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  • Ha, feels like forever since I wrote in here, but it's only been four days Don't even know if anyone's still reading, but here goes.

    Feeling very weird about food again. When I came back from Ireland I was really hungry, and had three days in a row of eating "full calorie days" (estimating 2K). This isn't exactly a problem, because I'm tall and I'm active but I found it weird that my appetite had come back. Still being 7 lbs from my goal weight meant that I was enamoured with this.

    Then on Saturday, I was seriously craving ice cream all day. I ate my three meals, then went out with some friends and got desert (chocolate mouse and ice cream), then went to the grocery store and bought 1.5 litres of ice cream and ate it all Yesterday I didn't really eat, then today I ate even more than Saturday. I had my three meals, which came to circa 2K cals, then I ate two pints of vanilla ice cream, three square dark chocolate, and 220gs goat's cheese High fat foods.

    I wouldn't mind if it had just been Saturday that I'd done this, but twice in three days scares me. I still feel like I was craving fat, but I don't know why I suddenly need to eat so much...

    Thing is, things are good in my life! So I don't even feel like I'm comfort eating. Apart from a fight with my mum, my work, love, and social life are all pretty amazing. I've been really busy, but it's been good. Not sure what to make of all this...

    Feel free to chuck a shoe at me

    ETA:

    Last night I was walking through the park and a guy asked me for directions. We got chatting and he had a camera on him, and told me he was a photographer. Long story short, he started telling me I was beautiful and asked if he could take my pic, before offering to do free portfolio yoga shots. This was a great offer, so I gave him my number.

    Today I've literally gotten 30 phone calls and text messages from him today, begging me to meet him, and making raunchy comments about yoga porn...

    I never learn.
    Last edited by YogaBare; 08-26-2013, 11:43 AM.
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    • You know how Ombat has this theory that appetite (in normal people) waxes and wanes in cycles. So maybe that's what's happening to you? Also, maybe you ate a lot today because you didn't really eat yesterday? When you don't really eat on one day, it's normal to eat a lot the next day. That's what I was doing on JUDDD.

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      • Yeah, my appetite comes and goes. I just ate like a horse yesterday after working my ass off moving my apartment on Saturday.
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        • Hey Yogabare! I've been a little MIA myself.

          I wonder if you could be getting a little deficient in the fat soluble vitamins? Maybe that's why you've been craving the fat. Or it could be that your metabolism has revved so much that you need it. Instead of carb cycling, you can do fat cycling. Hehe

          Sounds like that guy was preying on you in the park. What a creep! Years ago I worked at a lingerie store. A strange little man used to come in a ask me to model lingerie for money. He bothered me for months.

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          • I wouldn't worry about the appetite spikes. As active as you are and as diminished your appetite has been prior to that, it was bound to happen. I had one high-ish calorie day last week and then it went down back to normal. I agree that it's cyclical.

            Years ago I worked at a lingerie store. A strange little man used to come in a ask me to model lingerie for money. He bothered me for months.
            Hi Brooke When I was in my early twenties I used to work at the jewelry counter of a department store. Every once in a while a man would ask me to 'model' some piece of jewelry for them and I did comply of course. Now I'm glad I didn't work in the lingerie section of the store

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            • Originally posted by YogaBare
              By the way, I found this japanese facial massage for wrinkles The woman who created it is 63 - she looks like she's in her early 30's. Am going to start tomorrow, ha Tanaka Face Massage Part 1 (English) - YouTube
              I know this was posted months ago but I'm wondering what you thought of Tanaka and if you noticed any changes. I do it every other day and it really helps with morning puffiness.
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              • Hey guys,

                You are all the best... seriously. Thank you once again! The thing is that I really hit rock bottom in the last six months, and I'm so scared of going back to that... Particulaly now that I know what it really feels like to be happy! I feel like I've been on a high for two months now... being in love with a man is NOTHING compared to being in love with life! Just, wow.

                So when I eat so much I get scared that it's all going to go to shit... that I will start to binge again, lose my energy, put on weight etc.

                But, it seems that I was simply hungry! Because I ate a lot on Saturday, I kind of refused to eat on Sunday, even though I was still hungry. Which then led to me eating a lot yesterday. But then today, I had no appetite. I guess I needed a two day re-feed of sorts...

                I genuinely think I need to do fat refeeds

                Does anyone think that men might respond better to restrictive diets than women? I just don't think I could do less than 30gs of fat a day, like Zach is doing. (Hi Zach, if you're reading this )

                Originally posted by brooke.S. View Post
                Hey Yogabare! I've been a little MIA myself.

                I wonder if you could be getting a little deficient in the fat soluble vitamins? Maybe that's why you've been craving the fat. Or it could be that your metabolism has revved so much that you need it. Instead of carb cycling, you can do fat cycling. Hehe

                Sounds like that guy was preying on you in the park. What a creep! Years ago I worked at a lingerie store. A strange little man used to come in a ask me to model lingerie for money. He bothered me for months.
                Hey Brooke! <3 I noticed you hadn't been around. How are you doing?

                IT's so funny you say that about the fat soluble vits... yesterday I ate carrots for the first time in months!!! I got a craving, so I made Peat's salad. (Figure I'm going to start on that again - my gut feels in much better shape these days.) Then I washed it down with a ton of fatty cheese and ice cream!

                And LOL - I totally thought of the fat cycling I've been so lazy about my diet because it's too easy on Peat, but I'm going to make a bit more effort now. I reckon I need a lot of fat once in a while.

                @littlevase - I did the massage for like a week
                "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                - Ray Peat

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                • Carrots are awesome. I am going to make sure I eat them more regularly. They're a big part of the intro Specific Carbohydrate Diet. They definitely helped my digestion when pureed.
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                  • Hi!

                    I think women have a much more delicate hormonal balance and any sort of restriction whether it be a macro or calories, will trigger a stress hormone cascade. The binge/restrict cycle is something that is so common with women is a perfect example of how easily it is to throw their systems out of wack. It doesnt help that women are under much more pressure then men to look a certain way that may not even be a reality for some womens bodies so they end up on a never ending lifestyle of stress and restricting. Im sure most of you ladies here know this already but a lifetime of this behavior is so damaging that it takes a long time to heal physically and mentally sometimes it might not be possible to move away from that way of thinking because its so ingrained.

                    Anywho, Yo, you should know by now that a few days of overeating wont negate all the positive things you have experienced the past few weeks. Its probably just what you need.

                    Btw im only under 30g of fat a few days a week. Other days its closer to 60-90.
                    Last edited by Zach; 08-27-2013, 12:38 PM.

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                    • Hehe....a week! I really like it and it feels so great. No one has commented on my face or noticed any changes though. I had furrow lines between my eyes and they're completely gone though, so that was cool.

                      I'm happy that you're happy! Why are you happy? I feel happy too. I've been taking vitex and have been using progesterone cream and feel like a new (or....old!) person. I feel like my old self. I'm also taking ashwagandha, astragalus, and rhodiola. Between my mood and my hormones I just feel like everything's where it should be balance-wise.
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                      • Re the restrictive diets--I think it varies by person. I'm starting a low fat diet, with fat refeeds from time to time, I guess. Only cuz I have to let myself eat something yummy every once in a while, or else life just isn't worth living.

                        I thought about what ChocoTaco said in one of the other threads about not mixing carbs and fat, and then I thought about how the only macro I can really cut back on is fat. So cutting fat it is. Not to 30 g per day though. That's ridiculous. You won't be able to eat most meats at that level of fat. And I know Zach just lives off gelatin and low-fat milk. I can't do that. I need actual meat, especially since I don't eat dairy.

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                        • Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                          Carrots are awesome. I am going to make sure I eat them more regularly. They're a big part of the intro Specific Carbohydrate Diet. They definitely helped my digestion when pureed.
                          I agree that carrots are awesome! Just not so awesome when you have ISB-D I think the break from raw veggies has done my gut the world of good though. It feels right to start the carrot salad now.

                          PS. I googled "Carrots are awesome", and this is what I got...



                          Originally posted by Zach View Post
                          Hi!

                          I think women have a much more delicate hormonal balance and any sort of restriction whether it be a macro or calories, will trigger a stress hormone cascade. The binge/restrict cycle is something that is so common with women is a perfect example of how easily it is to throw their systems out of wack. It doesnt help that women are under much more pressure then men to look a certain way that may not even be a reality for some womens bodies so they end up on a never ending lifestyle of stress and restricting. Im sure most of you ladies here know this already but a lifetime of this behavior is so damaging that it takes a long time to heal physically and mentally sometimes it might not be possible to move away from that way of thinking because its so ingrained.

                          Anywho, Yo, you should know by now that a few days of overeating wont negate all the positive things you have experienced the past few weeks. Its probably just what you need.

                          Btw im only under 30g of fat a few days a week. Other days its closer to 60-90.
                          Speak of the devil Thanks for the feedback Z! Yeah, I'm learning that now. It's happened a few times in the last two months that I've needed to eat a lot, and generally I've embraced it, but I got freaked when it happened twice in three days. Just need to keep listening to the bod.

                          How often do you deviate from your diet?

                          Originally posted by little vase View Post
                          Hehe....a week! I really like it and it feels so great. No one has commented on my face or noticed any changes though. I had furrow lines between my eyes and they're completely gone though, so that was cool.

                          I'm happy that you're happy! Why are you happy? I feel happy too. I've been taking vitex and have been using progesterone cream and feel like a new (or....old!) person. I feel like my old self. I'm also taking ashwagandha, astragalus, and rhodiola. Between my mood and my hormones I just feel like everything's where it should be balance-wise.
                          I must try it again! I liked how it felt. Thats funny LV - I've basically starting doing the same thing as you! Vitex and progesterone. I have oestrogen dominance, and these two things, plus eating Peat, have changed my life! It's like day and night. And I totally know what you mean - I feel like I'm finally the person I've always known I was inside. It's beautiful thing Deligthed to hear you're feeling good too!

                          Originally posted by diene View Post
                          Re the restrictive diets--I think it varies by person. I'm starting a low fat diet, with fat refeeds from time to time, I guess. Only cuz I have to let myself eat something yummy every once in a while, or else life just isn't worth living.

                          I thought about what ChocoTaco said in one of the other threads about not mixing carbs and fat, and then I thought about how the only macro I can really cut back on is fat. So cutting fat it is. Not to 30 g per day though. That's ridiculous. You won't be able to eat most meats at that level of fat. And I know Zach just lives off gelatin and low-fat milk. I can't do that. I need actual meat, especially since I don't eat dairy.
                          I'm hitting 40g most days, but that's eating cottage cheese as a major protein source, and then eating a lot of shell fish. Mayeb you could eat more shell fish and white fish in favour of other meats? That's an easy way to cut the fat intake.
                          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                          - Ray Peat

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                          • What shellfish are you eating? I don't really know how to cook shell fish--never done it before. Yeah, I'm going to start eating more white fish. Unfortunately for me, my favorite fish is salmon, which is apparently a fatty fish.

                            But I'm trying not to be too insane, you know. I'm going to focus on eating fruits, veggies, potatoes, and lean cuts of meat. And not worry too much about the intramuscular fat in lamb or liver or lamb liver, mmmm. I've also gone back to weighing every single bite of food, as of today.

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                            • I dont deviate from my diet because i dont really have a strict diet. I have some general rules that i follow is all.

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                              • Women hold more fat so they need more fat for hormone production. I'm fine with <5% and sometimes I get no fat at all(all sugar, gelatin, skim milk) and run off mead acid.
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