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  • #91
    Hey Jac, just caught up on the last few pages.

    My thoughts on ketosticks - I remember reading that no to low readings on the sticks are really not indicative of anything other than how many ketones are being used by your body. If you're eating sub 30g of carbs daily, you ARE producing and metabolising ketones for energy, there's no other way you'd survive. However if you use all those ketones, there won't be any left to spill over into the urine. So, long story short - urine ketone measurements don't really tell you much. Better to eat vlc and not bother about torturing yourself with yet another measuring tool that doesn't accurately reflect what's going on (bathroom scales anyone!?).
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    • #92
      I'm using serum ketone levels - it's about the only genuine measure I've been able to find that is independent of water weight and bloating. I'm tracking weight as well to see what correlations there are between ketone levels and scale. Also, so far ketosis has meant more energy, better sleep and fewer IBS symptoms. I'm tracking those as well. So far I'm not tracking macros, just limiting my carbs to veges and choosing more fat when it's practical and palatable. There's loads of room for tweaking! It could take 2 weeks to get fully into ketosis, though.

      Weight = 88.4kg

      Ketones = 0.4mmol/L
      Started Feb 18 2011

      Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

      Journalling here

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      • #93
        Ah I see. As you were then.
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        • #94
          Hey Jac, how you doing my girl? I hope dunedin went well, or is that next week ?
          I'm on a bit of a stall at present. Not going up, so that is positive ! Am really trying to adjust my ratios to lose this fat !!!!
          We shall overcome ........ have the best day
          "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

          ...small steps....

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          • #95
            Dunedin is this coming Tuesday, thanks Gwamma

            Also, I do appreciate the interest in my experiment and my life, Em and Louisa!! I really am serious when I say that counting things tends to make me feel bad. I get really tense when I start, so I avoid it. If this way of eating doesn't pan out, though, I'll have to resort to counting to get more information about what to tweak.

            My appetite has tanked - I had a small coconut oil/coconut flakes/dark chocolate/raw cacao thing (from a batch I made last week) at about 1pm, then pork and pumpkin at about 7.30pm. I am experiencing hunger as a non-urgent sensation - very different.

            I didn't weigh this morning. Ketones tonight were 0.3mmol/L. That's still pretty low, as in a normal level for waking up in the morning. It's been 6 days since I got back from Darwin, and it can take as long as 2 weeks to get back into deep ketosis. It's hard to wait, though .

            I need to try and find out whether eating too little can impact on ketosis. I know people talk about fasting in order to get into and stay in ketosis, but maybe you need to be properly in it first??
            Started Feb 18 2011

            Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

            Journalling here

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            • #96
              All the best Jac. You will enjoy Dunedin. I was there as a student way "back in the day". Best time of my life. However what goes on camp stays on camp
              Anyway enjoy and keep us posted on the deep ketosis. I am interested, very interseted, and I have had a couple of pinots !!!!!!!
              so am slurring my words !!!!!!
              I think best that I head to bed !!!!!!
              "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

              ...small steps....

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              • #97
                This is a very informative article on the subject. Interesting to note that fasting for 12-24 hours will lead to levels around 0.3. If you are on a high-fat diet you will get closer to 3.

                So maybe your hypothesis is correct, maybe you are eating too little, sounds like you may need to ramp up the fat intake if you want to push yourself into deeper ketosis.
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by NourishedEm View Post
                  This is a very informative article on the subject. Interesting to note that fasting for 12-24 hours will lead to levels around 0.3. If you are on a high-fat diet you will get closer to 3.

                  So maybe your hypothesis is correct, maybe you are eating too little, sounds like you may need to ramp up the fat intake if you want to push yourself into deeper ketosis.
                  Yeah, you're right. That was a good article, and it led me to other sites . . . another morning spent on the net and not working . Now I'll have to take work home with me!

                  I had to record this, though - had a crappy sleep, tired and unfocused this morning, and very thirsty. I think this relates to having too little to eat and drink yesterday.

                  On the brighter side, I made some mayonnaise out of lemon juice, egg and avocado oil, which turned out pretty nice - I had that on my pork dinner last night, and I also had a cocoa with coconut cream to bump up the fat. This morning I skipped breakfast (because fuzzy-brain + tiredness = not getting my shit together in time to eat!), but have just had more pork and pumpkin coated with the mayo. In addition to eating more, I think I'm also still a bit fat-phobic (although if I could eat butter and cream I don't think there'd be a problem . High fat without dairy takes a bit more focus).

                  Weight this morning was 88.2. Another loss, but my fingers were too puffy to wear my engagement ring and I don't feel thin today. Onwards and upwards!

                  Gwamma, I lived in Dunedin for just over 10 years, and did my Masters degree there! It's OK as a city, but I'm definitely not looking forward to the temperatures!

                  Em, I think I'm coming to Perth next April (Tony has a conference there, and I'll tag along like a good wife ). I'd love to meet you!

                  Edited to add that I seem to be an exclamation mark obsessive today. Note to self, be a bit more controlled tomorrow!!!!!!!!

                  Edited again: ketones tonight 0.6mmol/L. I had more food today, but still less than I would have eaten on more carbs.
                  Last edited by Jac; 09-03-2012, 01:37 AM.
                  Started Feb 18 2011

                  Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                  Journalling here

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Jac View Post
                    Em, I think I'm coming to Perth next April (Tony has a conference there, and I'll tag along like a good wife ). I'd love to meet you!
                    It's a date. I'll take you to Lapa for a primal feast.
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                    • Originally posted by NourishedEm View Post
                      It's a date. I'll take you to Lapa for a primal feast.
                      Oh Yuurmm. I'm looking forward to it!

                      Weight this morning was 88kg. That's cause for a big happy dance . Could it be that this ketosis thingy is working? If it is, it's the first controlled process I've ever had success with. And it's very kind on my gut.

                      I head for Dunedin this afternoon. I have a biiiig lunch to eat later; pork and stir fried veges, all fried up in coconut oil. I also have a couple of the coconut bark things. Eating all that through the day should get me there - we're flying/at airports from just before 3pm until just after 8pm. Dinner just won't be happening. Once there, I have some tins of coconut milk and salmon for the first day, and can have eggs for breakfast. I'm planning to get to the supermarket and stock up on more coconut milk and some of the less 'additive-laden' ham. Tony gently told me that I wouldn't be able to stay in ketosis while we are away - that's just made me more determined to do it, the little bastard . And no, he's hopeless at reverse psychology so it's not a clever move on his part - he's just worried that I'll get really pissed at him because his mother is an irritating busybody who won't adapt anything for me. Fair enough, I am the older woman who stole 'her boy' away and corrupted him .

                      I won't be weighing again til next week - probably Tuesday. That's a good thing, I think. I don't want to tie my motivation to the scale - but it surely helps when the numbers are good, lol. I've got the keto-metre, though and will keep measuring. I may not get the privacy to post again until I get home. Catch ya later!
                      Started Feb 18 2011

                      Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                      Journalling here

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                      • Very quick post on MILs computer, while she's out, lol.

                        First night, ketones .4, next night .2 (after a day of eating almost nothing as there was nothing I could eat, and was teaching so couldn't get to the shop), .2 last night, in spite of my best efforts. I just can't get fat!! There's nothing except canola oil and margarine in the house, and what we're eating doesn't lend itself to adding olive oil if I went and bought some. I guess I could have done EVOO shots, but didn't think of it til just now!! So the only fat I'm getting is attached to meat (after it's been trimmed). This is fucking hard .

                        I'm stopping the dual focus on eating clean and also low carb/high fat. If I can eat clean until I get home late Sunday, I'll count it a success. But it won't be.

                        Gotta go - I'll check back in on Monday . . .
                        Started Feb 18 2011

                        Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                        Journalling here

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                        • Jac, all the very best of luck for this weekend.
                          I look forward to hearing about your success at staying in ketosis next week

                          Gwamma
                          "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                          ...small steps....

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                          • Hey Jac, you are doing it hard, I feel for you. Well done to stay eating clean so far, I hope you manage to keep it up. Are eggs an option? Best wishes, A.
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                            • I'm back home. It's the middle of the night, and I can't sleep. The last week has had some good stuff but on balance it's been a pretty horrible time. Please excuse me while I have a rant.

                              On our way south, we travelled from mid-afternoon til mid-evening. My mother in law, who has known for many years that I get really ill if I eat dairy, left some food out for us (she was at work when we arrived). She left muffins - made with milk and butter. Then throughout the time we stayed with her she continually offered me cakes and sweets, all made with dairy. She forces me to continually refuse food. I went to the supermarket to get something I could eat, because on the second day there, having skipped dinner the night before and gone to work without breakfast or lunch, I was starving by 4.30. She got upset with my husband, saying that we were probably going out to eat a pie and ruin our dinner.

                              I try really, really hard to be tolerant. I don't tend to take it personally if there isn't food I can eat, and I recognise that paleo is a choice. But being dairy free isn't a choice. I feel upset and angry - and if I refuse to stay with her next time we travel south, she'll hassle my husband. She doesn't do it in a way that you can fight with, though - it's just subtle and relentless disappointment and pressure. This time, though, I'm experiencing her behaviour as deliberately nasty. I'm not shaking it off and relaxing into my home life again - hence being up at this hour and dwelling on it.

                              Politicking and ass-licking is also making itself known at work - and I just can't be bothered. Yet it's upsetting me. I'm so over it all!!! I loathe this feeling of being tense and angry, and can't decide if I want to have a brawl with someone, or shrug and move on. I generally shrug - it's other people's crap, not mine. Today, I seem to be taking it on board. I also know, though, that if I don't get a handle on it then it'll overflow into other parts of my life. I really don't want that to happen.

                              In the last week I've had a fully blown IBS flare, and have exacerbated it with wine, sugar, and tension. I feel very bloated right throughout my abdomen, and have been surviving on anti-spasmodics and anti-inflammatories. My head and heart both feel very heavy, my feet hurt, I'm tired and sleepless, and I generally feel toxic.

                              Part one of my IBS management plan for when it's way out of control is to eat white rice. It fills the bowel gently, and helps the spasms to get less intense and more focused. I did that tonight, so I'm feeling full but OK.

                              Part two is relaxation. I'll go back to bed soon and listen to a tape while I practice mindful breathing. It's a start.

                              Part three is to eat carefully. This part will differ from my previous plans, since I want to get back into ketosis. I have a lamb neck stew in the crock pot, some corned beef at work, bacon in the fridge, and coconut bark in the freezer. Finding that I have problems with coconut (the FODMAPs content, I suspect) has been a bummer. But it does explain some of the crashes I've had just when things seem to get on track for me. I know I'm whining, but it seems like my food selection is getting so narrow that I'll be left without any variety at all in my diet. And I'm still fucking fat. How is that fair???

                              Grrrrr. Time to pull myself up by my boot straps and get on with it. I've had one experience of feeling fantastic on ketosis, and I want to get back there again.
                              Started Feb 18 2011

                              Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                              Journalling here

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                              • Jac, we are all there for you girl ! I really hear what you are saying, and my heart goes out to you. You will get through this and you are so right, its their crap - don't take it on board. However sometimes that is easier said than done !
                                I have found that I have been taking on others peoples crap lately, so am trying to step back and enjoy life a little more.
                                anyway thinking of you
                                G x
                                "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                                ...small steps....

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