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  • I'll have to try the buffet strategy. I'll have ample opportunity next week, as I travel to a conference in Minneapolis. There will undoubtedly be a lot of buffets there.

    Not much to report this week. Weight is unchanged. Too much debauchery, but at least no weight gain! So I rested on my oars a week. This week will be better (it already has been).
    Height: 5' 10"
    Starting Weight: 292
    Starting Primal Weight: 275
    Current weight: 224
    Goal weight: 172
    Body Fat 30.5

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    • So I ended up fasting yesterday, the whole day. Just water and coffee. It was only partly intentional. I planned to skip breakfast. Lunch just sorta happened. I hadn't packed anything, nobody had plans to go out, and it was a gorgeous day so I took a walk along the beach road instead.

      After work I went to my cousins to help with a renovation project prior to selling their house and they had invited me to dinner, but dinner is usually a big meal, with lots of beer, wine and liquor, and a very late night at that. So I begged off, not wanting to deal with the overindulgence on the one hand and having to explain it on the other.

      I got home in time to read boy his bedtime stories :-) SWMBO had not made anything for dinner but had browsed through the refrigerator to feed and I didn't feel like making a big meal or picking away like she did, so after several glasses of water I went to bed.

      During the day I was never hungry, though it was a pretty high stress day, so that may account for some of that. One thing that has changed about me is that I used to be a stress eater (and drinker), and neither is the case anymore.

      I figured that I would be starving in the morning but I'm not hungry now either.
      Height: 5' 10"
      Starting Weight: 292
      Starting Primal Weight: 275
      Current weight: 224
      Goal weight: 172
      Body Fat 30.5

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      • Did you read the links about 5/2 fasting on the Research thread? Very interesting, and it seems like it is something you may be naturally slipping into.

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        • So funny, I have had the same thing happen to me - stress eating was a major problem, especially with work, and staying on a "diet" always seemed impossible. Now I have the same reaction - when I have a lot of stress I don't feel like eating, which should be the natural reaction if you think about it hard enough. Back in the day, when you had to run away from cave lions you didn't stop for a snack! And you don't have to be a Grok to believe in that - the fight or flight reaction is well-known in CW, in fact most of our modern medications are based on it, i.e. they speed you up or slow you down. Okay, enough geek stuff - isn't it nice to not react in a negative way to stress?
          My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

          "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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          • Thanks Sabine! I'll check out the 5/2 fasting thread!

            I am currently on day two, now it's sorta intentional. I'll break the fast tomorrow morning. The last meal I ate was Wednesday night so it was all of Thursday and will be all of today. I'm not really hungry the way I would expect. I have had a minor headache, but nothing bad.

            It's been a very stressful day I got into an argument with a coworker over something stupid and she flew off the handle. We've been dealing with lots of tension between us and should have walked a wide circle around each other and didn't. That plus a huge presentation I've been preparing, that I fly out to Minneapolis next week to present and just general crazy work going on and I'm about as stressed as Ive ever been. Oddly enough I have a fair sense of peace about it all. Just not much of an appetite.

            Siobahn, you're right about the fight or flight thing. I used to self medicate with food and alcohol and now I'm doing neither. It somehow all feels more manageable. I just have a vague sense of sadness, about the coworker and about spending so much time and energy at work when autumn (my favorite season) is just around the corner.

            In the meantime I'll need to figure out what to break my fast with. Some meat maybe? Eggs? Nothing really sounds that good.
            Height: 5' 10"
            Starting Weight: 292
            Starting Primal Weight: 275
            Current weight: 224
            Goal weight: 172
            Body Fat 30.5

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            • So I made an omelet, 2 eggs so not huge, with some feta cheese, full fat yogurt and a spoonful of organic pesto (from our CSA box). Not a big breakfast but it is setting well.

              I'm a bit light-headed this morning. I guess in total I fasted from 8:00 Wednesday to 7:00 this morning, so just shy of 60 hrs. Just for kicks I weighed myself this AM and I was 244.1 So I lost nearly 6 lbs of something! We'll see what stays off.

              So one of the benefits to fasting like this, I am now convinced, is in times of great stress (what I have said about it is really just the tip of the iceberg). I felt focused, I was not quick to anger (though I am angry) and my thinking has been very clear. I didn't indulge in any of the reactive, self-medicating, escapist coping strategies that I've employed in the past.

              I almost can feel myself growing up! Sigh...
              Height: 5' 10"
              Starting Weight: 292
              Starting Primal Weight: 275
              Current weight: 224
              Goal weight: 172
              Body Fat 30.5

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              • Isn't it strange to meet the person who emerges when you shed the layers that have been holding you underneath? I really like the new me, but I haven't quite gotten used to her yet.
                My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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                • Interesting thought! One would think that fasting would be an extra stressor on top of the others.
                  5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                  Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                  Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                  More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                  - Lewis Mumford

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                  • Yeah, my time honored methods for dealing with stress were to eat whatever I wanted, because it would "make me feel better" or "because I deserve it" or it was to drink, because I was wound up and "needed it to relax."

                    Now I just don't think that way any more. Throughout this week I really tried to eat foods that I know are good for me and made a point of not going to dinners where I guessed I'd overindulge.

                    The two day fast was really not planned I was under enough stress that I lost my appetite, or more accurately I simply didn't want to make food and eat, nothing was appealing. I sort of liked the light empty feeling, and I felt it all through the first day and well into the second. I probably should've had dinner last night and stop at 48 hours. I had trouble sleeping and dreamed of food and eating, lol.

                    For lunch I had some very rare hamburger, yummm!
                    Height: 5' 10"
                    Starting Weight: 292
                    Starting Primal Weight: 275
                    Current weight: 224
                    Goal weight: 172
                    Body Fat 30.5

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                    • I find breaking a fast at night makes me wake up ravenous. So I try to avoid doing things that way. Now if I'm hungry at bedtime, I make up a coconut oil concoction of some kind. Seems to work without fueling the appetite the next morning.
                      5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                      Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                      Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                      More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                      - Lewis Mumford

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                      • Wow! That's impressive. I should give that a try sometime. I'm starting to dip my toes into the IF world by skipping breakfast. I plan to eat a big lunch at 12 noon, but it turns into reminding myself to eat something around 2 o clock. I enjoy the increased concentration I have from fasting.
                        If you have a few minutes- please take a look at my story, in my journal
                        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread87400.html
                        I do warn you, I am a copious writer.

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                        • Great news on the fast! And great that you were able to just go with it and receive the benefits.
                          My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                          "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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                          • Hi Judg, I rarely wake up ravenous. I'm usally up pretty early (5:00 - 5:30) and while I crave coffee asap, I'm not typically hungry until 9 or 10 and by that time I'm at work. I haven't noticed if big meals at night change that or not. I'll pay more attention to it, it's interesting.

                            Hi Campanella, after a full day and some not-so-careful eating (we had friends come over and brought dinner and wine) I've only put 1.1 lbs on since my post-fast low. So if my weight stays down I might try to incorporate longer fasts into my schedule either regularly (2x month maybe) or at least when I plateau in my weight loss.

                            Hi Siobahn, Thanks! I really like the flexibility of being able to eat when my body tells me to and be free to focus on other things and not eat when in rough waters. I'd been locked into the "three squares" for a long time, convinced that if I missed breakfast that I'd binge the rest of the day (self fulfilling prophesy). I'm much happier listening to my body.
                            Height: 5' 10"
                            Starting Weight: 292
                            Starting Primal Weight: 275
                            Current weight: 224
                            Goal weight: 172
                            Body Fat 30.5

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                            • Well normally my weigh in day would be on Wednesday but I'll be traveling this week so would not have access to the scale. So there is good news to report, I am down to 246.5, for a loss of 3.7 lbs since a week ago Wednesday, (9-5-202).

                              The fast really is what did it, at one point I was down to 244 and change. But I knew my weight would take some days to stabilize. I'm not entirely sure that it has completely even still.

                              I'm pretty happy with the weight loss. There are a whole bunch of clothes that I fit into nicely when I am in the 240s, mostly they are Fall/Winter things, so I'll be well dressed for the foreseeable future. Once I get into the 230s I'll need to start buying clothes :-)

                              Now the goal is to keep to the program while traveling. I have always fasted on days that I fly, I just don't like flying on a full stomach, never did. I give my presentation on Wednesday, Thursday I watch other presentations and that will be the most dangerous day in terms of adherence to diet goals. I'm going with our sales manager, an old school big drinker, man's man kinda guy. I'll stick to big steaks and salads and keep the drinking to a minimum. That's the plan.
                              Height: 5' 10"
                              Starting Weight: 292
                              Starting Primal Weight: 275
                              Current weight: 224
                              Goal weight: 172
                              Body Fat 30.5

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                              • Having a plan is one of the most important things for success, I find. Not that I always do it...

                                Congrats on the good progress! And have a safe trip.
                                5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                                Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                                Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                                More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                                - Lewis Mumford

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