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  • You could be right..... but it's hard to want to eat more when you know you already weigh too much..... I cringe just about every time I go to eat.
    Start Date 9.24.12
    Starting weight 285ish ( scale is acting funny so I don't trust it, but 285 is close )
    CW - 271 pounds
    First Goal - 255 by 2013
    Main Goal - To be healthy for my family... I have an awesome family.
    Other Goal - to get off some medications
    Final goal - to get to about 180 pounds by 2014
    NEW GOAL - When I can start a new journal called "Your dad is not so fat!"

    Your Dad is So Fat

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    • Are you taking any vitamins and supplements? In addition to possibly eating too few calories, you might be missing something your body is craving(as in needs, not crazy-sugar-crack-craving). Are you keeping your variety up, or falling into a rut and having the same things frequently because you know they work?

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      • When I was in high school, a lot of kids didn't get cell phones until 16 or so. I know some people who waited until college to get them. Now, it seems like 13 or younger is pretty normal. I think starting off with a basic call/text phone is a good idea. None of us really need a smartphone, however convenient some of the apps might be. If it comes down to it, I will get rid of my smartphone to save costs, as long as I can find a phone with an OK camera.
        Depression Lies

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        • Originally posted by Sabine View Post
          Are you taking any vitamins and supplements? In addition to possibly eating too few calories, you might be missing something your body is craving(as in needs, not crazy-sugar-crack-craving). Are you keeping your variety up, or falling into a rut and having the same things frequently because you know they work?
          I don't take any supplements except the occasional whey protein shake and fish oil.

          My variety is up but I do eat lots of chicken...... Over that last week I have eaten:

          Pork ribs
          Chicken - 2 ways
          Rib-eye
          Tilapia

          I eat salad a few days a week, up to 5 days. I eat veggies, with spinach and peppers being the ones I eat most. And in a week I might eat 2 pcs of fruit, usually pears or apples, but occasionally a banana.

          I avoid potatoes, but not 100%. And I have been trying things that I have always hated.... zuchinni, brussel sprouts, and sweet potatoes ( still hate those 3, LOL, and will not be eating again )
          Start Date 9.24.12
          Starting weight 285ish ( scale is acting funny so I don't trust it, but 285 is close )
          CW - 271 pounds
          First Goal - 255 by 2013
          Main Goal - To be healthy for my family... I have an awesome family.
          Other Goal - to get off some medications
          Final goal - to get to about 180 pounds by 2014
          NEW GOAL - When I can start a new journal called "Your dad is not so fat!"

          Your Dad is So Fat

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          • Then, if you want my two cents, I would suggest those two things: up your veggie variety, and consider eating more calories in general. There are plenty of sneaky ways to get more of vegetables(even ones you don't like) into your diet.

            My favorites(although I love most veges) are sauteing a fine dice of various vegetables and making quiche or egg cups, pureeing same and adding to soup, dehydrating them and using them as chips to convey guacamole to your mouth(what's not to like?)

            Also, I have noticed that if I make a meal warm and wet, it is more satisfying to me. Some people need a crunch. Don't discount what your BRAIN needs to feel satisfied, in addition to your stomach.

            Hope you figure out what works for you, PrimalPapa. It is no fun being hungry.

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            • Whoops, double post.

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              • Consume more calories per meal. Cutting by 1000 is pretty dramatic, to be honest - even if you are "so overweight". You won't make the pounds fall off faster by cutting faster. It sounds intuitive, but it doesn't work that way.

                Eat more veggies too.

                Don't worry so much about calories overall. Just pick good quality foods. Eat when you're hungry. Eat til you're full. It really doesn't get any easier than that. I did that, plus walking 45 min 5x per week, and I lost 35 lbs effortlessly. Literally, it was effortless.
                Primal since March 5, 2012
                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                • I have also found that fat and protein provide satiety.
                  Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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                  • Eat more meat or maybe add more fats to your diet. If you're hungry - EAT! This lifestyle isn't about starving.

                    Originally posted by Primal Papa View Post
                    I have to bring something up... again, I have put on some pounds overnight.... I lost them before, but it took about 2 weeks... I have no idea why this happens.... I seem to be pretty hungry while eating this way. I am, for sure, eating less food, and less calories...

                    I was at Olive Garden yesterday for lunch, and I actually told them to keep the bread sticks in the kitchen. And I just had salad, and took out all the croutons ( my favorite part ).....

                    I haven't eaten any pasta. I watch my family eat bread, but I don't - not easy, trust me. There are days when all I want is a peanut butter sandwich on white bread with a glass of milk..... but I haven't done that.... And trust me, that is HUGE for me. Prior to PB, I could eat up to 3 PB sandwiches a day, and consume 16 or more ounces of milk a day PLUS still eat 3 meals with
                    second helpings at dinner. And I ate lots of cheese.

                    So now, several weeks in, I wonder why I am so hungry. I am eating 2000 - 2500 calories a day. The calories I eat now are quality calories, so I shouldn't need as many. I used to eat 3000 - 3500 a day and maintain my weight, so how come I cut about 1000 calories a day, and I have so many plateaus?

                    And WHY AM I HUNGRY so often?

                    I do get my veggies, some fruit, and I have started working out at the YMCA about 3x a week.
                    Health is Wealth!

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                    • Originally posted by honeybuns View Post
                      I have also found that fat and protein provide satiety.
                      Oh, I agree.... but I have also found that the more fat I actually eat - especially in meat - the less I like it.

                      Not making excuses. Just a fact. I'm not wavering. But I would like better results.
                      Start Date 9.24.12
                      Starting weight 285ish ( scale is acting funny so I don't trust it, but 285 is close )
                      CW - 271 pounds
                      First Goal - 255 by 2013
                      Main Goal - To be healthy for my family... I have an awesome family.
                      Other Goal - to get off some medications
                      Final goal - to get to about 180 pounds by 2014
                      NEW GOAL - When I can start a new journal called "Your dad is not so fat!"

                      Your Dad is So Fat

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                      • Originally posted by Primal Papa View Post
                        Oh, I agree.... but I have also found that the more fat I actually eat - especially in meat - the less I like it.

                        Not making excuses. Just a fact. I'm not wavering. But I would like better results.
                        It doesn't have to be fat in meat. It can be a handful of macadamia nuts, or extra olive oil on your salad, or avocados... (or just spoonfuls of delicious coconut butter - but *ahem* nobody does that, right? Most certainly not me...)
                        ~Jen~

                        OSW (1/6/12) - 230
                        PSW (9/10/12) - 224
                        CW (12/5/12) - 208
                        GW - 160

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                        • So, back to that girl who gets left home every weekend....

                          She was out tonight with my wife and my kids at a craft fair... She is off from school all next week for Thanksgiving. She will be off tomorrow because her parents are sending her on a cruise, with friends of theirs. The girl told my wife that she doesn't want to go, but her parents are making her go. She also told my wife she is not happy about being with people for a week that she doesn't even know at all.

                          So where will her parents be, or why are they sending her away for a week with people she doesn't even know ( though the family does have a girl her age ) ?..... Well, they are going to Georgia to golf for the week.

                          It just isn't right.
                          Start Date 9.24.12
                          Starting weight 285ish ( scale is acting funny so I don't trust it, but 285 is close )
                          CW - 271 pounds
                          First Goal - 255 by 2013
                          Main Goal - To be healthy for my family... I have an awesome family.
                          Other Goal - to get off some medications
                          Final goal - to get to about 180 pounds by 2014
                          NEW GOAL - When I can start a new journal called "Your dad is not so fat!"

                          Your Dad is So Fat

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                          • Primal Papa, you may have to experiment a bit with what you eat to find what works best for you. And give each experiment at least 3-4 weeks to see how it goes.

                            A lot of people say "eat more fat", but that doesn't work for all of us. I tried Paleobird's "eat moar fat" protocol, and I GAINED weight at 300 calories under my normal maintenance calorie level. More fat does NOT work for me. I tracked every calorie, weighed/measured every bite, monitored my fat/protein/carb levels very closely... and more carbs, less fat works better for me.

                            I'm not saying "eat less fat"; I'm just saying that things might work differently for you. I've read that some people have a hard time when they eat even small amounts of fruit; others can't lose weight if they include dairy.

                            And you might also want to have your thyroid levels checked, if you haven't already (I've been awake for 24 hours so my brain isn't in top gear at the moment... I don't remember if you've mentioned this).

                            The human body and metabolism is a strange and mysterious thing, and one size definitely does NOT fit all!

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                            • TY Goldie... yes, my thyroid was checked about 4 - 5 months ago.... came back normal.

                              I really think I am one of those people who need to do LOTS of exercise to lose weight, more than diet. Every time in my life whan I have lost significant weight, I have also worked out like a mad man.... But I did that before I had my heart attack, and before I was found to have diabetes. I am sure I can't reach that level these days.

                              Typically back then, it was about 10 hours a week at the gym, PLUS 100 - 125 miles a week of biking at 12 MPH on a flat river trail. And then sometimes ALSO working out at home by hitting a heavy bag. Even then, with watching my diet, it took a year to lose 75 pounds. And I really didn't gain much muscle, because I didn't lift weights... it was all cardio for the most part.
                              Start Date 9.24.12
                              Starting weight 285ish ( scale is acting funny so I don't trust it, but 285 is close )
                              CW - 271 pounds
                              First Goal - 255 by 2013
                              Main Goal - To be healthy for my family... I have an awesome family.
                              Other Goal - to get off some medications
                              Final goal - to get to about 180 pounds by 2014
                              NEW GOAL - When I can start a new journal called "Your dad is not so fat!"

                              Your Dad is So Fat

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                              • This what I've found that seems to work for me thus far. Fat is good, so are potatoes. I can still have a real Coke now and again and it doesn't hurt me. Fruit, I can take it or leave it, but prefer to leave it. Yesterday, I made a quasi bulletproof coffee. I used coconut oil and flavored coconut milk and it was delish! I eat a ton of chicken thighs and I love bacon. I'm actually thinking of making up a bunch of bacon this weekend and putting it in ziplock bags to keep in the fridge. Lifting weights and cardio are good for me(I just need to stop being so damn lazy).

                                That girl you are talking about is going to end up not wanting to have a relationship with her father when she's an adult. I feel like she's already looking at years of therapy already. Poor girl.
                                Georgette

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