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  • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
    Plants are such good companions.
    Not all of them. I periodically get into bouts of fisticuffs with bougainvillea.

    Q sure knows her stuff when it comes to plants. Good to have an expert around here.
    At this point I've spent half my life dedicated to learning about plants split between classroom education, research, and on the job training. If I don't know something about plants, I can probably find it.

    Originally posted by Sigi View Post
    We don't have poison ivy here, or oak (presuming you mean poison oak), and I have no idea what sumac is so I suspect we don't have that either.
    I was referring to poison oak and poison sumac. It looks like the three are restricted to North America. In that case, should you ever visit North America and someone mentions they have had recent contact with one of those, I would highly recommend doing an about face and performing vigorous cardio while testing your maximum volume.

    And what is it anyway with salespeople who accost you in malls and try to schmear you with their creams and spray you with their perfumes before you have time to say "no thanks"? Euccchh. So rude. Fragrances in many creams make my eyes water, and perfume makes me sneeze. I hate all of that stuff; my senses don't appreciate the assault.
    I used to have a lot of trouble breathing when exposed to strong perfumes or cleaners. I still don't like the smells but since taking wheat out of my diet I can at least tolerate them. Of course now my eyes and nose start itching if I get too close to a toaster that is being used...
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    • Easy on the fisticuffs with the Boug... they bite back!

      At least mine does... pruning that thing... ughhhh.
      But I still love it!
      You just cannot beat them for take anything the weather throws at them(heat and humidity wise) and still give back colorful exuberance!
      “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
      ~Friedrich Nietzsche
      And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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      • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
        Easy on the fisticuffs with the Boug... they bite back!

        At least mine does... pruning that thing... ughhhh.
        But I still love it!
        You just cannot beat them for take anything the weather throws at them(heat and humidity wise) and still give back colorful exuberance!
        We lose more work clothes to bougainvillea than anything else other than the sun. Have also had the thorns go right through leather gloves.

        Pentas. You can buy them cheap as an "annual" at most retail nurseries, but anywhere you can grow bougainvillea outside, pentas will be a perennial shrub. They fill in fast, come in many colors, are covered in flowers even after trimming,less frequent trimming, no thorns, no sprawling, butterflies love them, and they'll bloom better under lower light conditions while still performing wonderfully in the sun.
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        • Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
          I agree with you, despite being a digital era kid, as there was a time when cellphones were uncommon and all we had were pagers. I had a lot more fun with my friends back then, when we spent all day outside playing card games and riding bikes. Now, no one can take their eyes off their phones and update Facebook for every little thing they do.
          It's like people are too busy tweeting and FB updating about their experiences to really experience any experiences.

          Originally posted by Sigi View Post
          I had an ignorant beautician (my threader) cheerfully smear some mango moisturiser on my eyebrows the other day after treatment, without even asking me first. There was much, much swearing and insistent demands for it to be washed off, pronto. I think I frightened her.

          And what is it anyway with salespeople who accost you in malls and try to schmear you with their creams and spray you with their perfumes before you have time to say "no thanks"? Euccchh. So rude. Fragrances in many creams make my eyes water, and perfume makes me sneeze. I hate all of that stuff; my senses don't appreciate the assault.

          Rant over. PB, I hope you have a wonderful, invigorating trip. (When are you leaving?)
          Yikes that sounds painful to the brows, your and hers when you punched her.

          I totally agree that the aerosol assault teams selling fragrances are horrible. They're sneaky too. They get you before you have a chance to tell them just exactly where they should put that bottle of allergenic havoc.

          Originally posted by Twibble View Post
          But...but...who will I eat vicariously through then?

          Originally posted by Twibble View Post
          And WOWEE did that sound wrong.
          OK, I'm not the only one that sounded weird to. Hehe. That's all right, Twibble you can eat vicariously through me anytime.

          Originally posted by PRO199 View Post
          Oh my, salespeople who accost you in malls... They should be ground into a rough paste, canned, and sold as dog food. Too extreme?
          No. Much too lenient. Not to mention that all that fragrance they are soaked in probably wouldn't be good for the dogs either. How about drawing and quartering?

          Originally posted by Quies View Post
          Not all of them. I periodically get into bouts of fisticuffs with bougainvillea.
          At this point I've spent half my life dedicated to learning about plants split between classroom education, research, and on the job training. If I don't know something about plants, I can probably find it.

          I was referring to poison oak and poison sumac. It looks like the three are restricted to North America. In that case, should you ever visit North America and someone mentions they have had recent contact with one of those, I would highly recommend doing an about face and performing vigorous cardio while testing your maximum volume.

          I used to have a lot of trouble breathing when exposed to strong perfumes or cleaners. I still don't like the smells but since taking wheat out of my diet I can at least tolerate them. Of course now my eyes and nose start itching if I get too close to a toaster that is being used...
          Lucky them down under not having those plants. They do have plenty of other things that bite however, mostly of the buzzing variety.

          I find I just have less patience for strong chemical smells. I think it's because my senses have become more acute without the chronic mild sinus stuffiness caused by wheat. I used to consider semi stuffed up as kind of normal. Now anybody who messes with my free flowing airways is not wise.

          Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
          Easy on the fisticuffs with the Boug... they bite back!
          At least mine does... pruning that thing... ughhhh.
          But I still love it!
          You just cannot beat them for take anything the weather throws at them(heat and humidity wise) and still give back colorful exuberance!
          My new condo had wine colored bougainvillea all over the courtyards in between the buildings. It looks pretty with the Spanish style white walls and red tile roofs.

          Originally posted by Quies View Post
          We lose more work clothes to bougainvillea than anything else other than the sun. Have also had the thorns go right through leather gloves.

          Pentas. You can buy them cheap as an "annual" at most retail nurseries, but anywhere you can grow bougainvillea outside, pentas will be a perennial shrub. They fill in fast, come in many colors, are covered in flowers even after trimming,less frequent trimming, no thorns, no sprawling, butterflies love them, and they'll bloom better under lower light conditions while still performing wonderfully in the sun.
          I just learned how to spell bougainvillea from your post. Too bad I'm not doing my own gardening anymore.

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          • As a kid who was a bit of a summer mall brat in the 80's and early 90's you have no idea how many time was was NINJA sprayed!
            That was so common they made a Friends episode out of it I think... LOL

            And I have actual allergic reactions to some of that stuff... like hive reactions.

            I wear fragrances now, but i do much better with real parfums(still have to spot test) and parfum oils than the eau de toilettes they sprayed willy nilly all over the place.
            “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
            ~Friedrich Nietzsche
            And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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            • Originally posted by Quies View Post
              We lose more work clothes to bougainvillea than anything else other than the sun. Have also had the thorns go right through leather gloves.

              Pentas. You can buy them cheap as an "annual" at most retail nurseries, but anywhere you can grow bougainvillea outside, pentas will be a perennial shrub. They fill in fast, come in many colors, are covered in flowers even after trimming,less frequent trimming, no thorns, no sprawling, butterflies love them, and they'll bloom better under lower light conditions while still performing wonderfully in the sun.
              We have a monster at the front of the house. It grows like a plague but barely flowers. No amount of pruning dents it. We feel as though we're harbouring a triffid, or living in Sleeping Beauty's castle. What can we do to encourage flowers rather than thorns, or at least as well as?
              I like badgers, books and booze, more or less in that order.

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              • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                As a kid who was a bit of a summer mall brat in the 80's and early 90's you have no idea how many time was was NINJA sprayed!
                That was so common they made a Friends episode out of it I think... LOL
                And I have actual allergic reactions to some of that stuff... like hive reactions.
                I wear fragrances now, but i do much better with real parfums(still have to spot test) and parfum oils than the eau de toilettes they sprayed willy nilly all over the place.
                Yes, I do much better with things like essential oils. I think a lot of the allergenic reaction is to the medium they put it in, alcohol and other chemicals.

                Originally posted by badgergirl View Post
                We have a monster at the front of the house. It grows like a plague but barely flowers. No amount of pruning dents it. We feel as though we're harbouring a triffid, or living in Sleeping Beauty's castle. What can we do to encourage flowers rather than thorns, or at least as well as?
                Q????? Paging Q?????

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                • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                  [/B]I find I just have less patience for strong chemical smells. I think it's because my senses have become more acute without the chronic mild sinus stuffiness caused by wheat. I used to consider semi stuffed up as kind of normal. Now anybody who messes with my free flowing airways is not wise.
                  I still hate being ninja sprayed and chemical smells in general, but at least now I don't have to hold my breath when I walk by a candle store. Accidentally eating wheat leads to near immediate breathing trouble for me, though I haven't gone into anaphylactic shock from it so far.

                  PE classes were always torture because I was always guilted into thinking I had a hard time running because I didn't run a lot and if I only ran more I would have an easier time. So for mile runs I'd spend 10+ minutes running while feeling like someone was squeezing my lungs, and at least as long recovering after I stopped. Then if I didn't do well enough I'd have to do it again. Always baffled the teachers that it never got any easier for me.

                  Now that I actually know how it feels to breath and not be in pain from running a few steps, I am downright militant if someone tries to forces wheat on me.

                  I just learned how to spell bougainvillea from your post. Too bad I'm not doing my own gardening anymore.
                  I always like it when someone learns something new about plants.

                  Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                  I wear fragrances now, but i do much better with real parfums(still have to spot test) and parfum oils than the eau de toilettes they sprayed willy nilly all over the place.
                  Have you tried ylang-ylang? It's the tree they make Chanel No.5 with. You could easily stick a flower in your purse or pocket and have the smell for a day or two.

                  Originally posted by badgergirl View Post
                  We have a monster at the front of the house. It grows like a plague but barely flowers. No amount of pruning dents it. We feel as though we're harbouring a triffid, or living in Sleeping Beauty's castle. What can we do to encourage flowers rather than thorns, or at least as well as?
                  There are two main reasons a bougainvillea will not bloom:
                  1. Not enough light. They will have very few flowers if they do not get several hours of direct sunlight every day.
                  2. Too frequent pruning. Bougainvillea will only bloom on the new growth. If you are constantly trimming the new growth, then you are removing the flower buds.

                  My recommendation would be to pull out the bougainvillea, burn it, have a priest sanctify the area it was planted in, and put a nice plant in.

                  Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                  Q????? Paging Q?????
                  Yes Ma'am?
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                  • Candle stores don't bother me much as most of those scents are natural things like cinnamon. What gets me is the soap aisle in the grocery store. I hold my breath, duck in and get some swiffer pads really fast and duck back out to gasp some fresh air.

                    Where would one obtain a yiang-yiang blossom?

                    I love bougainvillea to look at as long as someone else takes care of them. When my sister housesat for me when I was in Africa for a month she went and planted a bunch at my house (without asking). Not my problem anymore. I hope the new owners enjoy them.

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                    • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                      Where would one obtain a yiang-yiang blossom?
                      From a yLang-yLang tree of course. You could probably grow one where you are. There is a dwarf variety that people can grow in pots, maybe you can ask around at some nurseries if you are interested. I have seedlings for full-sized ones in my nursery but I can't ship outside Florida.

                      I love bougainvillea to look at as long as someone else takes care of them. When my sister housesat for me when I was in Africa for a month she went and planted a bunch at my house (without asking). Not my problem anymore. I hope the new owners enjoy them.
                      Unfortunately a lot of my dad's maintenance customers feel the same way, and I'm usually the one who has to take care of them.
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                      • Bougainvillea... sounds like the Southern plant monster version of what the farmers up here hafta deal with - that invasive wild rose. Multiflora, I think. Ugh.
                        I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                        • Thanks for the subtle spelling correction, Q. That's what I get for posting without my reading glasses.

                          The only place I could grow anything is in a window box area out of the guest room window. It gets good sunlight in the morning but none later in the day. Would that suit a ylang-ylang tree? How big does the dwarf variety get?

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                          • If you have a balcony I'd recommend putting it out there, otherwise the sunniest window possible should work. The dwarf variety gets 8-10 feet tall and takes a long time to get that size, so you should easily be able to keep it trimmed to a manageable size. Just make sure it's the dwarf, the normal one can be up to 80 feet tall.
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                            • Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
                              Bougainvillea... sounds like the Southern plant monster version of what the farmers up here hafta deal with - that invasive wild rose. Multiflora, I think. Ugh.
                              It's not quite as bad in that respect because I have never seen bougainvillea spread by seed or runners. A single plant can take over a whole house though.
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                              • Originally posted by Quies View Post
                                It's not quite as bad in that respect because I have never seen bougainvillea spread by seed or runners. A single plant can take over a whole house though.
                                Yep. It looks so pretty with Spanish style architecture (which we have a lot of here in SoCal). Then, next thing you know it has crawled up the walls and all your plaster is falling off.

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