, sometimes 5.

                    Re prolactin levels, it's supposed to be a stress hormone, but it's always elevated in lactating women...... does that mean lactation is a stressful state? Just throwing this out here because YB's journal discusses hormones all the time

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                    • Originally posted by girlhk View Post
                      Wow, 4 years My daughter is almost 2.5 and it feels like forever already.
                      It was forever and for the last six months we kept chanting: when you're four THERE'S NO MORE. I'd always wanted to let him self wean...but I'd reached my ick barrier by the time he was four and could not have carried on. He still wants to nurse now (he's five and a half). It's clearly a societal/cultural squeamishness that associates an ambulant and vocal child nursing with inappropriate motives, but I'm a product of my society and culture and I just couldn't do it anymore.

                      That said, I do miss it sometimes.
                      I like badgers, books and booze, more or less in that order.

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                      • Thread jack away ladies! The discussion is interesting.

                        Originally posted by girlhk View Post
                        Yes, night nursing suppresses ovulation... it has to do with high prolactin levels. My daughter still nurses at night, sometimes once, sometimes 5.

                        Re prolactin levels, it's supposed to be a stress hormone, but it's always elevated in lactating women...... does that mean lactation is a stressful state? Just throwing this out here because YB's journal discusses hormones all the time
                        Interesting... my prolactin is high and I don't ovulate.

                        It seems wrong biologically that lactation would be a stressful state, but perhaps it all has to do with your hormonal balance? High prolactin might be okay in one woman if they have the right level of other hormones to balance it... I'm just speculating really. Maybe the stress response is why some women lose weight when they breastfeed, and some women gain?

                        And yes: hormones are my latest fad

                        Originally posted by turquoisepassion View Post
                        Hope you are better now! :-S
                        Thank you

                        Originally posted by max219 View Post
                        Yoga maybe the dark hours were because you are losing fat? When I was losing fat a few weeks ago, I felt pretty depressed (though very aware of the depression) for an hour or two once every few weeks randomly.
                        Maybe... except that I seem to have gained weight overnight :/
                        "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                        In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                        - Ray Peat

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                        • Thursday, 3rd Oct

                          I'm still not feeling great today. I seemed to have gained a lot of weight in the last two days. I have what can only be described as boils on my forehead, at either side of my pituitary I have pain in the backs of my thighs and along my ribs, but it feels like the fat is what's hurting?! I also woke up this morning smelling bad. I just want to hide away and not have anyone see me. I can't believe that less than 36 hours ago I was at a gig in skin tight trousers and a little top, feeling pretty foxy. Now I feel like an entirely more bovine animal

                          There's something on my mind which I need to share, but I warn you that I'm about to move into the abstract and/or psycho somatic realm with high doses of heaviness, so the faint of heart may need to exit at this point.

                          Still there? Okay

                          Umm. I'm going to gather my thoughts and come back for an edit
                          Last edited by YogaBare; 10-03-2013, 05:06 AM.
                          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                          - Ray Peat

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                          • Oh, darn, sorry to hear that. It is one of those days - I feel for you. I am thinking maybe you are coming down with something? Fingers crossed you feel better and please, share.
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                            • Originally posted by Leida View Post
                              Oh, darn, sorry to hear that. It is one of those days - I feel for you. I am thinking maybe you are coming down with something? Fingers crossed you feel better and please, share.
                              Thanks Leida <3



                              This post has been a long time coming. In fact, I've already written and deleted it twice before THere is a link to the somatic aspect of all this, which I'll get to.

                              First, I have to come clean about something. There is a man in my life who I candidly refer to as my BF. Well, the thing is... we've been seeing each other for a few months now but... we haven't had sex yet.

                              I know that's totally abnormal for people in our modern era, and it's not that I don't find him attractive - I really do. I've just needed to take things very, very slowly with him. My love life has been a disaster in the past, and coupled with that, I have a lot of issues around sex. I was abused as a child, and had quite a few "bad" experiences as an adult. Yeah, as bad as you can imagine, though I was never beaten up or anything. Many "bad" things that happened to me were with men that I trusted deeply.

                              The last time I was intimate with a guy he was really forceful with me and the experience was the final nail in the coffin and put me off having sex for a long time. I dated a lot, but I never got beyond three dates with anyone because after three dates they expected sex and I couldnt bring myself to do it. I tried to convince myself that I could deal with this alone, and that I just needed to shag someone and get it over with, but when one guy asked me over to his house for date three I had a panic attack before the date and cancelled last minute. I stopped dating after that.

                              That's around the time I started journalling here. As those of you who've been with me for this journey know, I spent quite a few months sorting myself out.

                              Then in July, many things changed. My progesterone treatment kicked in, I started Peating... and I started dating again. I went on a date with a Chilean guy, then I went on a date with yoga guy. To start dating again was a much bigger deal for me than I let on at the time. I was so scared about getting involved with someone and didn't know how I'd cope with sex. I didn't know if I should just deal with it myself, or if I should hope to meet someone who I could be honest with. When I met YG though, I felt something different, and I felt like he'd understand.

                              As you guys know, things were complicated with us from the start. He broke up with his girl friend to be with me, then I told him I wanted an "open relationship", and now we've been seeing each other for a few months and haven't even had sex. I shouldn't laugh but the whole thing is kind of comical ...

                              As it does, the prospect of sex came up as soon as we got together, and I knew I had to tell him I needed to take things slowly. I didn't go into any details; just said I needed to take my time. Unbelievably, he's been amazing about it. He told me he doesn't want me to feel pressured, and that it'll happen when it's right. Which brings me to my psycho-somatic link...

                              The time is kind-of getting right. I still feel scared that he's going to leave me as soon as we have sex, and it's not helped by the manner in which we met (him having a gf). But the fears are shrinking as we spend more time together. We're getting closer, and he wants to see me more. And somehow, I think this is contributing to this big hormonal freak out I seem to be having.

                              Honestly, I look like I gained 7lbs overnight. I have cystic acne on my forehead and either side of my mouth. Severe mood swings yesterday, and today I feel depressed. I haven't looked (or felt) like this in a long time.

                              In some way, I think the thyroid medication, the progesterone, and moving on in my personal life are linking and having a physical effect I don't understand.

                              Don't really know what else to say... I feel like I should go for therapy to help me with this transition, but I actually don't have the money right now. I tried joining a forum for people who've gone through this kind of thing, but honestly the people on those forums seem really, really broken and unable to act as sounding boards. Unlike the wise souls on MDA

                              Anyway, sorry if you've read this and wish you hadn't! I know it's heavy. I really appreciate all of you being here and giving me support. You've no idea how much you help me.

                              <3
                              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                              - Ray Peat

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                              • [[hugs]]

                                I hope you sort it out and I'm glad the YG isn't pressuring you or anything. I've gone through periods of time where I've needed to abstain from sex because I felt too pressured (all in my head) and while getting back into it can be odd, the break always helps. I hope you won't be afraid to share here. I've written in other forums about specific anxiety/depression issues and had the same feeling you got, that folks are too broken to help, except to say "Oh man, me too."
                                Depression Lies

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