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  • How are you feeling/doing on your current measurements? Did you get to your goals yet? (I am thinking you did, but I"m having such a blond moment).

    Doing well here. I've been on this process of cycle measurements. I realized that doing it daily was so many weird data points, but I trended along with my cycle.

    Right after menses, my waist is the smallest and I look the leanest. It's likely because the last day or two of menses are serious fasting days. Sometimes I do not eat more than 1000 cals on those days (and I'm still doing normal stuff). I'm usually at 25 inches at the waist then.

    Then, mid-cycle -- right at fertility -- i'm usually eating my "normal" amount of calories and such and I'm measuring in around 25.5-26 (depends upon the month from the looks of things). I still look lean, but it's an interesting difference at my waist.

    Right at the start of menses, I'm usually 26.5-27 inches. It really depends upon the caloric intakes and "indulgences" (such as more potatoes vs less potatoes -- sweet or otherwise) in the day/two before the start of menses.

    What is really interesting from my data collecting (which I just put into my fertility charting) is that when I have a lot of starches in the week before menses, then I'm close to the 27 mark. Whereas, when i have a more "normal" (or mid-cycle) styled eating pattern, I'm closer to the 26 mark.

    For a couple of the past 6 months (literally, 2 of those months), I was eating more normally leading into the cycle, and then having more starches for the first two days of menses, and then the last two days are fasting. My waist would say between 25.5 and 26.5 inches. it would be 25 at the end of menses, and 26 at the mid point, and then 26.5 at the start of menses.

    I'm assuming it's water weight/bloating -- though I have to admit that it feels like nothing at all. I mean, I don't even really know when my period is coming because I have no symptoms. DH says I still get PMS-y about a day or two before.

    What is cool is that if i just contain myself in regards to starches in the week or days before getting started on menses, I should be able to better maintain my "ideal inches." I think moving between a 1.5 inch differential is pretty good.

    I generally consider myself to have a 26 inch waist, and I think that's decent. I'm happy with it. Body fat is still 18-19% according to the calipers, which we do mid-cycle (fertility phase). And I'm weighing it at 126 (surprise) as of last mid-cycle weigh in (which I only do quarterly -- since I don't own a scale so I borrow a neighbors. she thinks i'm funny because I ask to borrow the scale the night before and deliver it back to her before going to work the next morning. LOL

    Anyway, thought this might be interesting for anyone reading/lurking. Robin, I know you're not still in cycles, so you probably hold steady, huh?

    Anyway, data points.

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    • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
      Noo... no "lurking"...
      Then we lady 'lurkers' won't get to see that gorgeous avatar complete with smile and dimple.
      That dimple is cute isn't it?

      Originally posted by Betorq View Post
      Gee thanks. Better w/ maternal unit: She's stopped telling her friends I have her on a "No Carb Diet". She's doing better w/ the lack of bread, pasta & rice. I think on Friday, which marks 2 weeks of "seeking ketosis" w/ my mom, we'll add a small portion of rice to our evening meal, Maybe she'll sleep better & my promise to her that she can eat occassional grains if she wants to, will be kept. The biggest hurdle was keeping her from snacking at night, & on nuts & peanut butter. IT'S SORTA LIKE MANAGING A KID! A 75 y.o. kid who can jump in her car & drive off to eat whatever she can find, lol... She's settled in to things, since I'm doing 95% of the shopping, cooking & dishes too.
      Yep. I was at the grocery store with Dad today and had to keep telling him, "No, you can't have that".

      Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
      It couldn't have been Kenn. He is not that petty.
      Maybe it's because you've been contaminating Grizz's journal?
      Oh, I wouldn't put any level of pettiness beneath kenn. I honestly believe Grizz means well, he's just some combination of deluded and mis-informed. I think he may actually ahve given up on the iodine thread though. Even his regulars were telling him to can it.

      Originally posted by Owly View Post
      Finally caught up on your journal, envying your wealth of fishes. So expensive here. Anyhow, your story is awesome and so is your journal.
      I do love my seafood. Thank you, Owly. I have always admired your posts as being very balanced and thoughtful.

      Originally posted by zoebird View Post
      How are you feeling/doing on your current measurements? Did you get to your goals yet?

      Doing well here. I've been on this process of cycle measurements. I realized that doing it daily was so many weird data points, but I trended along with my cycle.

      Anyway, thought this might be interesting for anyone reading/lurking. Robin, I know you're not still in cycles, so you probably hold steady, huh?
      That's interesting. I never really did have much in the way of cyclical variations even "back in the day". Of course, most of that time I was on the pill also. I never really had any sort of PMS symptoms other than raging horniness and that never seemed to be a problem.

      I'm almost done with the pounds I put on while cruising. Pre-Kilimangaro climbing, when I was training like a fiend, I made it down to 145. Now I seem to be settled in at 150 which was my original goal from my first journal. I could push and get those last five back off but it just doesn't seem to be worth it right now. It is more important to me to share an awesome meal with my Dad.
      Last edited by Paleobird; 07-23-2012, 07:35 PM.

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      • Speaking of meals, I have been lagging on the food porn lately.

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        This was last night. Orange cherry tomatoes (home grown), asparagus, and some ahi in a lemon butter sauce.

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        This was tonight at the Birdnest Diner. Southwest meatloaf (grassfed beef and mexican salsa with a sprinkle of almond meal) and a pretty salad with more tomatoes, mini bell peppers, feta, and two kinds of olives. That was the best avocado. Just the perfect ripeness.

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        Finished off with a nice light dessert, raspberries with raw cream. Sorry if it's a little blurry. I was salivating too much to focus.

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        • Can't go wrong with southwest meatloaf. we should seriously do a meat loaf again. we need to get some kind of meat loaf pan. though, come to think of it, we can probably use our cookie sheet and just shape it up.

          I agree with you regarding those 5 lbs.

          I had to think for myself about whether or not i was concerned about a 2 inch differential over a week (menses) with an average being arund 26.

          Turns out I'm not. At 27, my pants and everything fit fine, if a little loose. Right after those fasting days, they fit looser, but i don't look "baggy" in them. and at 26, it's what I feel is often "just right" -- so I like that.

          I also think it's good to prioritize things. For myself, I do my yoga practice and general walking, but I'm prioritizing getting work done so that I can spend time with the kiddo heading forward. I'll be finishing my days at 3 pm come October (mid Sept if I'm lucky), and we'll be able to do family dinners and get DS ready for bed by 6:30 (story time) and then bed by 7:30 (usually if he's dragging it out, it's until 7:30).

          Once we feel grounded in this, DH and I will have the option of a "night out" each. DH is looking at joining a writer's group; I'm looking at going back to derby.

          That will probably make up any differentials in inches at the waist, but I'm not worried about it. It's mostly about just having a good life, right?

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          • Meatloaf makes for some great leftovers too. The loaf pan really does help keep all the juices from draining away and leaving it too dry. I really wouldn't do it on a cookie sheet.

            Yep, now if I notice my favorite jeans getting snug, I am a little more careful with portions and "goodies" like dark chocolate for a few days and it goes away. I think I have found my new setpoint.

            I also know that my bone density has improved greatly in the last two years from post-chemo osteopenia to being good as new now. I have no idea how much denser bones might contribute to the official number on the scale.
            Last edited by Paleobird; 07-23-2012, 09:17 PM.

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            • Yeah, but it's awesome to have denser bones. Woohoo for bone density!

              Cancer treatment is quite the wreck, but if you can get through it, it's amazing how well the body repairs itself.

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              • Definitely not recommending osteopenia as a weigh loss technique. But it would be interesting to know how much more my bones weigh at full density. I wonder how much difference it makes. Just me geeking out.

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                • I'm sure there's a formula out there to determine it based on "general bone size."

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                  • Welcome back! I've enjoyed your posts/journal. I think maintaining any major lifestyle change is just as hard as starting one, maybe harder. When you're first into a new diet or lifestyle, there's all this "convert's zeal" to help you along. After months or years, that can wear off and one is just mortal again.

                    I find that with anything, eliminating 1 or two vices at a time is more successful than everything all together. I generally have a bit of dark chocolate every day. I've given up a lot of other things but, for now, my little piece is blissfully indulgent and makes me feel human.
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                    • Originally posted by avocadogirl View Post
                      Welcome back! I've enjoyed your posts/journal. I think maintaining any major lifestyle change is just as hard as starting one, maybe harder. When you're first into a new diet or lifestyle, there's all this "convert's zeal" to help you along. After months or years, that can wear off and one is just mortal again.

                      I find that with anything, eliminating 1 or two vices at a time is more successful than everything all together. I generally have a bit of dark chocolate every day. I've given up a lot of other things but, for now, my little piece is blissfully indulgent and makes me feel human.
                      Thank you. Yes, I'm definitely into the maintenance phase weight wise but I haven't stopped having fun with all the yummy foods I get to eat and I don't feel constrained at all by the list of things I can's eat. They have totally lost their appeal, even pizza.

                      I think I may have gotten rid of one of my two vices using the other. Saturday night i went to my monthly Game Night party and , as always there was way too much food and booze involved. Booze, even if it's just a few glassed of dry red wine, seems to mess up my whole system for at least 24 hours. So there I am Sunday night having cravings like mad for chocolate and I don't usually "do" cravings. But I scarfed down a whole bar of 100% bakers chocolate. That night I couldn't get to sleep and my stomach was doing backflips. Yesterday at the grocery store I walked right by the chocolate and was not even tempted. I don't have any more in the house and don't plan to buy any. I'm not saying I'll never have another bite of chocolate again but I think that one last binge got me so grossed out on it that it is off the grocery list as a staple permanently.

                      Booze is being limited to that once a month gathering.

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                      • Dinner tonight was a massive spinach salad with a tomato, onion, garlic bruchetta on top plus a big piece of the yummiest salmon. You will have to take my word for it that it was pretty as well as tasty because my camera needed a recharge and I was too hungry to wait.

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                        • We got garden tomatoes coming out of our ears. 3 different kinds, all yummy. My lunch was a big portion of salmon, avo & broc. Dinner was chicken salad on top of a mixed green salad. Side of stewed okra & tomatoes. Yummy leek/cauliflower puree soup made w/ coconut milk coz I was out of cream. I overate, coz I had 2nds of the soup which was more of a thick chowder.
                          "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
                          "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
                          "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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                          • Nothing like a good home grown tomato. Once you've had one, those watery squishy things they call tomatoes at the store will never taste the same again.

                            I'm not a big okra fan but I sure that if anyone could make it taste good it would be southern chef such as yourself.

                            That soup sounds wonderful. I made some bone broth and mixed it with coconut cream and have been using it as a soup and cream sauce base. Very rich and creamy.

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                            • Yeah, vine ripened tomatoes are the stuff (not artificially made red by overexposure to carbon dioxide like store bought ones).

                              Have you played Monopoly Deal? We played that with another family on Sunday and it was quite fun (in a bit of a cutthroat kind of way, the same way the vastly inferior regular monopoly is).

                              And I just don't understand taking chocolate off your shopping list permanently. Couldn't you do something more reasonable, like competitive MMA?
                              Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                              Griff's cholesterol primer
                              5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                              Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                              TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                              bloodorchid is always right

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                              • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                                Yeah, vine ripened tomatoes are the stuff (not artificially made red by overexposure to carbon dioxide like store bought ones).

                                Have you played Monopoly Deal? We played that with another family on Sunday and it was quite fun (in a bit of a cutthroat kind of way, the same way the vastly inferior regular monopoly is).

                                And I just don't understand taking chocolate off your shopping list permanently. Couldn't you do something more reasonable, like competitive MMA?
                                No, I've never played Monopoly Deal. That might be a good suggestion for my Game Night. Thanks, Magic.

                                I'm not depriving myself of chocolate because I like self flagellation. The thought of it really grosses me out after that whole bar of the 100% stuff. I think I am really sensitive to caffeine and that may have been a part of it. But when I ate that, it was the middle of the night and my heart was thumping against my ribs. It was really kind of scary.

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