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  • Originally posted by Zach View Post
    Thats why i thought pb and C were the same. They have such a similar style of arguing.

    Glad that is closed. Now we shall see if im still around in a day or two.
    Uh-oh... did you get a warning??

    Nah, to be fair, Paleobird was articulate

    Oh btw, we were talking about Ido - ironically, today I dropped into a yoga class, and the woman was teaching a style that was combining "Iyengar, Ashtanga, Yoga Therapy, meditation, The Feldenkrais Method, Sensory Awareness, Focusing, Dance and subtle energetic healing". But in a nutshell: it was really movement-based! Probably like Ido for beginners. Weird how things like that just slot into place sometimes...

    Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
    Yeah haha. I understand the need to distance yourself from people's internet personalities, it can make you crazy, but that's probably why I just talk to people who seem more "real" (or are particularly funny). I don't think I'm as articulate in person, but I don't amp anything up in writing that I wouldn't really say in person.
    Are you more shy in person? I think a lot of people here are probably very different to how they are in reality. Ombat even said I was very different - she didnt expect me to be so lighthearted and relaxed. I guess back then I was posting a lot of heavy stuff, but in person people never knew what I was going through.
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
      Are you more shy in person? I think a lot of people here are probably very different to how they are in reality. Ombat even said I was very different - she didnt expect me to be so lighthearted and relaxed. I guess back then I was posting a lot of heavy stuff, but in person people never knew what I was going through.
      Yeah, a bit more shy, but it really depends on who I'm talking to and what we're talking about obviously. A bit of liquor in me and I'm not shy at all. Then I have trouble with being blunt
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      • I never understand personal attacks.I dont understand probably because I am going to be paid to disagree and argue with people for the rest of my life lol. The two US Supreme Court justices that most often bash each other's opinions (Scalia and Ginsberg) ...are best friends in real life despite their deep ideological differences. I am very surprised at how many ideological debates on mda take a nose dive toward personal attacks.

        In any case...I have been on many forums for fashion but this is my first nutrition one. I like mda aside from the warfare over things that are a matter of personal choice.
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        • Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
          Yeah, a bit more shy, but it really depends on who I'm talking to and what we're talking about obviously. A bit of liquor in me and I'm not shy at all. Then I have trouble with being blunt
          You sound irish!

          Originally posted by turquoisepassion View Post
          I never understand personal attacks.I dont understand probably because I am going to be paid to disagree and argue with people for the rest of my life lol. The two US Supreme Court justices that most often bash each other's opinions (Scalia and Ginsberg) ...are best friends in real life despite their deep ideological differences. I am very surprised at how many ideological debates on mda take a nose dive toward personal attacks.

          In any case...I have been on many forums for fashion but this is my first nutrition one. I like mda aside from the warfare over things that are a matter of personal choice.
          I think it's a common thing with arguments unfortunately. People start rationally and then when they are not being "heard" they get frustrated and it all quickly escalates. You see it with families all the time. Usually families are the only ones we let our guards down with that much but on the internet it's like a veil is lifted and we all see each other without formality.

          What happens on fashion forums? Is it like Pinterest. I actually never joined one related to my career. Not interested in seeing people talk shit about something I know a lot about But I currently post on a skin care one, and of course, RP.
          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

          - Ray Peat

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          • That was the weirdest thing ever. I'm speechless at the moment

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            • Haha fashion forums just talk about new and upcoming models, newest scans of various editorials, industry gossip, where to find deals, networking, etc.
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              HCLF: lean red meat, eggs, low-fat dairy, bone broth/gelatin, fruits, seafood, liver, small amount of starch (oatmeal, white rice, potatoes, carrots), small amount of saturated fat (butter/ghee/coconut/dark chocolate/cheese).

              My Journal: gelatin experiments, vanity pictures, law school rants, recipe links


              Food blog: GELATIN and BONE BROTH recipes

              " The best things in life are free and the 2nd best are expensive!" - Coco Chanel

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              • Originally posted by Graycat View Post
                That was the weirdest thing ever. I'm speechless at the moment
                Dont worry about it Gray. I understand though - I remember feeling like that when I witnessed my first nasty thread. It's not nice, but it happens! I guess in a world where people drop bombs on each other every day we've got a long way to go.

                Originally posted by turquoisepassion View Post
                Haha fashion forums just talk about new and upcoming models, newest scans of various editorials, industry gossip, where to find deals, networking, etc.
                That sounds useful actually! I just use Facebook and MDA for everything now... it's bizarre! I dont need anything else.
                "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                - Ray Peat

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                • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                  Wed, 18th Sept
                  What's the longest people have been on an internet forum before, and what was the forum? I've never been one for this long. Over the years I posted in a few spiritual ones, but I got bored of them quickly because I couldnt find answers to my questions. But at MDA that I get answers to whatever I ask about! And the answers take me to new questions.

                  For me, literally the worst thing in life is feeling trapped or stuck. I want to grow, develop, share, expand, learn, experience the magic that lies within us all. So when my life isnt moving forward... I find it agonisingly frustrating. That's the reason I'm here - I can see that this forum is making me transform in ways I wanted to transform for more than a decade. It's fuel for my inner journey. I don't know where it's going, but I know that in spite of all the darkness that crops up, there is a lot of light, and that for every bit of ignorance, there is wisdom and love.

                  Like everything in life, you take the good with the bad; the cream with the curd, and accept responsibility for your own experience.
                  I'm glad this has been such a good space for you YB

                  I've certainly been on this forum much longer than any other place. I read way more than I post though, obviously. I suppose that has a lot to do with how much I'm trying to figure out for myself in comparison to the things I do feel I've figured out and can help others with. If I ever lose this weight I'm might feel like I have more to say
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                  • Woah. I missed the flame thread you're all talking about. Sometimes they can be fun. I miss paleobird, but am in touch with her off forum. I also miss Crabbcakes, Gravyboat and a few others. People find new things to do with their time, c'est la vie. I've been here about a year and a half, I guess. Nothing is forever. The longer I stay the less dogmatic I become, no bad thing.
                    I like badgers, books and booze, more or less in that order.

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                    • Originally posted by PaleoMom View Post
                      I'm glad this has been such a good space for you YB

                      I've certainly been on this forum much longer than any other place. I read way more than I post though, obviously. I suppose that has a lot to do with how much I'm trying to figure out for myself in comparison to the things I do feel I've figured out and can help others with. If I ever lose this weight I'm might feel like I have more to say
                      You have loads to say PM! I always appreciate your words of support. Regarding the sharing of information, I think that comes from experience. There've been times when I felt I knew something, and in those times I offered a lot of advice. Right now I feel quite stripped back: like I'm relearning again, and that's mostly an internal thing, so not as much advice offered.

                      Originally posted by badgergirl View Post
                      Woah. I missed the flame thread you're all talking about. Sometimes they can be fun. I miss paleobird, but am in touch with her off forum. I also miss Crabbcakes, Gravyboat and a few others. People find new things to do with their time, c'est la vie. I've been here about a year and a half, I guess. Nothing is forever. The longer I stay the less dogmatic I become, no bad thing.
                      I think the really bad ones are horrible. I've seen a few since I've been here. But in a way, they've just helped me to accept the dark side of humanity more.

                      It sounds like this forum is a place of growth for you too then! I've definitely become less dogmatic since being here too... and weirdly: much more accepting of other people's dogma.
                      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                      - Ray Peat

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                      • Sat, 21st Sept

                        It's been a week since I started the Raw Thyroid. I take it at night and it still helps me relax, but it's not having the same exhaustion effect on me. I started tracking my waking pulse and temp about half way through the week; temp is pretty consistent but pulse has risen a lot:

                        ABout ten days ago resting pulse was 60bpm.
                        Wed: 36.4C, 67 bpm
                        Thurs: 36.5, 74bpm
                        Fri: 36.5C, 76 bpm
                        Sat: 36.4 C, 74bpm

                        I'm not noticing a difference in much, except for my BMs, which are even better than before. Sleep is still sketchy, but I'm having really vivid dreams... like everyone who eats Peat seems to! But I haven't been til now. Unforunatly many of the dreams are nightmares, which is back to my usual. It's better when I don't dream.

                        Diet
                        Planning on getting stricter. I haven't been eating enough carbs, and I think that's contributing to my poor sleep. I need to make more effort to drink the OJ, eat fruit etc. I've mostly been eating cottage cheese, milk, sugar, gelatine. Not really good enough!

                        I found an amazing cottage cheese though - it's got three times as much fat in it as the last one I was eating, but it's really good quality and more more satiating. Now instead of eating 600gs in a sitting I'm eating 200gs. So, same amount of fat but half the calories and a third of the protein. I think this is better.

                        Here are the current abs!


                        Nothing is changing in the thighs and ass, but I've actually given up. I can't beat my body into submission; I'm going to focus on lowering cortisol and getting my reproductive system working again. It's more important than having a pert ass, no matter how much I desire that
                        Last edited by YogaBare; 09-21-2013, 08:49 AM.
                        "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                        In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                        - Ray Peat

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                        • Nice ab definition you've got going, Yo!

                          I can't tell if the raw thyroid is affecting me in any way noticeable, but I'm in a better mood generally since I started taking it. So, it might be contributing to it.

                          Only if you ever feel like sharing, I'd be interested in hearing about some of your correspondence with Ray Peat.

                          I find orange juice or a cup of milk with maple syrup at bed time helping me get a good night's sleep.

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                          • Wowza YoB lookin goooooooood

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                            • Looking great YB! I don't think you need to work on your thighs either, you look very proportionate.

                              I'm currently reading this: Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox: How a Little-Known Vitamin Could Save Your Life: Kate Rheaume-Bleue: 9781118065723: Amazon.com: Books and there is a whole section on wrinkles and how vitamin k2 is a huge factor in reversing and preventing wrinkles. That made me think of you and your K2 question the other day on top of your quest to kill the wrinkles. The whole book has been interesting so far, I'm not done yet though.
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                              • Originally posted by Graycat View Post
                                Nice ab definition you've got going, Yo!

                                I can't tell if the raw thyroid is affecting me in any way noticeable, but I'm in a better mood generally since I started taking it. So, it might be contributing to it.

                                Only if you ever feel like sharing, I'd be interested in hearing about some of your correspondence with Ray Peat.

                                I find orange juice or a cup of milk with maple syrup at bed time helping me get a good night's sleep.
                                Thank you Gray I'll post my whole correspondence with Peat here. He approves of our Raw Thryoid product btw!

                                Cheers for the suggestion, but I've been doing the milk with honey and it doesn't help. I think it's an overall macro problem for me - too few carbs, and excess protein being converted to cortosil. I need to be more diligent.

                                Originally posted by moluv View Post
                                Wowza YoB lookin goooooooood
                                Thank you bella And welcome!

                                Originally posted by PaleoMom View Post
                                Looking great YB! I don't think you need to work on your thighs either, you look very proportionate.

                                I'm currently reading this: Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox: How a Little-Known Vitamin Could Save Your Life: Kate Rheaume-Bleue: 9781118065723: Amazon.com: Books and there is a whole section on wrinkles and how vitamin k2 is a huge factor in reversing and preventing wrinkles. That made me think of you and your K2 question the other day on top of your quest to kill the wrinkles. The whole book has been interesting so far, I'm not done yet though.
                                Thanks PM! Ha, maybe I look balanced because I have the same amount of excess fat everywhere Actually my rib area has gotten bigger since I started lifting, so I've lost a bit of my pear shapedness.

                                That's an interesting book! I'll try find it on pdf... thank you! Maybe it's part of what I'm missing...
                                "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                                In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                                - Ray Peat

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