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  • #76
    Hi freedom, I would try to eat a small breakfast. For me regular meals are key.
    Primal since 9/24/2010
    "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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    • #77
      I do best if I just try to figure out why it happened, and then move on like it never happened. You can't undo it with anything you do today, you can just learn from it. Doing extra to work it off feels like punishment and what you likely need is nurturing not punishment. So do something good for yourself and let it go.
      Chris
      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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      My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by freedom.please View Post
        Things were going decently well, a few minor slip ups here and there but nothing to have a big impact.

        Today was a very busy day and I did not have time to eat regular meals. I managed to pick up a small bag of beef jerky for breakfast and some cottage cheese for lunch. I was really on the go. Dinner came and I made an awesome pork chop and had some left over potato leek soup plus a side salad

        ---Then it all went wrong, from ice cream to popcorn to oatmeal and bagels.... I regret that they were even in my kitchen
        --- I figured up I ate about 3,500 cals today total ... not the worst one ever

        I am not really sure what I am suppose to do when tomorrow comes. I probably will not be hungry in the A.M. Should I eat regularly or try to do a little extra to work it off?

        It is really disappointing as I felt so amazing yesterday, I ate well and got some fantastic exercise! I felt at peace with my body. I don't know what went wrong today...
        Don't beat yourself up. This is all a process. Next time you will have more good days in between the bad ones and even more the next time...

        If you typically eat regular meals, then eat a small breakfast at the time you normally eat breakfast. Don't try to restrict yourself out of punishment. If you aren't hungry, make it super small. For me, I would fast, but I fast every morning (I don't eat breakfast; never really have). Probably best to stick to your routine but just eat a bit less.

        The goal is intuitive eating. Eating when you are hungry and recognizing when you are not hungry. Why we binge, especially when we are feeling GOOD, is beyond me! I do the same.
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        Start date: 7-5-12
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        GOAL: to live to be a healthy and active 100


        "In health there is freedom. Health is the first of all liberties."
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        • #79
          Tonight I inhaled take home Chinese food (large serving) and a whole pint of ice cream. Fail. a solid 3500 cal. today

          I thought of this thread and how you have all helped before. Things have been going decent, just a long day at work and bad choices this evening. - still working on intuitive eating, not being compulsive, avoiding trigger foods, ect.

          I was surprised to see no one has posted on the wall for a while. Hope this means every one is doing well!
          "Never regret. If it's good, its wonderful. If it's bad its experience"
          -Victoria Hold
          F/Age 23 height 5' 3"
          HW 134
          CW 126
          GW 120

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          • #80
            Hey Freedom,

            In the last month, I have started eating High Fat, Moderate Protein, Low Carb. (The Eat Moar Fat Protocol) I have not had 1 binge in the 2 weeks since I went all in.

            Come Join us if you are interested.

            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread73597.html
            Primal since 9/24/2010
            "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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            MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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            • #81
              Hi everyone, I am reviving this thread to finally report some success. In the last year, I have tried many different combinations of macros to try to stop the BED I had some success on Whole 30 and ketgogenic eating as well, but I always binged during PMS week. On both of those plans, my record was about three weeks, but every day was a struggle.

              Last month I decided to really give the Leptin Diet a try. I have taken ideas from both of the well known programs. I decided to get 65-75 grams of protein for breakfast within an hour of waking. (50+ recommended) I get half of that in real food, and the other half in whey protein. I eat 3 meals, no snacks and finish eating by 6 pm. Thereby putting 12 hours between dinner and breakfast. I have chosen to eat 75 to 100 grams of carb a day to keep my hormones as balanced as possible. (50 or below recommended.)

              I am past the three week mark without a binge. I have had zero binge urge even though It is nearly that time of the month. My mood is much more stable than in past PMS weeks. My energy level is good and I have none of the hormonal brain fog that is my normal.

              I'm not saying that I will never binge again, but this is certainly better than where I was before.
              Primal since 9/24/2010
              "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

              Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools
              MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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              • #82
                Pebbles, that's great. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

                I know about Kruse, but could you link to the other one?

                Thanks.
                "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                B*tch-lite

                Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                • #83
                  Great Idea Joanie. I'll link both programs here.

                  Leptin Reset Easy Start Guide

                  Jack is an interesting man. If you can get past his ego and cult like following, there is good science there.

                  The Five Rules of The Leptin Diet | Weight Loss News

                  Richards is much less specific about protein and carb levels. There may be more in his book.
                  Primal since 9/24/2010
                  "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

                  Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools
                  MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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                  • #84
                    Thanks Pebbles. My interest is about wanting a bit more energy. Also, the whole hippie factor of wanting to be in tune with Big Mama earth. Sleeping a bit better wouldn't suck either, though I wonder if one is really in tune with Circadian rhythms, wouldn't one sleep more in winter and less in summer?

                    Leptin reset is a good place to start I think.
                    "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                    B*tch-lite

                    Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                    • #85
                      Oops. Sorry to post after myself, but I also wonder if we don't mess with our systems by changing the clocks twice a year. IOW I wonder if the focus shouldn't be on sunrise and sunset rather than on the clock time of when we wake up and go to bed.

                      Just thinking out loud because this interests me.
                      "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                      B*tch-lite

                      Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                      • #86
                        Sleep has definitely improved for me since I started this protocol.
                        Primal since 9/24/2010
                        "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                        MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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                        • #87
                          I didn't even catch that this was an old thread until page 9

                          I just wanted to chime in with a totally unexpected change that has helped me I know there are some people on here that are anti-Peat but... none the less. I have struggled with binge eating for a loooooooooong time. Real binge eating - like 2000-3000 calorie binges. For the longest time I thought sugar was my trigger. I thought sugar in the morning was the.best.way.ever to guarantee a binge later in the day. And then I tried Peat. I'm still mostly primal - I don't add sugar to my orange juice or things like that. I eat ~300 grams of carbs a day and am going to start cutting back a bit because I do find I'm satiated better with more fat. But here is the thing I never expected. Eating A LOT of fruit has greatly diminished my binge urges. I never realized how many binges started with "I just want a small handful of raisins" and deteriorate into "this package of Oreos looks good". I think that giving myself the OK to eat fruit has been hugely important in not bingeing. And I haven't in 2 months. I've had a few days where 1 lb of grapes turned into 2 and a few too many high quality chocolate bars here and there but I have not had a singe binge food in 2 months. I've eaten no nuts in this time either and have realized that my half-a-jar of almond butter binges were probably just a substitute for the sugar I wanted. But, by having "real-food" sugar (fruit, honey, chocolate milk made with 2 tsp of sugar and good cocoa, dried fruits, etc) my cravings for "crap-food" is gone.

                          Anyway, I know this sounds crazy and everyone reading this is doing a low-carb "sugar busting" plan to get over cravings, but after 15 years of struggling with this, to finally have diminished the urges is a blessing. And I don't think I'll ever go back to low carb again.

                          Also, a great book to check out is Kathryn Hansen's Brain Over Binge. Really just her own personal story, but I can imagine most people on this thread might read her book and feel as though she is writing about them. I sure did.

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                          • #88
                            I eat two to three servings of fruit every day. Total carbs between 75-125 grams. Super low carb is one tenet of both Leptin Protocols that I do not follow.

                            I am in my forties and have learned that vlc makes me very moody, especially around TTOM.

                            Speaking of TTOM, my period arrived today exactly on time without any of the negative pms symptons that used to mean a certain binge.

                            Finally, I started this thread as a place for bingers to discuss what has worked for them. All ideas are welcome.
                            Primal since 9/24/2010
                            "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

                            Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools
                            MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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                            • #89
                              That's great news about making it through PMS. Always an extra struggle

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                              • #90
                                Hi I'm new to this forum & am so so so glad to stumble upon this thread...cos I'm seriously suffering from binge eating...in secret. 😓 just ate a pint of ice cream at 3am last night.....

                                I'm starting my primal journey today and hope to be able to stop my binges by logging on my journal every time I feel like a binge! Hope it works cos I've tried so many methods and it really didn't last me at all...fingers crossed....


                                From a little island in S.E.A.

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