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  • #16
    Chris, sneaky little bingeses (if you've watched Lord of the Rings, you know the voice to use).

    Anyway, I too had my binge this weekend and am paying for it. Some ice cream Friday and Saturday. Yesterday was a picnic and while the hostess, a woman I barely know, knows some of our food restrictions and did a fantastic job, I still made bad choices. She made gazpacho (which I'd never had) and hello tomatoes. The main meal was great, but included some white potatoes. She had guac and crackers and cheese (I avoided that stuff) and I took fruit salsa with cinnamon sugar pita chips. What was I thinking??? Too much sugar and grain together and I ate a lot of it. I don't eat fruit often at all and that was just crazy. I topped it all off with a small piece of cake and a piece of homemade toffee.

    So today I have to work, which means 4 hours in the car traveling, and we have another picnic tonight. I'm puffy, up almost 3 pounds, and in pain (fibro sucks when I don't eat right) and would prefer to lay around the rest of the day! Had a normal breakfast, but 1 meal will not correct it.

    I sympathize with the struggles of everyone. I off to work and back on track.

    Have a great day!

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    • #17
      heehee

      I am impressed that you were able to do 1 piece of homemade toffee! I do best if I don't even think about tasting, once started I have serious trouble stopping at one of anything.
      Chris
      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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      • #18
        Hi there,

        Binge eating here too last couple of weeks. don't really know what triggered it. I do it primal style, but it is still binging and it still feels awful being so out of control (bit of a control freak I am).
        I am thinking on starting an whole 30 for tomorrow to get it under control, and that itself triggered another binge attack...
        binging primal style goes like this for me:
        - half a jar of almond butter
        - 150g parmesan cheese
        - home made chocolate
        - lots of almond flour pastry
        - hazelnut butter
        - more chocolate

        in between I add some healthy things like broccolisoup, or home made yoghurt, in the hope to stop it. But usually only bedtime does. So looking forward to an early night....and hopefully start the whole30 tomorrow.

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        • #19
          I made it through clean today and am going to bed early. I was in tears a little while ago when I realized that I don't really fit into the clothes that I was wearing to school last spring. I can't even wear a skirt or dress because my bad ankle (circulation issues) looks like crap and will definitely get the attention of my new students.
          Primal since 9/24/2010
          "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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          • #20
            Originally posted by demuralist View Post
            60 minutes had a bit on last night about the flavorings that they add to foods to essentially make them addictive. Of course they said "not addictive so much as make you want to keep coming back for more" it is not "so much that we are trying to get people to eat more at one sitting as that we want them to keep buying it". Basically said that if it comes in a box, package or bag flavors have been added to "enhance" the taste experience. Part of the reason that our fresh often don't taste the way we think it should or how we remember it from being a kid is that our taste buds are not sensitive to those flavors, and partly because the packaged have been enhanced so in comparison fresh is not flavor enhanced. I knew all of this but seeing them just chat it up and not take responsibility for how it has contributed to the way Americans eat was irritating.

            They actually said that they shoot for a flavor burst up front with a very short linger so that you will want to eat more of it. So once you put one in your mouth, well you are a goner.

            Don't get me wrong, I strongly believe in personal responsibility, but come on, the pusher has to take some responsibility.

            Of course that doesn't excuse my little adventure, since it was made from scratch, I was the pusher and the buyer.

            Today is a new day.
            Chris, further to this, you might want to look into "The End of Overeating" by David Kessler. I've recommended it here before, and I think it might interest you. It's a comprehensive examination (from the former head of the FDA) of how food manufacturers finesse their products to make them pleasurable and highly addictive via their sensory stimuli. Fascinating book with amazing insights into commercial food production (I don't know how he got all those industry insiders to openly tell him what they did). Jaw-dropping stuff. It certainly explained to me the brain chemistry/physiological reasons for why so many people have trouble giving up eating crap - and it's alarming. You may not agree with all the conclusions/recommendations he comes to for dealing with conditioned hyper-eating, but it's still really interesting reading.
            I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.

            Oscar Wilde

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
              I made it through clean today and am going to bed early. I was in tears a little while ago when I realized that I don't really fit into the clothes that I was wearing to school last spring. I can't even wear a skirt or dress because my bad ankle (circulation issues) looks like crap and will definitely get the attention of my new students.
              Hugs, Paula. You have my sympathy and empathy. Well done on getting through today - keep on going, girl.
              I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.

              Oscar Wilde

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              • #22
                Thanks Sigi, I will look into it. Kessler was actually interviewed for the piece on 60 Minutes.
                Chris
                "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                • #23
                  So yesterday...

                  The icing was hidden in the back of the freezer, calling to me. So I started in on it. I am thinking the normal thoughts "why do I do this to myself" type of stuff, when at about the 4th spoonful I just thought "this is idiotic" and dumped the rest into the trash. Technically I was saving it for my daughter, but realistically I knew I was going to end up eating all or most of it. So while it started as a binge it was a short one.

                  Today is a new day.
                  Chris
                  "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                  Unknown

                  My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                  My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Sigi View Post
                    Fascinating book with amazing insights into commercial food production (I don't know how he got all those industry insiders to openly tell him what they did). Jaw-dropping stuff.
                    Back before I met my boyfriend, dating taught me that people will really open up and tell you their dirtiest secrets if you just don't look shocked, smile and act like it's all fascinating. It still amazes me that people will actually tell you really horrible things they did, almost with a sense of pride, if you just don't put on your "you disgust me" face. So... yeah, I can see them telling him stuff like that, especially if they had some idea of anonymity.
                    Durp.

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                    • #25
                      What drives me crazy about food additives is the 'secret' aspect of them. When people are buying food, they are just thinking about 'food', not 'food + addictive substances'. You don't ASSUME that 'food' will have something added to it whose purpose is not 'food' but 'addiction'. And yet, that's just what they are getting.

                      Not everyone is going to be educated about what is in their food. And I don't think they should need to be, either. Food should be simple.

                      But, I am very grateful for mainstream programs like '60 Minutes' bringing this out. Knowledge is power.

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                      • #26
                        So what do YOU all do when you can forsee a binge coming on. For example: today I am home with a sick kid (I am home), I am also not feeling so hot (feeling sick), TTOM (need I say more), did not sleep much over the past couple days, sick kid (I am tired).
                        Karin


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                        • #27
                          I have had success with the following...sometimes.

                          I drink a hot beverage. Coffee with heavy cream and stevia is my go to drink. I also love bouillon for this purpose.

                          I clean or organize something. Anything that gives me a handful of stuff to deal with.

                          I take a nap.

                          I eat something Primal. (Smoothie anyone?)

                          I write down my thoughts and feelings in my paper journal.

                          I take a teaspoon of L glutamine powder under the tongue.

                          I ride my elliptical trainer or dance around to loud music.
                          Primal since 9/24/2010
                          "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                          • #28
                            I am also a bad binge eater. Everyday I wake up determined to eat well. BY 4 or 5 o'clock I am pouring a glass of wine and eating crap through till bedtime. I go to bed with heartburn, depressed, guilty, and cursing myself determined to do better tomorrow. Sleep and repeat! I guess the only plus to it all is I have stopped eating grains and I know thats a biggie but it seems that at first it was great and cravings were gone but now that its been some months I am craving again but binging on non grain stuff. Thought it was the answer but I've just replaced my grain binges with cheese and nut ones. Dang

                            I have broken the cycle twice in the past 6 months and plan to do it again for the next 10 days. I do liquids only. Smoothies with protein powder and juices(mostly greens with some fruit). My caloric intake is around 1200-1500 cals a day. Protein around 50g. and carbs under 50-100g(closer to 100 if I have my almond milk, date and banana smoothie).

                            The heart burn stops. After a day or two the cravings stop. I know this is not a reasonable way of eating but I just need to stop sometimes and give my body a break. Maybe once I start eating again this time, I can be more in control. Sometimes I am so scared that I am hurting my body irrepairably.

                            I have a moderate anxiety disorder (not medicated) that I have found worsened since I ditched the grains. I read the other day that some fat people have less dopamine receptors and therefore need to eat more carbs to feel good or not anxious. And the carbs act just like opiates on the brain as shown by PET scans.

                            I don't know what to replace those carbs with to give me that feeling. Lifting weights does it but only for a couple hours. If I am one of those with fewer dopamine receptors am I stuck feeling this way forever if I don't eat grains.

                            Thanks for reading. Its reasuring to see other people with the same issues. Because you know this is all hidden from others. I would not eat this way infront of people

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                            • #29
                              Hey snoops.

                              What is your carb level? I find that having 1/2 a sweet potato and one serving of berries plus some starchy veg helps me get enough carbs without too much sugar which might trigger a binge.. Some people have found that they cannot go under 50g carb without anxiety or depression issues.
                              Primal since 9/24/2010
                              "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

                              Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools
                              MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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                              • #30
                                I have a cup of berries in my morning protein smoothie. Which is maybe what helps me to get to the late afternoon without bingeing. I probably need to try to get something into me midafternoon (after this next 10 days liquid fast). Normally I would just have some sliced meat and cheese and nuts and maybe a green juice for lunch, so pretty low carb. Thanks for making me think of that.

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