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  • #46
    Yes, I did lose a little weight between the two avatars, about 10 pounds I would guess. The old one was from my niece's wedding, at the end of last year, and the new one is only a few days old. I have not been a fast loser lately, but that's okay. There are few areas in which "Slow and steady wins the race" is more true than weight loss. When I lose my motivation, I stall, but I don't pack it back on.

    Congrats on your progress. And for getting started on wall pushups. We all have to start somewhere.

    I'm not a great fan of liver either. I do have one recipe I've been making for years and which my kids all loved (!) which I'll be making in a few days. Hubby's been asking for it. It's for chicken liver. I do eat beef or pork liver occasionally, but more out of a sense of duty. I'm getting better at preparing it.
    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
    - Lewis Mumford

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    • #47
      Funny, I remember liking chicken livers as a kid, now that I think about it. Paleobird posted a recipe for liver pate that I might try - heck, I used to eat braunschweiger so it can't be that much worse!

      I think I am now doing a leptin reset experiment. I read a bunch about it last night, got up this morning and had a huge (for me) breakfast at 6:30am. Two eggs and a tin of kippers plus my usual coffee. I had to make myself eat it... but then I didn't want lunch until 6 hours later. I read a bunch on the Jack Kruse site yesterday - he gives a lot to sift through, wish it were more organized for someone coming in late to the party. Interesting though. I read Mark's blog posts on the subject tonight and they cleared up some things for me. I appreciate his accessible style.

      <yawn> Seems to make me look forward to bed too! Not lethargic, but very not-wound-up.
      My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

      "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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      • #48
        A quick post before I log off the computer - I'm trying to shut off the electronics earlier in the hopes of improving my sleep.

        The leptin reset thing is harder than I expected. This morning the idea of eating so much was just "blargh" so I had my usual bacon and eggs and coffee at 6:30. I was *hungry* at 10:30 so I had lunch, then didn't eat again for 8 hours. That was a surprise!

        My new plan is to spend a week or two getting used to eating a normal breakfast so early, and then gradually increase the amount of food. I've improved the primality (is that a word?) of my meals too - a little bit of goat cheese occasionally and cream in my coffee of course, but no other dairy, and no taste for fruit at all, which is good because I don't need the sugar.

        I cooked some awesome coconut ginger garlic chicken the other day. Also discovered that grass fed ground beef is excellent topped with salt, pepper and chopped avocado. Tomorrow I shop, I may ask the butcher for broth bones and some fat to render.

        Oh yes, and this morning I felt like taking a half-hour walk before work... what a surprise! Perhaps my adrenals are picking up steam finally.
        My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

        "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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        • #49
          Yesterday I ate a big chicken-walnut-romaine salad from a restaurant for lunch - should have asked them to hold the walnuts which turned out to be CANDIED, limit the cranberries as they put on 1/4 cup, and switch the punishingly sweet strawberry vinaigrette for something/anything else. This morning I feel like crap. But it's good this happened, because next weekend I have a 3-day work seminar from 9am-9pm and I won't be able to control what I eat unless I pack all my food. Which I may just do.

          On the plus side of things, I've lost 2 lbs in the past week after 6 weeks of stall. Maybe the leptin reset WOE is doing something, not enough data to evaluate yet.
          My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

          "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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          • #50
            Gave up on the leptin reset for a few days. I may try it again, I haven't decided. I just don't like to eat so much so early in the day.

            On the positive side, I just checked my exercise records and I have walked anywhere from 30 mins to 2 hours for 7 out of the last 8 days. This is amazing progress. A month ago a walk around the block was all I could do and that not every day.

            Sleep is still not good though. I woke up at 5am today, couldn't go back to sleep, then accidentally took an hour-long nap at 5pm. Now it's after 11pm and I am wide awake. This may not bode well for tomorrow and I have a busy day planned. Oh well.
            My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

            "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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            • #51
              Busy week, but a good kind of busy. My energy level still fluctuates wildly but is improving bit by bit. Had a brief BP spike but I know what caused it and it calmed down with magnesium and rest. And I just put 3 more bags of TOO BIG clothes in the car to drop off at Goodwill tomorrow. Although my weight hasn't changed much, suddenly my shape has changed. And my face looks noticeably thinner.

              I've been very consistent with using the Primal Journal - my morning starts with a cup of coffee and the journal. I log what I ate the day before, sleep, activity, etc. I'm hoping some patterns will emerge that I can use to speed up the improvements. It's not my nature to be patient, but I'm being forced into it!

              No problems staying primal on food intake. The next challenge will be a three-day work seminar where I either bring all my food for the day or gamble on salads from the venue. I think I'll be cooking and packing my meals and snacks.
              My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

              "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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              • #52
                OK - Day 1 of the three-day seminar is behind me and I did pretty well. I ran out of time to cook breakfast so had a coconut avocado smoothie for breakfast, it was good but I was nibbling on nuts and blueberries mid-morning (the only provided snack I was willing to eat) since lunch was almost 6 hours later.

                Lunch was primal meat loaf with green beans, dinner was cilantro ginger chicken with roasted root vegetables. All delicious. I did eat 2 Hershey's kisses of the dozen that were left on my table and they were NASTY. Today I'm also taking some Lindt 90% dark chocolate, my favorite. No one looked at me like I was a dork and several women admired my cute insulated bag.

                I was really tired and not so smart by the evening but held up better energy-wise than I thought I would. The schedule didn't give much time for play or moving but I did walk around outside during the breaks which helped. Off to have another primal day shortly!
                My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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                • #53
                  Whew, I got through the rest of the weekend OK and spent today recovering. Three 13-hour days in a row were taxing; and I did eat a few M&Ms... why did they have to pile candy on the tables? I do just fine if it's not in front of me, so I should have just swept it all off my table and let someone else deal with it! The best day was the one where I had salmon and spinach for breakfast - yum, I could eat that every day.

                  Now I am planning a trip to see friends and need to be ready with food I can carry. My whole foods store has coconut manna in single-serve packages - I'm betting that will handle the hungries at 30,000 feet. Also I discovered I looove macadamia nuts so a bag of those in my purse will be helpful.

                  Btw it's storming like crazy outside; booming and flashing and raining sideways. I love a good storm.
                  My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                  "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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                  • #54
                    Hi Wren, it sounds like you did pretty well with that conference, all in all. I have to admit, I don't think I could handle 3 13-hour days. The eating would be less of an issue, but I'm still not feeling well enough to handle long days like that, especially back-to-back.
                    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                    - Lewis Mumford

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                    • #55
                      Hey Judg - good be back for a quick check-in. Yes, I was whimpering at the end of those days and worked from bed for the next couple of days but then I had to get ready to go out of town.

                      I'm on my way back home after a week seeing family. Eating Primal was a challenge especially for the 2 1/2 days I stayed with my in-laws - everything was cooking in or slathered with Blue Bonnet (or both). But the garden veggies were delicious. Got lots of slow exercise too which I really enjoyed... more so than the slow driving through construction on the trip back to the airport!

                      I had a slightly alarming bout of heart palpitations and high BP today so I am glad to be on my way back home where I can rest and eat better. And I seriously miss my kitties. I'm lounging in a nice hotel room half an hour from the airport and plan to go to bed primally early.
                      My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                      "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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                      • #56
                        Oh dear. I do hope you get a good chance to recover.

                        My Italian MIL has taken to baking a few sweet potatoes at family dinners so I can put her tomato sauce on that instead of pasta. The rest gets shared out, of course. I do close my eyes to the fact that things are fried in vegetable oil, and I'll have a few slices of breaded zucchini, but apart from that, I just pass on things I don't want to eat. There's always a good variety and she has no objection if I just take something else from the fridge, which I rarely do. I guess I'm spoiled that way.

                        I do try to let people know about my new eating habits if I'm invited over. Not in detail, but I do tell them I won't be eating any grain products and avoid sugar in all but the smallest amounts. I figure that's covering the main bases. If it's to the point that it's giving you heart palpitations, maybe you should request a couple of changes the next time.

                        Anyway, do try to rest up and take good care of yourself for a while.
                        5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                        Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                        Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                        More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                        - Lewis Mumford

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                        • #57
                          Thanks - I have been mostly resting today. I think it was all the driving and not enough rest periods as much as the bad food. If I have to travel again, I'll bring some of my own food! I love these folks dearly and would like to expose them to a little primal knowledge (or a lot). They were impressed with my weight loss which is more visible than I realized. Sad to say but people respond more to cosmetic changes I think.

                          The scale is up a couple of pounds but I'm not freaking out, could be largely water (flying does that to me) plus the non-primal fare. Today I am really enjoying my usual meals. Salmon and spinach for supper!
                          My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                          "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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                          • #58
                            Well, the cosmetic changes are visible, and therefore affect them directly. The health benefits are basically for you alone, or the people who live with the changes.

                            DD was impressed primarily by seeing me sprint for the first time in her life. That alone convinced her that primal was a good thing for me.
                            5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                            Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                            Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                            More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                            - Lewis Mumford

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                            • #59
                              OK, I am all excited today. I signed up at a new local co-op that offers lots of primal choices and my first order arrives this weekend. I will have grass-fed beef, oxtails, and lots of bones for broth. (I've never eaten the marrow but I'll try it.) Also fresh cream and yogurt. And I learned a little about making kombucha from a friend and really want to try it. I had some yesterday and felt rather energized afterwards.

                              I've also started drinking reishi tea thanks to a friend who told me it might help with the whole adrenal thing. Tastes rather strong, but not awful. Apparently it's been used in Chinese medicine for millenia.

                              I'm about caught up from the trip, I think. I need to start taking evening walks again, now that temperatures have started to drop a bit. I guess I'm becoming a Floridian, anything below 80 degrees feels cool!
                              My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                              "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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                              • #60
                                LOL! I get like that by the end of the summer around here, too. Although for me the cut-off point is 25 Celsius, which is a bit below 80F. I know this is supposed to be the frozen north, but this is a muggy town in the summer and by this time of year, I am usually yearning for autumn crispness, especially after the very hot summer we had this year. No crispness in the forecast yet, but the 14-day outlook is calling for a couple of cool days, i.e. up to room temperature. I am so looking forward to that.

                                Everybody raves about kombucha. I've never had it. And I envy you your food coop. I haven't found anything workable around here. The weekly orders are too big for me on my own, and with DS gone again, I just don't see how I can eat that much food.
                                5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                                Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                                Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                                More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                                - Lewis Mumford

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