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  • #46
    Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
    1 day binge free
    I wanted to describe my binges because they can be pretty severe and It might help someone else to know that they are not crazy or alone in this. Most days I eat fully Primal until after dinner. I will feel fine with little urge to binge. Suddenly, I will begin to picture a certain high carb food. My mind will begin to obsess on that food. I may try to pep talk myself out of it, but another part of my mind is saying "Oh go ahead, you deserve it, tomorrow is another day". (I call this voice Scarlett O'Hara)
    Eventually I give in. I'll eat the food I was thinking about. Then I'll eat something else and so on. I will eat for 2-3 hrs straight and then fall into bed like a drunk on a bender. Being tired and stressed/annoyed seems to be a big trigger problem for me.

    Here is a typical binge:
    Ice Cream
    Cereal with milk
    Bread and PB
    Fruit snacks
    Graham Crackers
    Chips
    Candy

    *Now the reason for my weight regain becomes clear. I do this at least 3x a week. Afterwards, I feel great remorse and self loathing, but I can't seem to stop it from happening. BTW all of the above is in the house for my husband and kids. Bad, I know.
    Get it out of the house! Seriously. That is what I need to do, too. Or buy what you will not eat (although it looks like at that time you will eat anything). Empty the house of binge foods for the short term if you have to; explain to your husband why you are doing this.

    Do you have to be alone when you binge? If so, then don't be alone. Sometimes it takes a detox period of sorts before you can really get a handle on it. I've been there with full blown bulimia for years (until I was 31; now 47). Leave the house at that time for a walk if you can. Do something!

    I feel for you. I haven't read any updates yet so I apologize if you have heard this over and over or if you have already done what I've suggested. Why we binge is so variable, so I hope you are able to find something that works. I don't feel the desire to binge when I eat enough protein.
    sigpic
    Age 48
    Start date: 7-5-12
    5'3"
    121lbs
    GOAL: to live to be a healthy and active 100


    "In health there is freedom. Health is the first of all liberties."
    Henri Frederic Amiel

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    • #47
      Thanks for the advice.
      Unfortunately, my family is not Primal so removing those foods is not possible. My sons are 17, 14 and 8. The youngest has Asperger's and is particular about his food. I have tried to get them to be gluten free at least, but no luck so far. My husband will not stand for my "depriving" him and the kids just because I have no control. In some ways I agree with him. I can binge on anything Primal or not.

      And I don't have to be alone to binge. It just makes it easier. I am rarely alone.

      Distraction is a good idea. Thanks
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      "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
        Thanks for the advice.
        Unfortunately, my family is not Primal so removing those foods is not possible. My sons are 17, 14 and 8. The youngest has Asperger's and is particular about his food. I have tried to get them to be gluten free at least, but no luck so far. My husband will not stand for my "depriving" him and the kids just because I have no control. In some ways I agree with him. I can binge on anything Primal or not.

        And I don't have to be alone to binge. It just makes it easier. I am rarely alone.

        Distraction is a good idea. Thanks
        Ah, my youngest has an Autism Dx (he is 11); more like Aspergers now. I get the STRESSSSSSSSSSS and the food aversions. My son was entirely GF for several years to alleviate some heavy duty digestive problems (very gassy), but now can tolerate some gluten. It is tough. I actually have another thread going on how to get coconut oil into that kid!

        My house is full of SAD crap. Full of it. I go through times where I get all mad at how poorly my kids are eating so I empty out the house. Then I slowly bring it back in. Today I bought 2 fun-size bags of Snickers and Milky Way for the kids (15, 14, 11); telling myself I will not eat them. We'll see. At least I am not throwing up anymore, but the binge eating is so hard on the confidence and motivation.

        I had a friend do this: She wore a rubber band around her wrist and snapped it when she started eating out of control. At the first bite. I know you understand the dissociative state we seem to be in when we binge. That 'how the hell did that happen?' moment after 30-60 minutes of eating where we tally up what went in to our stomach. She felt that snap broke it. It reminded her to leave the house, take a shower or just do something to get her out of the food. I never tried it.

        We all share some similar stories and trials. Our solutions, unfortunately, will vary so widely. I hope someone offers something for you that will hit home.
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        Age 48
        Start date: 7-5-12
        5'3"
        121lbs
        GOAL: to live to be a healthy and active 100


        "In health there is freedom. Health is the first of all liberties."
        Henri Frederic Amiel

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        • #49
          It is good to know we are not alone in this. I may try the rubber band idea. I have actually been thinking about duct tape. No, really. On evenings when I feel the obsession coming on and I have finished eating for the day, I am going to tape my mouth shut until bedtime. I have not had any food fantasies this week so I haven't tried it yet. I'll let you know how it goes. lol
          Primal since 9/24/2010
          "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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          MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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          • #50
            Paula, a surgical mask would probably do the same thing because you would have to remove it to eat something and that action brings you back to the here and now. It is what I do when I bake or make desserts. It would be easier on the skin. Or how about one of the football mouthpieces. One of the ones that you heat and then shape to your teeth. They can be quite difficult to get off and that would slow things down.

            Getting stuff out of the house doesn't work for me. I have binged on raw Brussels sprouts (that is absolutely true, dipped in homemade ranch dressing). The next day was much more unpleasant than if I had done cake or whatever.
            Chris
            "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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            My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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            • #51
              I used to binge but ever since switching to Primal eating and lifestyle (walking, sprinting, good sleep) I killed the sweet cravings stone dead. I found eating fat really helped me. I gave that tip to my 56 year old mom, who is desperate to lose weight after a 3 week binge as she needs to be able to get into her expensive dress for my wedding in 3 weeks, and she has seen amazing results after years of eating low fat.
              I'm not saying it is the solution, but eating fat (within a reasonable calorie limit) certainly helped me control my sweet cravings. I keep my carbs fairly low and when I have a slight craving for something sweet I just eat some fruit, but that is not so often. (I'm not convinced about any kind of smoothies to be honest, liquid food just doesn't satiate enough)

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              • #52
                It is very interesting how different each of us is regarding getting over binging. Over a year ago, I started Atkins, (I did very little of the fake stuff). Then a few months later I went Primal. High fat and VLC, no change in the binge area (or in my weight). I played around with the amount of carbs, still nothing.

                Now using this system I feel less like I am dieting and more in control of my eating. To me the smoothies are just a way to easily get the nutrients my body needs. Having one for breakfast improves my nutrient make up because I don't eat normally eat food in the morning (I wear a retainer to sleep and my teeth are tender in the morning). No satiety needed, I am not used to it anyway. My afternoon smoothie has replaced the food I would be eating in my afternoon witching hour while roaming through the pantry stuffing thing willy nilly into my mouth. I could replace it with a plate of veggies and some form of protein and get the same effect, but I don't, I have planned to, but just don't. For some reason this works for me.

                My lunches and dinners are beautiful colorful chew fests of protein and veggies.

                I totally understand the idea that a liquid meal replacement is not for everyone. For me they were additions more than replacements, so that may be why they work for me.
                Chris
                "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by FlyingPig View Post
                  I'm not saying it is the solution, but eating fat (within a reasonable calorie limit) certainly helped me control my sweet cravings. I keep my carbs fairly low and when I have a slight craving for something sweet I just eat some fruit, but that is not so often. (I'm not convinced about any kind of smoothies to be honest, liquid food just doesn't satiate enough)
                  Liquid food seems to enhance my appetite; not stifle it (even with protein powders). I agree with you. And, I did mean to say fat instead of protein... the fat intake is what seemed to help me the most. My protein sources can be pretty fatty (rib eye vs chicken)!
                  sigpic
                  Age 48
                  Start date: 7-5-12
                  5'3"
                  121lbs
                  GOAL: to live to be a healthy and active 100


                  "In health there is freedom. Health is the first of all liberties."
                  Henri Frederic Amiel

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                  • #54
                    I wish it had worked for me, since I started Primal August of 2011, I would be at or very near my goal weight by now, instead I am exactly where I started.
                    Chris
                    "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                    My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                    My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by demuralist View Post
                      I wish it had worked for me, since I started Primal August of 2011, I would be at or very near my goal weight by now, instead I am exactly where I started.
                      I know this feeling, though now I'm about twenty pounds heavier (though, arguably, some of it is muscles, but still) as I'll have mental breaks about "depriving" myself of certain foods and then have to eat them all in a short period of time or attempt to eat primally, but eat ten times more trying to avoid what I really want.

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                      • #56
                        oh man, I have run the gamete from being 100% to easing up a bit, to counting calories, to trying every combo of macro %'s you can imagine, exercising not exercising, blah blah blah. At least with what I am doing now I generally do not feel deprived and while I am not perfect, I am very close, and I feel confident that this will actually help with metabolic healing. Especially if the sleep issue clears up. And if I get the sleep my body needs along with metabolic healing I feel sure that I will have the energy to do real exercise and being to build muscle and lose fat. I just need to be patient and stay the course.
                        Chris
                        "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                        Unknown

                        My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                        My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                        • #57
                          I am pulling myself up by the boot straps.. my binging weekend is over.. I do not even want to rehash what I ate. Suffice to say, it was horrible and my tummy has been wonky ever since.. thank goodness I am not THAT far from a bathroom.

                          Why did I do it? Pity and stress are my only excuse. DD is still sick, losing weight and trying to get her to take more meds on top of her daily meds.. OMG.. kill me now..I am also exhausted. DD slept with me because she did not feel good, hence I slept like crap. Even last night sleeping alone, I was awake at 3:30am because she was restless and talking/yelling (to someone in a dream) almost all night.
                          Karin


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                          • #58
                            Narrowly missed a binge last night. All the signs were there, thinking about food, visualizing myself eating the food etc. I did have a primal snack and overate a bit, but did not eat the binge food. It's PMS week.
                            Primal since 9/24/2010
                            "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                            • #59
                              I haven't been posting much because I am on a 9 day liquid juice and smoothie fast so haven't been having too much in the way of binge problems. I have ben following everyones postings though.

                              I have been watching my urges though and learning some interesting things. Very emotionally driven I am! My dog got sick and I took her to the vet - came home craving carbs - chips, cheese and crackers. Hubby having some issues at work that will affect me - oh I was realy feeling like eating. Had some quite anxious moments. Like I wondered a while ago - is this my lot now that I can't have the wheaty carbs that I crave and love? WIll this pass as the addiction lessens. Or do I have the issue with fewer dopamine receptors and therefore the need to eat more to "feel" OK.

                              I have to say that its been very enlightening being able to watch it all from a place of not eating. If I was just eating normally, primaly it would be easy to just slide in a comforting carb but somehow not eating has made it easy for me to just watch it. I guess once you know something you cannot NOT know it. SO can I start eating again and be as detached?

                              Thursday will tell. Mind you we are going to Virginia for 5 days to check out the DC area and see friends. Never been - lots to see but also lots of eating out...

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
                                Narrowly missed a binge last night. All the signs were there, thinking about food, visualizing myself eating the food etc. I did have a primal snack and overate a bit, but did not eat the binge food. It's PMS week.
                                Good for you, Paula!
                                I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.

                                Oscar Wilde

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