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  • I love your tightest hole on the belt goal! I, too, need a new car. My VW Passat is an a**hole! My husband has a pristine 98 Chrysler Sebring convertible with 5,000 miles on it. I think he is going to buy a truck and give me the convertible . So, Germany, huh? AMAZING! And potatoes?! 2013 is going to be interesting for everyone

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    • Originally posted by Rasputina View Post
      I love your tightest hole on the belt goal! I, too, need a new car. My VW Passat is an a**hole! My husband has a pristine 98 Chrysler Sebring convertible with 5,000 miles on it. I think he is going to buy a truck and give me the convertible . So, Germany, huh? AMAZING! And potatoes?! 2013 is going to be interesting for everyone
      Yeah, potatoes. I generally gave them up once I declared myself Primal, until my Germany trip, that is. We still have them in the house as the rest of my people are not Primal. Hubby just eats what I cook or do not cook, First is "clean food" as she is sensitive to various chemicals added to food, Second is dairy-free and gluten-free, Third is on the SCD, and Fourth is, as mentioned, seriously picky. On the scale of Cardinal Food Sins, I consider potatoes to be minor, as long as they do not lead to other nonsense, or become a habit such that they throw the low carb thing way outta the ball park.

      I really have been thinking of this Primal thing lately... The first six months were "experiment" time to get in better shape before my trip, but now I am at the point where I feel obliged to make up my mind whether I am really going to go for the Full Primal Lifestyle or not. As you know, just putzing around gets you exactly nowhere. So far, everything Mark stands for, that I have chosen to try, has proven itself in my life without any negatives except for some willpower I need to expend, so no real fears except that I am weak-willed at the moment and kind of don't wanna even though I know this will be awesome for me. Human nature, huh?
      I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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      • Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
        Yeah, potatoes. I generally gave them up once I declared myself Primal, until my Germany trip, that is. We still have them in the house as the rest of my people are not Primal. Hubby just eats what I cook or do not cook, First is "clean food" as she is sensitive to various chemicals added to food, Second is dairy-free and gluten-free, Third is on the SCD, and Fourth is, as mentioned, seriously picky. On the scale of Cardinal Food Sins, I consider potatoes to be minor, as long as they do not lead to other nonsense, or become a habit such that they throw the low carb thing way outta the ball park.

        I really have been thinking of this Primal thing lately... The first six months were "experiment" time to get in better shape before my trip, but now I am at the point where I feel obliged to make up my mind whether I am really going to go for the Full Primal Lifestyle or not. As you know, just putzing around gets you exactly nowhere. So far, everything Mark stands for, that I have chosen to try, has proven itself in my life without any negatives except for some willpower I need to expend, so no real fears except that I am weak-willed at the moment and kind of don't wanna even though I know this will be awesome for me. Human nature, huh?
        I hear you and feel you on the whole "primal issue". I kicked drinking beer, smoking, and being a worthless pile in the last 6 months. I've been "primal" since 2010, although how could I have been Primal as an alcoholic? I do drink red wine now. I don't crave it or live for it. I don't live for cheese anymore, although I still love it and have it, occasionally. I've eschewed meat, then gone back to meat (in much smaller portions), hated carbs, indulged in sweet potatoes and some rice (although rice is just pointless filler to me), then decided, meh, don't need so many carbs... you know the drill. I feel like I'm in a new mindset. I have 3 close family members right now with stage 4 cancer. I'm now trying to hack the best way to de-stress, figure out what life is supposed to be lived for, and eat as non-toxic as possible.

        Anyway, this isn't about me! It's about you and all of us that are just trying to find the best way to get through daily life and enjoy every damned scrap of it! I love that you experiment with your diet. I love that you obviously adore your family and that your husband will support you. I think you are a seriously rad person, and whether or not you decide to continue "Paleo" or "Primal", I hope you continue to update here sometimes

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        • Hey, Raspy, DO talk about yourself! As I tell my "typical" kids all the time, even though they are good and sick if it, it is in the sharing of personal stories that we help each other and learn!! (They have a whole childhood of waiting patiently while Mom finishes yakking with some stranger or other at therapy or the Clinic behind them...). Thanks for the compliment about being rad - I have never been called that before!

          Wow, cancer. I am really sorry to hear that. I cannot imagine as I have don't have much experience there. My cousin died of a brain tumor a few years back (at 24) but my aunt never actually came out and bald-faced said "John has brain cancer" and my experience with any cancer was zilch, and my ability to mind-read awful, so that by the time I picked up on what he really was going through, I was visiting him in palliative care at CHOP, and even then, that was my first-ever hearing of the term "palliative care" that I had to go and look it up. Sounds really, really ignorant and stupid of me, but I was clueless until I saw him there, mostly out of his mind and just occasionally lucid, as brain tumors did to him, and it all made sudden sense. My aunt never called to ask for help or complain or anything during his illness. I just got a phone call one day telling me that I should really meet them at CHOP, so we went as we were all living in Jersey at the time.

          Re staying on this forum - hell yes!! This is the first and only online forum I have ever joined, with no plans to leave. So if you will talk to me, I will be here. And besides - I really like you!
          I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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          • Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
            Re staying on this forum - hell yes!! This is the first and only online forum I have ever joined, with no plans to leave. So if you will talk to me, I will be here. And besides - I really like you!
            Phew.
            I like badgers, books and booze, more or less in that order.

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            • Well, let me just say that I am happy you're still here, and I'm still here, and we both are rad. It's my step-dad, great-grandmother, and mother-in-law that have stage 4 cancer. I want them all to live forever, for very selfish reasons (I love them). I think you are a swell person. I like your tenacity. I like the Appalachians. I think good people, like you, are what make other good people decide not to be so apathetic about life. You're good, I'm good, It's all good, for some reason my chin itches (totally unrelated).

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              • Hells bells...

                On Monday one of Third's favorite classmates succumbed to a serious genetic disorder. Everybody adult in her life knew this was coming eventually, but Third did not. The little girl was only supposed to live one year, but made it to 11, out of the sheer force of her mama's love. After a lifetime of seizures, spasticity, feeding tube, very little volitional movement, bracing, severe scoliosis, heavy duty drugs, poverty and begging the state for help, and so many surgeries and hospital stays, her trials are over.

                Third and I are taking this kind of hard - I am weepy just writing this. And in a little while we are off to the viewing in town.

                There are never the right words for this kind of thing.
                I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                • Hugs CC (and one for Third too)

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                  • My heart goes out to you and third.
                    Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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                    • There are never the right words for these things, that is true, but there is the love you can show rather than say and I am sure that family will appreciate your support. I'm thinking of you and sending love to you and your family.
                      I like badgers, books and booze, more or less in that order.

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                      • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                        Hugs CC (and one for Third too)
                        Originally posted by Urban Forager View Post
                        My heart goes out to you and third.
                        Originally posted by badgergirl View Post
                        There are never the right words for these things, that is true, but there is the love you can show rather than say and I am sure that family will appreciate your support. I'm thinking of you and sending love to you and your family.
                        Thanks ladies - and gent. We just got back. The whole Crabbcakes clan went. I barely made it in the door of the funeral home before the waterworks started. We stayed a good while to be sure Third was processing stuff well, even flipping through all the photo albums the little girl's mom has brought along. Just as I thought I had it all together, Third's and Little Girl's preschool teacher from their special-needs school walked in, and it happened all over again. It was in this teacher's class that the two met, right after our move to OH.

                        Afterwards the six of us ambled down the block to the Depot (real train depot, now renovated into a cafe and bar) to process emotions over huge baskets of sweet potato fries. Since there was a high school cheerleading party in the main cafe, we commandeered almost all the chairs that belly up to the bar in the back. First swiped the tv remote, and since we were the only ones in the bar, she changed both TVs to HGTV. That carb load doesn't help the waistline, but it sure helped overall.

                        Now First and Second are on their way with hubby to church, where there is a teen Sunday School movie night going on. Theme - the afterlife. Movie - "What Dreams May Come", the Robin Williams flick. Gotta love the UU.
                        I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                        • As someone who has been in that Mom's position, I can tell you that your showing up and letting her know that her daughter was loved and mattered means everything. Continue to contact her in the months to come either by phone or a card and let her know that her daughter will not be forgotten.

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                          • Originally posted by Mud Flinger View Post
                            As someone who has been in that Mom's position, I can tell you that your showing up and letting her know that her daughter was loved and mattered means everything. Continue to contact her in the months to come either by phone or a card and let her know that her daughter will not be forgotten.
                            Good grief, Mud Flinger, I am truly so sorry! But I will take your advice. It won't be hard, because we won't forget her.
                            I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                            • Hello Journal!

                              Well, school for Third has been cancelled today due to icy road conditions. It was cancelled last week twice - on Wednesday for frigid temps, and Friday for an impending snowstorm that turned out to be just a few inches of snow. But that is okay - at this time in the winter, all we really want to do is hibernate a lot, punctuated by playing in the snow and perhaps the odd run into town to get victuals. And being a multiple-disabilities school and all, it means that Third is missing nothing. Well, I truthfully cannot say "nothing", but learning and progress for those kids is measured in extemely long time frames, so three days missing from something that could often almost be measured in geologic time spans doesn't rate.

                              I ate some Doritos a couple of days ago, and tooted for an entire evening. Second was really out of joint, hormone poisoning, I think (what the Parents Crabbcakes call those days when the girls are inexplicably emotional, crabby, unforgiving, harping teen Crabbettes), so hubby took her for a drive into town just for some daddy-daughter time, because heaven knows the rest of us weren't good company - she said so. The two of them came back very much more settled and balanced and happy, with a school dance's worth of chip bags - 9, I think.

                              Primal wonder of wonders - I actually pushed them all away after just a short while, as they just weren't the thing any more. This time last year I would have staked my claim to an entire bag of them, shoving my own progeny out of the way in the process. Progress!

                              This weekend we begin a weeklong stay at the Unschooler's conference. These crazies hold their conferences at a huge waterpark, and call the men's gathering "SSUDS"... the Secret Society of Unschooling Dads. And they hold their meetup right on the very first evening - in the resort bar. Honest. Hubby went last year and said nobody got drunk and they all had a pleasant guy-time shooting the breeze about whatever (this being an Unschooler event, you never know who will feel compelled to talk about what...).

                              The Kids Crabbcakes are ecstatic - this will be our third consecutive (and total) visit. Last year upon departure day we had such long faces and nearly open rebellion at the thought of leaving. But if Papa doesn't pay for more time, they do eventually throw you out, and faced with this reality, the Crabblettes relented and got into the van for the trip home. Albeit with wet heads - they threw themselves back into the waterpark after hotel room checkout because rules allow you into the waterpark later than checkout time and they were not going to let one minute go unused.

                              Also at this time last year, I was a number of belt holes bigger around the waist, so yay for Primal there! I didn't go into the water much because I was too self-conscious about my fleshy figure, in a one-piece suit, even. Still will wear the uni, but might just consider getting wet more this year.

                              So, journal, until the next!
                              I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                              • Well done on knowing your limits and stopping quickly. Very useful life skills and I am envious!
                                I like badgers, books and booze, more or less in that order.

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