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  • This is the start of day 4. Hopefully the detox is over, cos it's been a little scary! I haven't focused on anything except for NOT having caffeine and artificial sweeteners. Last time I came off coke zero I substituted with diet lemonade, thinking that I'd transition off that later on. Instead, I ended up transitioning back to the coke.

    This time I stopped cold turkey. I had a bad headache for a couple of days, which was tolerable. Then on night 2 I lay awake almost all night in a sweat, shaking, with my heart pounding - it felt like an adrenaline reaction. I was a bit nauseated and very uncomfortable. It didn't feel like a bug, and I don't see that the wine or bread would have done that to me. If that was detox, it was horrible! So yesterday I felt like a wrung out rag most of the day, but my mind was clear and I was relaxed. Last night I slept peacefully.

    Today I'm off to Auckland again, but have a late-ish start. I'll be able to eat before I leave, and then again at the usual dinner time. I have to remember to take a water bottle with me, though - I've been getting really thirsty! I do miss the fizzy drinks, so might try some carbonated water.

    Just as an aside - I picked up a bottle of something called H2Zero yesterday, which said 'no artificial sweeteners' and 'no fruit juice' on it. It was a fizzy flavoured water. The second ingredient listed was 'fruit flavours', followed by one of the sugar alcohols and then a list of the other sweeteners and flavours. What kind of word games are those, that made the product look (at first glance) like water with a squirt of something harmless in it?? It's a bit of a stretch, I thought.

    Edited to add that in NZ, 'picked up' means I grabbed it to look at - I didn't buy it, or consume it
    Started Feb 18 2011

    Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

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    • Hi Jac,
      Nice to meet a fellow coke zero addict. There again I work with a bloke who drinks 3 times as much as me.he really is an addict. The strange thing is I don't crave diet coke just coke zero. Had a few headaches, but just took 2 paracetamol and feel ok.
      What has helped me is drinking loads of cups of tea.
      I am trying not to drink anything fizzy. Not sure if eating really high fat, with plenty of salt has helped me or not, but strangely I haven't really missed it yet.

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      • This time I stopped cold turkey. I had a bad headache for a couple of days, which was tolerable. Then on night 2 I lay awake almost all night in a sweat, shaking, with my heart pounding - it felt like an adrenaline reaction. I was a bit nauseated and very uncomfortable. It didn't feel like a bug, and I don't see that the wine or bread would have done that to me. If that was detox, it was horrible! So yesterday I felt like a wrung out rag most of the day, but my mind was clear and I was relaxed. Last night I slept peacefully.
        the first time i stopped drinking coffee i had the exact same symptoms. i am just so lucky i dont like coke. i went to a birthday party when i was 6 yrs old and had a whole stack. i was so sick that night. literally threw up 23 times. yes i remember counting lol from that day on, i have never been able to drink coke. i have tried but i just hate it. i use it to clean the toilet if i ever get given any. saves the middle man getting involved! i have never had the nuts to try to OD my kids with coke while they were small but i am the only person i have ever met who has this sort of relationship with the stuff. if you really do have a fizzy drink thing going on, as in you like them, maybe get yourself some water kefir grains? kombucha is another one but it is a mushroom that colonises everything so it could be not so good with food intolerances.

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        • Do you get the Mount Franklin water there? They have a new range of mildly flavoured carbonated mineral waters that are just water and natural fruit flavour - no sugar, sweetener or anything else. They're yum, especially the mixed berry flavour.
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          • Originally posted by seaweed View Post
            i am just so lucky i dont like coke. .
            I totally agree Seaweed. When I was an ambulance officer - guess what we used to get blood off the road ???????

            terrible stuff - it dissolves a rusty nail - thats really scarey - what is it doing to our insides ????

            however I have a brother, actually I have quite a few siblings....and this brother who was top 10 in the WORLD - in tris, back in the day...... loves coke. Swears by the stuff...WTF ?????

            anyway Jac, good on you girl. I so need some inspiration right now...and this has soooo helped !!!!!
            I so hope your detox is over too
            I think that we all need a party ! your place or mine ?????


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            heres the BBQ house. We could so have a party here, open fire, gas hobs, out of the wind.....
            "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

            ...small steps....

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            • Go Jac, your whole 30 off to a good start. Having endured the miserable start, here's hoping things start to go more smoothly from now on and you get enough benefits to make the sacrifices worth your while.
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              • Jac if you can find the Perrier sparkling mineral water with lemon, that is really nice. Having said that, any plain sparkling mineral with just the tiniest dash of Roses lime juice is nice as well.

                Good luck on your whole 30. I need to get a plan and sort myself out again. Totally noticing digestive issues coming back with increased intake of everything bad.

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                • Saturday morning - and still no sodas. The coke isn't such an issue now that the detox part is over. However, I have to stay mindful because getting tired and busy can lead to the 'I deserve it' button getting punched. Yesterday was completely paleo, which is a miracle since I have daughter and 2 granddaughters to stay - and they eat peanut butter sandwiches, chicken nuggets, and lemonade. Yay for me! About 30 more hours til the house is clean again (I give them all the groceries to take away with them), and I have dinner tonight all sorted.

                  The sparkling water is really hitting the spot as being something special, to be savoured. So far I'm having it straight, but the lemon tree is loaded so I'll raid it later. I just wish that dairies stocked the stuff! I'm wondering about getting a soda stream machine, so I can fizz some iced tea . . .

                  I've regained the ketosis weight - oh well. Will see where I am when this whole 30 is over, then re-evaluate . . . again . . .
                  Started Feb 18 2011

                  Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

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                  • Turkish delight after dinner last night . . . . I'm going to have to tackle the sugar demon head on. Just staying off the sweeteners hasn't done the trick yet.

                    Still totally soda free. Day 5!

                    I just had a big fry up of leftover steak, kumara, some onion and banana in coconut oil. Looked messy but tasted wonderful. I loved the sweetness added by the banana - in the past I haven't been able to taste the sweetness in fruit, so that's a win. Only a couple more hours til everyone leaves - I'll be sad, but relieved as well. I love the kids to bits, and also love the quiet life we've crafted for ourselves
                    Started Feb 18 2011

                    Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

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                    • I want coke so badly I feel like I could claw my skin off. Since I stopped I have been almost insatiable in appetite, even knowing that overeating will cause an IBS flare. I eat great meals, really enjoy them, and then go looking for 'something else' within the hour. I also have another headache.

                      Actually, it's not just coke - every single other time I've tried to come off it I've immediately substituted another diet drink - lemonade or ginger ale usually. Today at the supermarket I was eyeing up everything from horrible tasting energy drinks to bread rolls - I just want this feeling to go away!!!!! I'm eating fruit, coconut oil, dark chocolate, drinking lots of water and peppermint tea. Nothing is giving me the sensation that I've eaten what I need. I've been for a walk, watched movies, read some great books, which is all good. I'm sleeping fine. But none of it can distract me from this internal aggravating itch!!

                      My daughter, who has just visited, has a history of what we all thought was dairy intolerance. For some weird reason she didn't have any problems with dairy while she was pregnant, though, so she enjoyed cheese and milk the whole time. That carried on while she was breast feeding, but came back when she weaned. This time I was really surprised that she had milk in her tea . . . turns out it was diet coke that was upsetting her GI tract! When she doesn't have it, like when it would have affected the baby, she doesn't have any problems digesting milk. What's even stranger, though, is that she was drinking diet lemonade when we went out and that didn't do the same thing to her.

                      Edited to add that I looked up how long it takes to detox from the artificial sweeteners, and some sites are reporting 6 weeks or longer! This is day 6 . . .
                      Last edited by Jac; 10-21-2012, 09:04 PM.
                      Started Feb 18 2011

                      Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                      Journalling here

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                      • I want coke so badly I feel like I could claw my skin off. Since I stopped I have been almost insatiable in appetite, even knowing that overeating will cause an IBS flare. I eat great meals, really enjoy them, and then go looking for 'something else' within the hour.
                        food addictions are like this. my relationship with coffee is like this. i stop drinking coffee, white knuckle it out and end up on hell binges of everything else. i can at least get disciplined and get some good decaf as it is the flavour i need. and it is not even the caffeine addiction as i would be willing to bet i couldnt stop drinking coffee and just take caffeine pills and be sweet. there is prob more to it for you than just what is in the coke. does natural cola do it for you? maybe wean yourself off onto a small amount of that if it prevents all the other problems and do it bit by bit.

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                        • Yikes! That sounds like hell! The first thing that came to mind was to try a regular coke and see if it helps. Could it be the caffeine you're withdrawing from? Do you take caffeine from any other source? I know if I suddenly stopped my caffeine intake (from coffee) I would be in a bad way indeed.
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                          • I think it must be the sweeteners, since I've never had this before - every other time I've detoxed I've had a bit of a headache but sorted it by drinking other diet drinks. I don't have any other caffeine, not even tea. Even the almost straight sugar from turkish delight didn't give any relief.

                            Oh, and my body is aching like crazy. I've come this far - can't turn back now! I guess this proves that I've had a bit of an 'issue' with diet drinks, huh?
                            Started Feb 18 2011

                            Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                            Journalling here

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                            • Yeah, I guess so. Ah well, just keep on keeping on then I guess. I hope it passes soon.
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                              • I. Am. Alive. This will pass.

                                A rough night's sleep, with vivid dreams and some temperature control issues. I'm off on another of my driving/meeting days today. I have some hardboiled eggs with mayo, a big bottle of water, some panadol, and a Sookie Stackhouse book on my phone. I'll be sweet.
                                Started Feb 18 2011

                                Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

                                Journalling here

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