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  • meeme,

    yes, I can do the same for you. PM me, and I can give you the run-down of the process, costs, etc.

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    • I think having a race to look forward to is a good idea -- or any kind of goal. I find that it really helps people to stay focused and have fun on the journey. Also, being a data-collector on yourself, it gives you something to measure.

      In other news, I'm psyched about work transitioning to being finished at 3 pm.

      This sets up DH's exercise day for Monday afternoon; DS and I will likely go swimming then so that I can teach DS how to swim. Then on Wednesday evenings I have skating; and then on Friday's we're going to be doing our hiking/adventures again. Sundays will alternate between archery and parkour lessons. Wednesday afternoon DS will have art time with our friend -- they both really enjoy it. And that leaves plenty of open time to just hang out at the park, the beach, and do normal life stuff.

      Go figure that I already make myself busier before I've even finished being busy.

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      • per my first ketostix test, i showed 'mild' ketosis on under 50 grams of carbs per day....i've been adjusting my protein down just a bit to stay near 60 grams, so we'll see what happens...

        made some beef liver pate' cooling in the fridge now....tasted better than my first effort of classic 'liver and onions' but it is extremely RICH, so i'm not sure how much i can eat ....since i'm not eating any kind of cracker, how do you serve your pate'

        i'm thinking of frying up some bacon and adding bacon bits to my next effort....has anyone ever tried bacon with the pate'?

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        • I've been eating a lot of bone marrow lately. It's a wonderfully fat source for ketosis and I swear it makes you feel like you've had a bone marrow transplant eating it. I always mean to keep the "used" bones for soup stock but I don't always succeed because my dog gives me *that look* and I just give in an let him have them. He has such fun slurping up any marrow bits I missed and gnawing off any gristly bits around the outside.
          PB, where do you find marrow bones and how do you cook (and eat) this? i used to pull the marrow out of my chicken drumsticks when i was a kid (turkey as well) and always ate the marrow from the 'round' bone in round steak...not sure how you make an entire meal of this!

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          • Originally posted by zoebird View Post
            I think having a race to look forward to is a good idea -- or any kind of goal. I find that it really helps people to stay focused and have fun on the journey. Also, being a data-collector on yourself, it gives you something to measure.

            In other news, I'm psyched about work transitioning to being finished at 3 pm.

            This sets up DH's exercise day for Monday afternoon; DS and I will likely go swimming then so that I can teach DS how to swim. Then on Wednesday evenings I have skating; and then on Friday's we're going to be doing our hiking/adventures again. Sundays will alternate between archery and parkour lessons. Wednesday afternoon DS will have art time with our friend -- they both really enjoy it. And that leaves plenty of open time to just hang out at the park, the beach, and do normal life stuff.

            Go figure that I already make myself busier before I've even finished being busy.
            I do like geeking out with the numbers. I think "busy" is a natural state of being for you. But then there is frantic work schedule busy and there is fun busy. A good transition.

            Originally posted by mdrive View Post
            per my first ketostix test, i showed 'mild' ketosis on under 50 grams of carbs per day....i've been adjusting my protein down just a bit to stay near 60 grams, so we'll see what happens...

            made some beef liver pate' cooling in the fridge now....tasted better than my first effort of classic 'liver and onions' but it is extremely RICH, so i'm not sure how much i can eat ....since i'm not eating any kind of cracker, how do you serve your pate'

            i'm thinking of frying up some bacon and adding bacon bits to my next effort....has anyone ever tried bacon with the pate'?
            Pate can be served in celery sticks or as the filling in a sandwich of two cucumber slices. The all time best pate delivery device however is a spoon. Yes, it's rich. That's the whole idea. Bacon bits sound good. You can add a lot of things to pate such as capers bell peppers, mushrooms, onions. The possibilities are endless.

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            • Originally posted by mdrive View Post
              PB, where do you find marrow bones and how do you cook (and eat) this? i used to pull the marrow out of my chicken drumsticks when i was a kid (turkey as well) and always ate the marrow from the 'round' bone in round steak...not sure how you make an entire meal of this!
              I get marrow bones from my meat CSA so they are grass fed beef bones. They are cross sections of thigh bone with a little meat clinging around them. You put them in a pan (not a cookie sheet because there will be oil drippage) and roast them in the oven. It is incredibly rich stuff. You really can't eat all that much.

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              • yeah, maybe busy is a natural state for me. lol

                i suppose i just like to be active, but i also like to lay about. perhaps i'm just balanced. LOL

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                • Pate can be served in celery sticks or as the filling in a sandwich of two cucumber slices. The all time best pate delivery device however is a spoon. Yes, it's rich. That's the whole idea. Bacon bits sound good. You can add a lot of things to pate such as capers bell peppers, mushrooms, onions. The possibilities are endless.
                  love capers....normally i would eat pate' on crackers, but a spoon works for me! i also chopped some fresh italian parsley to blend in (btw, i used my cuisinart instead of a blender and it worked beautifully) and some to garnish on top....looks quite pretty, i may serve it with some slice cucumber and tomatoes/balsamic

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                  • I bought some marrow bones and roasted them for lunch. They were long leg bones sawed in half so they had a fat end and a thin end. I roasted them in the oven for about 35 minutes, then poked all the marrow out with a chopstick. This was not at all what I expected it to be. It tasted like just pure fat and was blobby and yellow like pure fat. Left a coating of pure fat on my plate, spoon and lips, too. Just two marrow bones was way more than enough and I felt a little queasy for a while. I think if you could blend it into a liver pate it would be way more tasty than just as it was by itself.
                    Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                    • Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                      I bought some marrow bones and roasted them for lunch. They were long leg bones sawed in half so they had a fat end and a thin end. I roasted them in the oven for about 35 minutes, then poked all the marrow out with a chopstick. This was not at all what I expected it to be. It tasted like just pure fat and was blobby and yellow like pure fat. Left a coating of pure fat on my plate, spoon and lips, too. Just two marrow bones was way more than enough and I felt a little queasy for a while. I think if you could blend it into a liver pate it would be way more tasty than just as it was by itself.
                      You could blend it in anywhere you would like a little extra body and fat like in broth. I bet it would be good in pemmican too.

                      I may be weird but I like it just by itself. It's like eating warm beef flavored butter. It definitely is filling. In fact I think that's what I'll have for dinner tonight. I donated blood this afternoon so I'm sure my marrow could use a little boost.

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                      • Beef flavored butter. Yeah. It did taste different than other fat. Seemed like it should go on something.
                        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                        • well the pate tasted wonderful....extremely rich, but i was able to eat it off the plate with a spoon....my husband tried some and he really liked, but he had his on pumpernickel (toasted) he's not totally convinced of the paleo eating style, he's limiting his carb intake though, he's naturally lean and doesn't seem to have any health issues...

                          the oxtail 'caribbean style' soup turned out extremely well....the only issue is there is a lot of FAT floating on the surface, despite my trimming the excess fat, there is still quite a bit....typically i would 'skim' this off the top, but with paleo is that recommended? for me it would be more of a taste preference to reduce the 'excess' fat

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                          • Bone marrow...I had NO idea it was so delicious! I cooked 3 large prebaked shank bones in the crockpot for approx 18 hours, took out one bone and strained the broth...the marrow from that bone went into a bowl 3/4 full of fresh broth and I used the stick blender...a bit of salt and pepper and I was amazed at how good it was. Wow! I expected to be put off by the texture but there were some lumps that escaped the blender and they didn't bother me at all. Wonderful stuff...and my little dog spent hours enjoying the bone, which he ate the big end off of.
                            A Woman's Place Is In The Revolution.

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                            • Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                              Beef flavored butter. Yeah. It did taste different than other fat. Seemed like it should go on something.
                              Yep, on a spoon, straight into my mouth. Sluuuurp!

                              Originally posted by mdrive View Post
                              well the pate tasted wonderful....extremely rich, but i was able to eat it off the plate with a spoon....my husband tried some and he really liked, but he had his on pumpernickel (toasted) he's not totally convinced of the paleo eating style, he's limiting his carb intake though, he's naturally lean and doesn't seem to have any health issues...

                              the oxtail 'caribbean style' soup turned out extremely well....the only issue is there is a lot of FAT floating on the surface, despite my trimming the excess fat, there is still quite a bit....typically i would 'skim' this off the top, but with paleo is that recommended? for me it would be more of a taste preference to reduce the 'excess' fat
                              If you make it a day in advance you can fridge it and then the fat comes off easily if you want the soup leaner. It makes great cooking fat for other things so don't toss it.

                              Originally posted by meeme View Post
                              Bone marrow...I had NO idea it was so delicious! I cooked 3 large prebaked shank bones in the crockpot for approx 18 hours, took out one bone and strained the broth...the marrow from that bone went into a bowl 3/4 full of fresh broth and I used the stick blender...a bit of salt and pepper and I was amazed at how good it was. Wow! I expected to be put off by the texture but there were some lumps that escaped the blender and they didn't bother me at all. Wonderful stuff...and my little dog spent hours enjoying the bone, which he ate the big end off of.
                              There is something wonderfully Primal about that post meal time as a tribe together with the Wolf Cub gnawing on the bones by the cave fire....

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                              • Hello Paleobird,

                                I too have been quietly following your journal for some time now without posting. I'm so inspired by your journey! You have been through a lot but somehow you came through it all stronger, smarter...and dare I say sexier?! lol! What really impressed me was the fact you reversed your ostepenia! I too was diagnosed with OP and it's very heartening to hear that you kicked that to the curb as well! It seems that many factors contributed to the improvement including your diet and exercise. But is there any one (or more) things you feel directly helped improve your bone density?

                                Thanks for being such a positive force on the forum and for dispensing advice so freely!

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