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    So I started a blog to track my progress, post recipes, and talk about studies (I do like picking through them and finding out what they actually determined, basic issues with the methodology, etc... which is how I ended up here), and I called it "Cocoa's Corner." I posted in the introduction section a few times a while back, but I hadn't posted outside of there. I wanted to actually start eating more primally before I posted here again. Basically, I wanted this to be my first post outside of that section.

    I'm not going to repeat a whole lot of what I post on my blog here, nor will I repeat a whole lot of what I post here on my blog. Instead, I'll summarize the significant portions:

    I'm always shocked when I see pictures of when I was very young, because I was very skinny. I have, however, been fat for as long as I can remember. There have been some gaps in my weight gain (most significantly when I was homeless... possibly the only time I actually lost weight), but for the most part, it's been steadily on the rise. Well, about a year and a half ago, I started getting obsessed with nutrition in a way that only an autistic could. I had tried to lose weight in a number of ways (including combinations of ways) and nothing had worked, but this obsession with nutrition was a blinding flash of enlightenment (I shouldn't misuse that term, but oh well). Before I had come to this site, I had come to much the same conclusions (for the most part) that are found here. I did find a lot of information which I did not previously obtain, however, and primal is a very good plan (I especially like the emphasis self-experimentation).

    That said, I will not be going fully primal... not right away, anyway. I just can't afford it. I will be going grain- and sugar-free, using grass-fed meat products (not dairy or egg just yet for reasons into which I will not go), using animal fats instead of oils (except for olive oil for salads), cutting out processed foods (including using unfiltered honey), and eating more meat (though still not an ideal amount) and veggies. And, because of weight issues, I will be cutting back on carbohydrate intake (no starches, just fruits, nuts, veggies, a tiny bit of honey, and a bit of milk).

    Speaking of those weight concerns, I bet you're wondering how much I weigh. Well, I was skimming through some other journals, and you better get ready for a doozy: My total weight is 435.8 lbs with 47.4% body fat and 31.6% muscle (I... I like to walk). My mother is rather better off in the weight department, with a total weight of 319.9 lbs, 48.7 BFP, and 26.9% muscle mass. I also seem to have rather high blood pressure (borderline hypertension), according to the machine I used (which seems to be fairly accurate). Oh, right. Did I mention that my mother was doing this with me? Well, she is. She's also 61 (edit: Because I forgot to mention it before, I'm 26), so you can understand that I really want this to work for her (thanks to my research, I am confident that it will).

    Now, I will be tracking my progress in a number of ways (those measurements are just a few ways I'll be tracking my progress), but as I will be exercising, practicing Tai Chi Chuan (though technically exercising, it also has other benefits to it), and some other things, I can't say from a scientific point of view whether or not the diet had a positive impact on me. That doesn't mean that I doubt its efficacy (research is a beautiful thing), just that I really can't claim that it's 100% because of the diet.

    I think that's it, really.

    Also, beware: If you enter these gates, I may very well accidentally try to convert you to Taoism or into a brony. It happens, you know?

    Oh, right. I'm fairly sure the link is in my signature, but I'll provide a link to my blog here:

    Cocoa's Corner (Do you like the Autumn theme?)
    Last edited by CocoaNut; 10-10-2012, 06:36 AM.
    See my progress at Cocoa's Corner.

    Or check out my journal thread here.

    If I accidently make you a brony or convert you to Taoism, well... you shouldn't have talked to me if you didn't want that to happen.

  • #2
    So... I was reminded to post this topic by something that happened today.

    Let me tell you: Keto-adaptation sucks.

    Today, I had such a terrible headache, troubles concentrating, nausea, and some small loss of energy. Since dinner (about 2 1/2 hours ago), I haven't felt it, but I feel like it's on the edge of coming back.

    Oh, and for dinner, I had a taco bowl (grass-fed ground beef mixed with all sorts of flavorings, an onion, and some garlic with a bit of cheese, lots of leaf lettuce, and some tomato on top... it's sooooooooooooooo good).
    See my progress at Cocoa's Corner.

    Or check out my journal thread here.

    If I accidently make you a brony or convert you to Taoism, well... you shouldn't have talked to me if you didn't want that to happen.

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    • #3
      Welcome to the Primal life. Thankfully the ill feelings get less and less as your body switches over and they go away within a week or two.
      “There are only two options regarding commitment, You’re either in or your out. There’s no such thing as life in between.” – Anonymous

      "Das Beste oder nichts" - Gottlieb Wilhelm Daimler

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Primal Primate View Post
        Welcome to the Primal life. Thankfully the ill feelings get less and less as your body switches over and they go away within a week or two.
        Thanks for the welcome!

        My symptoms haven't been so bad this morning. I had reduced my carbohydrate intake for a few months prior to this, but not nearly to this low level, so whether it's because of that (I'm hoping that's the case) or because it's the morning, and now because I just eat breakfast, I don't know. I do have a bit of a headache and nausea, but it's not like it was yesterday is all.

        I like your signature. Obsessed is not the term that autistics use amongst ourselves. Most autistics I've met tend to prefer to call them special interests, but obsessed is a more familiar term for most people. You have no idea how hard I've worked to convince people that the second is true (though I've never heard that quote before).

        Updating the journal:

        I really need to figure out a way to cut back on the almond flour that this recipe uses (I think the best way would be using coconut flour). My breakfast biscuits (not an everyday thing) had a grand total of 1 1/4 cups of almond flour for four (two each for my mother and me). I know almonds are nice*, but that amount can't be good. I'm thinking that replacing some with coconut flour might be a better idea. Any ideas on that? I'm thinking that it would be 1/2 cup of almond flour and 1/4 cup of coconut flour would be good. That seems to be the conversion of almond flour:coconut flour. I guess I'll have to see about the flavor, but I don't think it should be a problem.

        I used to post on forums with this kind of setup, but recently, I've only been posting on a chan-type forum. Adjusting to not using a different image for each post is quite... strange.

        *Edit: In amounts that aren't excessive.
        Last edited by CocoaNut; 10-07-2012, 10:17 AM.
        See my progress at Cocoa's Corner.

        Or check out my journal thread here.

        If I accidently make you a brony or convert you to Taoism, well... you shouldn't have talked to me if you didn't want that to happen.

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        • #5
          First attempt at almond flour biscuit crust pizza was... not exactly a wondrous success. My mother liked it, but I found the flavors in the pizza sauce to be too... I don't even know how to describe them. This is largely my fault. I didn't figure the difference in using fresh tomatoes vs. canned properly and I didn't start on it until far too late, so I ended up with a mediocre batch. That said, I will be using a different recipe next time, one that actually calls for fresh roma tomatoes and foregoes the carrots and celery (it's just the tomatoes, onion, olive oil, herbs, and salt).

          And, this time, I'll remember to add the beef stock (I... kind of forgot last time).

          The almond flour biscuit crust could use some work as well, but it should be fine next week.

          Oh, and I need to help my mother understand what "processed food" means. It was her job to pick up the cheese and she went ahead and got pre-shredded mozzarella and provolone.

          That ingredient list was... not pleasant.
          See my progress at Cocoa's Corner.

          Or check out my journal thread here.

          If I accidently make you a brony or convert you to Taoism, well... you shouldn't have talked to me if you didn't want that to happen.

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          • #6
            >Extremely tired at 12 AM, when my schedule says I'm supposed to go to bed.
            >Stay up till 3 AM.

            MAKES SENSE TO ME!

            To be fair, I was actually working on schoolwork until 12 AM and then had to get everything else I needed to do that day done after that. Of course, that just underscores the importance of sticking to my schedule (had I done so, I would have easily finished all my schoolwork).

            Well, anyway, this morning I had pseudo-crepes. Pseudo-crepes because, let's face it, those crepes were way too thick to be crepes. They were more like... scrambled eggs with a bit of coconut flour. I'll be making them soon again and I think I'll do a little better. Additionally, I'm going to make an altered version of the berry crumble (tomorrow, I think) recipe found in Primal Blueprint Quick and Easy Meals and reserve some of the berries to spread in the crepes.

            That's the plan, anyway. I guess we'll see how it goes.

            I have so many ideas for these crepes, you don't even know.
            See my progress at Cocoa's Corner.

            Or check out my journal thread here.

            If I accidently make you a brony or convert you to Taoism, well... you shouldn't have talked to me if you didn't want that to happen.

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            • #7
              I forgot images have to be approved




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              • #8


                Just thought I'd share. Listening to the music of a Xiao flute while I eat taco-seasoned meat.

                And that is a truly American dinner.
                See my progress at Cocoa's Corner.

                Or check out my journal thread here.

                If I accidently make you a brony or convert you to Taoism, well... you shouldn't have talked to me if you didn't want that to happen.

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                • #9
                  So I finally figured out why you don't find boneless thighs or boneless drumstick meat (aside from the fact that people love to eat drumsticks as drumsticks).

                  Removing those meats from the bone is hard.

                  And, to make matters worse, I lack any sort of decent cutting knife.

                  So for this week and next, my mom and I will be eating dark and white meat for our chicken salads. After that, though, it will just be the breast and I will boil the rest of the meat with the rest of the stock things (reserving it for a soup to be made with the stock).

                  But this chicken. Oh my goodness, this chicken. I think this was the first time I ate chicken that wasn't fed exclusively grains, soy, and things like that.

                  It was so delicious.

                  Oh, and I'm making the stock tonight, which means that I'll be going to bed... VERY late. Again.

                  I also bought some buttermilk at the store because my plans to make ranch dressing from mayonnaise (I found a recipe that called for mayonnaise and no sour cream or buttermilk) kind of fell through when I ended up with... well, a miniscule amount of fat from the nitrate-free bacon (REAL nitrate-free bacon, not the stuff that says it is but has celery juice extract) compared to what I need. Well, it didn't fall through so much as it will be delayed.

                  So I guess I'm in a transitional period. I will be for the next three to four months at least.

                  Still, I've removed a lot of unhealthy things from my diet and added in a lot of healthier things. I tested by blood pressure today and my systolic has gone down by 10 (insert whatever measure they use) since Thursday. I think that part of that is due to testing variance, but that's still pretty amazing.
                  See my progress at Cocoa's Corner.

                  Or check out my journal thread here.

                  If I accidently make you a brony or convert you to Taoism, well... you shouldn't have talked to me if you didn't want that to happen.

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                  • #10
                    That chicken stock took so long. I took a couple naps while it was cooking, but I still only got about an hour and a half of sleep last night. By the time it was done, it was time for breakfast, so I made crepes again, with a few slight alterations.

                    Oh.
                    My.
                    Goodness.

                    I want to eat nothing but crepes for the rest of my life. They are so delicious.

                    Okay, I want to go on a rant about how awesome they are, but I won't. After that, I finally went to bed and woke up at 4 PM (that's sure to help my schedule issues!). So... I missed lunch. Afterwards, had chicken and dumplings (the dumplings didn't turn out so well). It was delicious.
                    See my progress at Cocoa's Corner.

                    Or check out my journal thread here.

                    If I accidently make you a brony or convert you to Taoism, well... you shouldn't have talked to me if you didn't want that to happen.

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                    • #11
                      I finally proved that there was something to my name by making chocolate pancakes this morning.

                      I burned them a bit, though. Turns out that the cooking process needs to be a lot more gentle than I figured. They were still good, but I think I preferred the egg and sausage. I'll do better next time, I think.

                      Last night, I felt some pain in my gut. It could have been the fact that I was up late or it could be the low carb flu wanting to mess with me some more.

                      Oh, and I had another nap today and skipped lunch again. I'll be snacking on a couple hard boiled eggs, but these past two days have been rather light on veggies as compared to my goal. I think I should be fine, though. As long as I don't do it again.
                      See my progress at Cocoa's Corner.

                      Or check out my journal thread here.

                      If I accidently make you a brony or convert you to Taoism, well... you shouldn't have talked to me if you didn't want that to happen.

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                      • #12
                        It's not officially on Cocoa's Corner yet, but I had to share this somewhere:

                        I weighed myself today.

                        I lost five fat pounds this past week. I did lose 1.6 lbs of lean body mass, but I know that's because I haven't been getting enough protein. Like I said, I'm hoping to fix that soon. We'll see how it goes.

                        My mother had similar, but smaller, results (she lost a somewhat larger percentage of weight as lean body mass than I did, which worries me, but she still has quite a bit of lean body mass).
                        See my progress at Cocoa's Corner.

                        Or check out my journal thread here.

                        If I accidently make you a brony or convert you to Taoism, well... you shouldn't have talked to me if you didn't want that to happen.

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                        • #13
                          My reaction speed test didn't go so well. I expected as much, but I was feeling fairly okay.

                          To be fair, my sleep schedule has also been bungled a bit, and I was quite tired, so that's another possible cause aside from the low carb flu (which seems to be near or at its end).

                          I received a message from the cholesterol test strip company. They'll be sending out some test strips for free, so that's pretty nifty. They're still not sure how it happened (they can't get past user error, and I understand why), but they're willing to send some strips anyway, which I think is pretty cool.
                          See my progress at Cocoa's Corner.

                          Or check out my journal thread here.

                          If I accidently make you a brony or convert you to Taoism, well... you shouldn't have talked to me if you didn't want that to happen.

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                          • #14
                            Hi and Welcome!

                            Some random thoughts...

                            Sleep. It's really important to weight loss and health and happiness. I know it's hard to fit everything into a busy life but see if you can keep to a regular schedule, even if the amount of sleep isn't ideal, getting it at regular times is beneficial and your body will adapt to the schedule, given a chance. I had the same problem, up late, work or school in the morning, some nights not sleeping at all. But when I got serious I threw away my television set and now I go to bed at 9:30 and wake up at 5:30. It's been a good thing, since 1997.

                            The other thing that stands out is that in beginning eating Primally, lots of people try to replicate foods that they like with Primal substitutes, muffins, pizza, etc. using nut flours and other concoctions. I can't help feeling that this isn't the best approach. Not because they are poor substitutes as far as taste goes. But because people cling to types of foods that are not good for them instead of seeking out healthful foods.

                            I loved pizza. I ate it several times a week all of my life. I suppose I could make some sort of approximation that might fill the space where pizza lives in my list of yummy foods, but what I've tried has been pretty awful. It's better for me just not to eat it at all. Somewhere in the back of my mind when I see or smell pizza, I think "poison." It's the same with bread, muffins, cereal and pastry. It's taken time, but it's happening. If I were to try to make primal substitutes for these foods, I think it would be harder to let them go, and it would be easier to backslide into eating the non-Primal versions.

                            There's plenty of other things to eat, I do a lot of stir fry and it's easy to incorporate different favors that satisfy the desire for Italian or Mexican foods simply by adding spices to healthier base dishes.

                            Good luck on your plan. It's great that you're bringing your Mom along. I wish this had been a thing back when my Mom was alive.

                            David
                            Last edited by DCarr10760; 10-13-2012, 05:54 AM.
                            Height: 5' 10"
                            Highest Weight: 292
                            Recent Starting Weight 287
                            Current weight: 244.0
                            Goal weight: 195
                            Body Fat 32.5%

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                            • #15
                              Hi, Cocoa, reading through this thread for the first time. Gotta agree with DCarr; you can drive yourself nuts (and gain weight!) trying to duplicate the texture and taste of pizza/bread/pancakes/whatever. Better to just start with healthy, portion-appropriate ingredients.

                              At the beginning you said you weren't eating eggs, but I guess that was just temporary and you're eating them now? Good decision. For taste, versatility, nutrition and value, it's hard to beat eggs.

                              Anyway, my suggestion is to totally blow off pancakes and go with a nice pumpkin souffle. I don't measure, but I throw the following into a small mixing bowl: Couple of eggs, couple of giant blobs of canned pumpkin, handful of shredded coconut and a big blob of half-n-half. (I also use Stevia for sweetener; you can use sweetener of choice or none at all.) Oh, and some cinnamon. Then I grease up a microwave-safe bowl, pour in the mixture, nuke it for a minute, mix it, nuke it for another minute. If you're anti-microwave, this could be cooked in some alternate manner.

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