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  • Yeah, if I lived closer to you, I could come by and pick up sauce. You could be in the sauce business!

    I grew up in Southern California, that was common among Mexican families. One grandma/auntie would make huge batches of sauces every week and other family household would come by and pick their share. Great system.
    My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

    "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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    • I'm mystified by the Sugar and the Canola oil in every bottle of Tikka Masala Sauce I've seen. Why sugar? Even in the Stuff from TJs and Whole Foods? I wonder if Stevia would be a reasonable substitute. I imagine it's there to kill the tomato tang. The oil could easily be replaced by Coconut oil I would think. The flavors are compatable.

      So Cal? Wow, you are a long way from home! About as far as you can get and still stay in the US! I've lived in CT all of my life except for the decade that included college. I've been all over but like it here.
      Height: 5' 10"
      Starting Weight: 292
      Starting Primal Weight: 275
      Current weight: 224
      Goal weight: 172
      Body Fat 30.5

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      • Originally posted by Siobhan View Post
        Yeah, if I lived closer to you, I could come by and pick up sauce. You could be in the sauce business!

        I grew up in Southern California, that was common among Mexican families. One grandma/auntie would make huge batches of sauces every week and other family household would come by and pick their share. Great system.
        Sauce business!! Salsa verde, pico, Indian flavors - imagine the possibilities!
        Female 55
        Starting wt: 198, Goal: 135, Current with PB: 165
        Started at a size 16 down to loose 10

        With PB my asthma has improved, low back pain is gone, & I've got more energy

        My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60175.html

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        • Dave the sauce guy... Possibilities.

          So right now my weight has stabilized at right about what's in my signature block, and my average temperature throughout the day is 97.8, over a full degree over what it was over the weekend. My hands and feet are no longer always cold. All good news. I've been keeping my calories around 2500/day.

          It's strange, when I plug my weight and activity level into FitDay or any of the other online BMR calculators I always get minimum caloric requirements of well over 3k a day. So even dropping it to 2500 a day should give me a weight loss of a pound or more a week. But I don't lose weight. I maintain at 2500, I lose slowly at 2000 but then I plateau. The fasting was an attempt to break through the plateau in a purposeful way.

          The trouble was that while I did break through the plateau (250s), in my zeal I thought I could do it regularly and that threw me into starvation mode. I had hoped the potato fast would act like a carb refeed while still maintaining or losing weight and I was wrong about that.

          So I'll go another week like this and try to maintain my current weight and then see how my temperature and energy level is. I am still feeling rather weak and lethargic. Though as Ecks points out, there may be seasonal things going on as well. I really have been enjoying sitting by the fire and drinking broth!

          But at 237 lbs, I am the lowest weight I have been in some years. I look better and except this past few days, I feel better. I can wait to take off the last sixty pounds a few weeks to get the metabolism stable.
          Height: 5' 10"
          Starting Weight: 292
          Starting Primal Weight: 275
          Current weight: 224
          Goal weight: 172
          Body Fat 30.5

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          • Originally posted by DCarr10760 View Post
            It's funny, but unless I am fasting (potatoes or no potatoes) I really don't notice strong feelings of hunger. I'm not yet very attuned to the signals my body sends to me. It's getting better, since PB, but I still am eating to a set schedule rather than in response to feelings of hunger. Unless I have really overeaten, I am slow to notice satiety too. I stop eating when I believe I've had a reasonable amount. I could always eat more. The other night with the masala, because I was concerned about the drop in temperature and of eating too little for too long a period of time, I decided to eat until full. I ate approximately 3x what I would have normally eaten and was uncomfortable as a result.

            I have to pay attention to appetite, hunger and satiety more than I do now. I'm not sure to go about it though.
            Well, you are "blessed" with a healthy appetite, as am I. If I eat till I'm full, I've usually overeaten. And it shows on the scales. Several years of watching myself has at least shrunk my stomach somewhat; I really am no longer capable of indulging as much as I used to. Good thing. Eating enough is generally eating until hunger has been relieved, not until we are full. Stomachs are very elastic. Having said that, I find that once a week or two I feel almost driven to feast, and I rather think there's nothing wrong with that. There is something so satisfying about having a full tummy occasionally. Occasionally being the operative word. I feel really rotten if I do it too often, and it loses its psychological impact too. Seeing as we have weekly biorhythms, in addition to the daily and seasonal ones, I think it makes sense to pick a day for feasting. Moderate feasting. It's like every other holiday, it makes a return to routine feel welcome.

            Originally posted by DCarr10760 View Post
            Dave the sauce guy... Possibilities.

            So right now my weight has stabilized at right about what's in my signature block, and my average temperature throughout the day is 97.8, over a full degree over what it was over the weekend. My hands and feet are no longer always cold. All good news. I've been keeping my calories around 2500/day.

            It's strange, when I plug my weight and activity level into FitDay or any of the other online BMR calculators I always get minimum caloric requirements of well over 3k a day. So even dropping it to 2500 a day should give me a weight loss of a pound or more a week. But I don't lose weight. I maintain at 2500, I lose slowly at 2000 but then I plateau. The fasting was an attempt to break through the plateau in a purposeful way.

            The trouble was that while I did break through the plateau (250s), in my zeal I thought I could do it regularly and that threw me into starvation mode. I had hoped the potato fast would act like a carb refeed while still maintaining or losing weight and I was wrong about that.

            So I'll go another week like this and try to maintain my current weight and then see how my temperature and energy level is. I am still feeling rather weak and lethargic. Though as Ecks points out, there may be seasonal things going on as well. I really have been enjoying sitting by the fire and drinking broth!

            But at 237 lbs, I am the lowest weight I have been in some years. I look better and except this past few days, I feel better. I can wait to take off the last sixty pounds a few weeks to get the metabolism stable.
            We live and learn. Getting to know our own bodies and their requirements is part of the journey. And I do think that backing off and just going into maintenance mode is a good way to handle things every now and again. We have to refind our balance occasionally. And reassure our bodies that the craziness isn't permanent... LOL!
            5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
            Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
            Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

            More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
            - Lewis Mumford

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            • David, if you go into the sauce business, let me know. I am available for recipe testing.

              But I know why sugar and canola oil is in everything. It's cheap. Sugar is a great way to boost flavor. Put a bit of sugar into just about anything and people will rave about it, especially tomato-y things. Canola oil is practically free for food processors, right down there with HFCS, but people are getting more and more anti-HFCS these days so quality foodmakers won't touch it. (Although I am cynical enough to wonder if they don't sneak it in sometimes)

              This whole weight loss thing is pretty weird. Just when we think we have it all figured out it tends to turn around and bite us somewhere. It is either tantalizingly easy or maddeningly difficult.
              Last edited by Siobhan; 10-16-2012, 02:03 PM.
              My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

              "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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              • You should try the leptin reset with me next week!
                SW (Nov 22nd 2011): 333
                Current Weight as of Nov 25 2015: 248
                Short Term Goal: Fit into the shirts I got on my honeymoon at disney and universal in august next year when I go back to for my 1 year anniversary
                Met Goal: Be a 2x Shirt, Fit in a standard airplane seat belt without the use of a seat belt extension
                Long Term Goal: 166lbs (One day!), Buy whatever cloths I want to wear.
                Pain is temporary, quitting is forever- Lance Armstrong #NoExcuses

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                • Thanks for your comments everybody! :-)

                  Well today is my weigh-in day and I managed to lose a pound, which I am happy with because it's a new official low for me, and because I have really just been trying to maintain my weight around 238 until my temperature stabilizes. As to that, yesterday my temperature was in the mid 97 degree range and today it is also. So it is still below normal, but I haven't a clue what is normal for me.

                  I would guess that I would be somewhat hotter than usual, based on my "warm" blooded-ness, but I really don't know if it works like that.

                  Eating has been good, last night SWMBO and Boy went to dinner with friends from his School on the spur of the moment leaving me on my own hook. I had thawed pork chops so I broiled one to just done-ness and devoured it. It was bone-in and pastured and was just incredibly good. I put more cayenne pepper on it than normal because I read that this increases metabolism by raising core temperature. Apparently, I cannot help tinkering...

                  Anyway, it was delicious and I chomped and chewed on the bone in a manner most Primal. :-). I grazed for the rest of dinner, a handfull of macadamia nuts, part of an apple that Boy left uneaten, some leftover zucchini. I didn't do the calorie totals, but it counted as feasting. I wasn't full to busting, but I had plenty. I still have thawed pork left (intended for SWMBO and Boy) and I may give the pork and butternut squash dish that Mark posted last week a try tonight.

                  I'm usually not given to following recipes, there are flavor combinations that I like and I work within those, but I do try new things periodically to expand my repertoire.

                  I do really like cooking with interesting spices. I order spices from Penzeys catalog. In fact, I just ordered a quantity of Garam Masala, which is the spice mixture that is the basis of Masala sauce, so that project is moving along.

                  @Ecks I'll look over your journal where I think you wrote about the principles of the Leptin reset. But I think it will fit in nicely right about now. I will be traveling to Ohio next week Tues-Thurs and will therefore have less control over what, and particularly when I'll be eating. But count me in and I'll do my best!

                  A side note on footwear... I have been looking for minimal running or walking shoes. I can't wear the vibram five-fingers because my ginormous wide, flattish, high instepped, size 13 feet do not fit them. :-( But I did order a pair of New Balance Minimals, which are really light and small (comparatively). I wore them last evening to break them in a bit and they are the most comfortable shoes I ever had! I don't know how they'll hold up, but I'm going to buy a couple more pairs today!

                  M'gosh I'm rambling... :-)
                  Height: 5' 10"
                  Starting Weight: 292
                  Starting Primal Weight: 275
                  Current weight: 224
                  Goal weight: 172
                  Body Fat 30.5

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                  • It's your journal, you're allowed to ramble.

                    Spices are so much fun. And they practically all have some wonderful property or two, so they're fun and virtuous at the same time.
                    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                    - Lewis Mumford

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                    • Ramble away, that is what we regular readers come here for. I get pretty bored with those journals that say "Ate two raw eggs, lifted heavy stuff, ate raw beef, weekly HIIT on bike. The End" Don't get many ideas from those!
                      My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                      "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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                      • I've been wearing my New Balance minimals for a couple months now and I love them! I treat them like shit and there is no sign of wear and tear yet. And they're machine washable! Mine have the vibram souls. I'm not sure if they make other minimals or if we have the same ones.
                        SW (Nov 22nd 2011): 333
                        Current Weight as of Nov 25 2015: 248
                        Short Term Goal: Fit into the shirts I got on my honeymoon at disney and universal in august next year when I go back to for my 1 year anniversary
                        Met Goal: Be a 2x Shirt, Fit in a standard airplane seat belt without the use of a seat belt extension
                        Long Term Goal: 166lbs (One day!), Buy whatever cloths I want to wear.
                        Pain is temporary, quitting is forever- Lance Armstrong #NoExcuses

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                        • I'll have to think about getting the Minimals in the Spring. I'd try the Five-Fingers, but I think hubby would be totally horrified... He's such a conformist. Plus he has a bone spur in his heel, and absolutely needs more support. He was also raised with a horror of bare feet, so imagine...
                          5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                          Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                          Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                          More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                          - Lewis Mumford

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                          • @judg, So far I like the New Balance Minimus shoes. I do not believe that they are as good as the VFF in terms of mimicking barefootedness, but they do have less "support." Last night my feet were tired in odd places but his morning I feel fine, so I think that's a good thing.

                            @ecks, In looking at the Leptin Reset, I'm sort of having a difficut time understanding how it is different than a Ketogenic diet, but I'm in. I think the major difference is the heavy protein load at breakfast. I normally eat a couple of eggs, which is only 15 grams. Upping that shouldn't be too hard. Some kippers along with the eggs and I should get to 40 - 50 no sweat.

                            @Siobhan (and Judg) Yesterday was a rambly day, here in the journal and in the rest of my world. It was hard for me to focus on any one thing for very long. I think I was tired. I am feeling much better today. My temp was 97.8 so it seems to be coming back up to whatever normal is for me.

                            I was 0.2 lbs lighter this morning (well within my normal weight fluctuations) but I bring it up because I was concerned that last week's loss was due to dehydration. Yesterday I made it a point to drink plenty of fluids and had some saltier things as well. So I think it was real. Hopefully I'm stabilizing after the weirdness of the fasting and potato thing.

                            My intention was to make the braised pork with roasted butternut squash from the recent recipe in Mark's blog. But didn't really have time to roast the squash, so I ended up braising the pork with yummy pie-like spices and tossed in some mystery greens from the fridge, (maybe it was escarole) and using some leftover sweet potato. It was great! I don't eat sweet potato very often, though I love it. I just had three peices, about 1/4 of a large sweet potato. So for the day I was still under 50 grams of carbs. Haven't checked to see if I'm in ketosis recently, but I might be. I'm not really intentionally avoiding carbs, I've just been away from them now for so long that I don't think to eat them.

                            I certainly feel more energetic, so that's good!
                            Height: 5' 10"
                            Starting Weight: 292
                            Starting Primal Weight: 275
                            Current weight: 224
                            Goal weight: 172
                            Body Fat 30.5

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                            • The pork sounds great! Good thing I ate before reading this!

                              I am looking at neoprene booties for winter hiking, or at least cold fall weather hiking. They are pretty cheap. I feel I have been spending way too much money lately. But I hate to put my feet back in shoes except for work, where we have things like needles and heavy moving things that like to crush unsuspecting toes. (No, we don't leave needles lying around, but we do have violent patients that can cause them to go flying.) Still, I am interested the NB Minimus. If I could find them on sale...a really good sale...
                              My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                              "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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                              • I had my lunch, some of last night's pork leftover with whatever mystery greens were in the fridge, cooked down and tossed in. It was a lot of food volumetrically, but low in calories I suspect. I had a half of an avocado too, but I am hungry now. It probably doesn't help that everybody in the office has been talking non-stop about food all day.

                                I did notice I've been hungrier than usual since the whole wonky metabolism-temperature thing hit. Judg mentioned that it's part of the famine response and the increased appetite can take a long time to resolve. I've heard the same thing. I hope I wasn't so deep in it that it takes a real long time to normalize.

                                I'm not craving any particular thing. Just hunger.
                                Height: 5' 10"
                                Starting Weight: 292
                                Starting Primal Weight: 275
                                Current weight: 224
                                Goal weight: 172
                                Body Fat 30.5

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