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  • #31
    Had a really good productive day. Doc visit was good, he is very impressed with my results so far. But I still have an arrhythmia so only the mildest possible exercise and no pushing myself. In a couple of weeks we will do some allergy testing (food, herbs, meds, environmental exposure) to see if that's a factor behind the fatigue.

    B - 3oz smoked whitefish, 1/2 avocado, coffee with cream
    S - 1T coconut manna
    L - Applegate Farms chicken & apple sausage, 1oz mozzarella
    D- 6oz grassfed beef 1/2c tomato sauce
    8+c water with sea salt and stevia

    I'm thinking about getting the new PB journal. Of course this is a journal too, I just think it would be cool to use and track my progress in that form - we'll see.
    My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

    "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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    • #32
      Sounds like some useful testing. Have you checked out Dr. Myhill's website? Lot of good info there for CFS sufferers. (Sorry, I can't remember if you said you had CFS or not.)
      5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
      Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
      Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

      More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
      - Lewis Mumford

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      • #33
        Hi Judg, thanks for the info on Dr. Myhill - interesting site, I will definitely spend more time there. I was diagnosed by an internist as having CFS in 1999 but gradually recovered 80% of my health over the next 5 years. Since what I experienced then was similar to now, my guess is that it's all related. I don't have the constant infections (bronchial, bladder) now that I did then, but then I had no cardiac symptoms and those were what brought me to the doctor more recently. Ah well, I care less about the name than I care about answers that work!

        B - 1c whole fat yogurt with 2T almond meal, coffee with cream
        L - 1/2 Applegate Farms chicken & apple sausage, 1/2 oz mozzarella, 1/4 avocado
        S - 5 felafel chips with cream cheese, 1T cashew butter
        D - 1 egg, 3oz organic pork sausage

        Was a strange work day, I couldn't really take a break to fix something properly. Then tonight I had no idea what I wanted so I had breakfast for dinner (minus the coffee). Anyway it's all still working for me.
        My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

        "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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        • #34
          Made a food mistake today that I won't repeat. Being summer, I really miss ice cream, so I tried something called Arctic Zero. Low calorie, low carb, but has mannitol in it and 1/2 of a serving gave me very upset insides. Ugh. Plus the flavor wasn't very good. Oh well, it was an experiment.

          B - 1 egg, 2oz pork sausage, coffee with cream
          S - cappucino
          L - Applegate Farms chicken & apple sausage, 1 oz mozzarella, falafel chips
          S - no-good ice cream substitute
          D - 1c whole fat yogurt which was all I could stomach after the failed experiment.
          8+c water with sea salt & stevia

          Worked most of today, am looking forward to a short workweek with the holiday. Cat2 is adorable but keeps trying to help me type so if I ever post something like alfdgpignadfbg you'll know why.
          My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

          "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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          • #35
            Make blender treats to replace ice cream. Start with frozen fruit chunks, add cream (if you want it to be creamy), sweeten with stevia or some unrefined sugar. A frozen banana smoothie with cocoa powder added, made so thick you need a spoon to eat it, is a wonderful substitute for ice cream and feels like a full-fledged indulgence. Or you can be really virtuous and use berries and almond milk. That's more like sherbet than ice cream, but the satisfaction factor is still nice and high.

            The other day I used frozen watermelon chunks, one fresh Bosc pear, and coconut milk with a bit of stevia. It was great. I love feeling virtuous and spoiled at the same time.

            I'm impressed that you were able to recover so well from CFS in the past. Very few people manage that. I hope to become one of those very few people.
            5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
            Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
            Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

            More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
            - Lewis Mumford

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            • #36
              Judg, thanks for the suggestions. Yesterday I made a smoothie with 1/2c each frozen blueberries and unsweetened coconut milk, plus 1T heavy cream and a little stevia. It scratched the ice cream itch pretty well! Perhaps eventually I will just get an ice cream maker to make my own with stevia.

              I haven't felt like logging food the past few days but have stayed primal. Except today at a get-together with friends I ate one hot dog with the bun and some trifle that had ladyfingers and sugar, along with tons of fresh berries and some whipped cream. It was delicious and I don't regret it a bit!

              It was a really great day. I finally had the energy to tackle a big project at home - moving around things in the living room to make better use of the space. It took me 4 hours because I'd work for 15 minutes, then take a break for 30, but I got it done and am very pleased with the results. Now I have to order the journal before the special ends.

              Hope everyone in the US had a nice Fourth!
              My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

              "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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              • #37
                Been too busy to post which is good. My energy level is definitely improving and heart rate has been around 80bpm for the past two days instead of +100 which is great. I am going to start taking walks this weekend. My next goal is to have no wild heart and BP response to the Raglands test.

                I am really getting into fixing up my house. I finally feel like owning the space - we'd only lived here a few months before DH began his final slide towards death, so I was fulltime caregiving and then fulltime grieving and recovering from that for the next 12 months, then dealing with my own health issues. I am beginning to feel more normal for the first time in ages - really nice.

                I try reading some of the more contentious threads here but I am no expert and I don't want to debate the subject. The way I am doing PB is working well so far. I did order the new journal and am looking forward to using it, right now my data on what I'm doing is a little scattered. My hope is that it will make it easier to spot what works for me.

                Highlight of the day - avocados 10 for $10 at the store tonight.

                Plans for the weekend - spend time with friends, go check out the new organic foods co-op, work some, finish phase 1 of the house project, and laze around with the cats. Oh yeah, and take walks.
                My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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                • #38
                  Feeling normal, what a blessed luxury! So happy for you.
                  5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                  Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                  Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                  More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                  - Lewis Mumford

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                  • #39
                    Wow, been days since I've posted. Super-busy couple of days, we had a big software conversion over the weekend and I worked about half the time. My energy level is definitely improving, went out for a walk tonight for the first time in two months. Cardiac symptoms are 98% gone - YAY! The only oddity is that sometimes my BP drops to 100/60-ish which does not feel good. Taking some sea salt normalizes it. No BP spikes, no palpitations, no tachycardia, no angina. With NO meds involved. WIN.

                    I've been taking melatonin for sleep for the past 10 days and tried doubling the amount a few days ago. Boy, have I been sleeping! 8 hours+, usually wake up once for a pee break but I go right back to sleep. Getting restful sleep = priceless.

                    Oddly, the weight loss which had been so steady for 2 months has stopped dead at the same time my energy picked up. Not sure why but I am not freaking out about it. I'm thinking about doing the Whole 30 thing in a couple of weeks, just to shake it up a bit. This WOE is now totally normal and comfortable. Next big step - regularly lifting some heavy (for me) objects.
                    Last edited by Wrenwood; 07-11-2012, 05:41 PM. Reason: typo
                    My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                    "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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                    • #40
                      Hi Wren. I have enjoyed reading your journal. It seems like you are doing well. Sorry to hear about your cat, it is always sad when we lose a furry family member.

                      Judg, thanks for sharing the paleotrack site. I like it, although it probably does not like my cheating ways!

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                      • #41
                        Jeez, I haven't been here in over a week! I still browse the forum almost every day though; just got my journal in the mail so it's time to fit that into the routine.

                        Had a birthday this week, celebrated with a lovely serving of gelato. Not primal but hey, delicious. I have one square of very dark chocolate most days too, it's barely above baking chocolate in sweetness but I love the taste. If I really want a treat, I put a little almond butter on it - YUM. I'm gradually wanting less of dairy and the falafel chips (no matter how I spell that word, it looks wrong) that were my other indulgence. No grains. No sugar. More salads recently. And I scored a large supply of really good, thick-cut bacon that is awesomely good.

                        It's really strange that my weight has been exactly the same for 2+ weeks now, but my clothes are getting noticeably loose. I can't figure that one out but it's OK with me. Now wearing size 12 pants, was a 14 or 16 when I started. So that's nice. I've been walking every few days, sometimes for up to 2 hours intermittently. Perhaps that's what's causing the shrinkage.

                        PrimalPumpkin, thanks for the kind words about Cat. Are you a pet parent too? I went right out and adopted another one who is ridiculously adorable, and so happy to have a home and be loved (he was a shelter rescue) that he makes up for the loss. Cat#1 was a stray who showed up in my yard, starving, filthy, and hollering at the top of his lungs for an owner. How could I say no? He barely had a year with me but it was a sweet one.
                        My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                        "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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                        • #42
                          Good primal weekend - spent about 3 hours just walking around over the last couple of days, felt really good to be moving. I still have to take it slow and rest often, but it's still an improvement.

                          I just went through three bags of my clothes from storage, and there are a bunch of things in there to try on. Yay, shopping without spending money.

                          I also found out I've been overcooking the grassfed beef (someone posted a link to Eat Wild yesterday - thanks, whoever you were!) and tonight's burgers with pico de gallo and sour cream were delicious. Made a smoothie for lunch with coconut milk, blueberries and half an avocado - it had great staying power with all that yummy fat.

                          No change on the weight loss front. I've been reading through the new journal to decide on what changes I want to experiment with and track. I have this fantasy where I can do at least one pull-up and I'm considering where I could put a bar in my house. DH used to hang from the hallway vent into the attic space but he was a LOT taller than me - I will come up with something. I still have his weights too, no way I can lift them properly but I could just move them from room to room periodically for a good workout.

                          Perhaps I'll try on some clothes tonight for motivation!
                          My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                          "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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                          • #43
                            So I tried on clothes the other night. Doubled my laundry with things I can wear now that haven't fit in 2+ years - yay!

                            Had an excellent primal day - I had been extra-hungry for several days and realized yesterday that I had gradually made the evening meal my largest. Before I was eating most of my calories before 3pm - switched back to that and it made a big difference.

                            The adrenal situation seems to be steadily improving too. I'm not ready to go throw truck tires around in the yard or run sprints on the beach barefoot, but I can work a full day and then go for a walk steadily for 20-40 minutes without having to rest which is a major increase in energy.

                            Life is so much better than it was when I first stumbled in here.
                            My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                            "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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                            • #44
                              Wren, I'm so glad to hear you're making such good progress. And it's interesting that you find it works better for you to eat earlier. There was another woman on here who found the precise opposite. Just goes to show there's no one size fits all.
                              5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                              Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                              Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                              More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                              - Lewis Mumford

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                              • #45
                                Hi Judg, thanks! Cute profile pic too, you look liked you've lost more weight.

                                Yes, although I have been frustrated recently by the slow speed of recovery, I am definitely doing better bit by bit. However he past week has been just horrible for sleep - I wake up after 5 -6 hours and have a hard time getting back to sleep - which tends to make me a slug. I may be in bed by 9pm tonight since I woke up at 4:52am! So I ran around with my sister for several hours today and wore out my feet, hoping I'll be really tired tonight.

                                I started using the Primal Blueprint journal at the beginning of August and also wrote down all my measurements, body fat %, bone mass etc (my scale calculates those). I plan to compare it all at the start of September and see what I accomplished. It also helped me realize that I spend very little time on anything that counts as Play. So I am making a conscious effort to increase that (without turning it into work!)

                                Today I did 10 wall pushups for the first time. Seeing as I couldn't do one on the floor, and would last about 2 seconds in a plank, that's a start.

                                Still doing fine eating primally. I cut out almond butter over a week ago and have no more desire for the felafel chips. I wish I could bring myself to eat organ meats, I just can't get past the squick factor even though I think they would be good for me. Probably some childhood trauma relating to liver holds me back. Ah well.
                                My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                                "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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