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  • Step 4 : Go back to the monastery and pray. Really hard.

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    • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
      Are you saying you've joined a monastery or that you just have so many women throwing their panties at you that don't know what to do with all of them?
      Not trying to blow my own horn or anything, but I've never had any problems attracting women at all. But, that isn't really what I meant, I'm just not concerned about what anyone thinks of me. If someone ruled me out because of smoking, that's on them, not me.
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      • To clarify my statement (becuase i knew you didn't have kids and wasn't saying anything about that per se), is that my life had a very different pace before I had my son.

        I was 32 when I had my son. Years were neither long nor short. They passed at a comfortable pace, and it seemed to me that they would continue in that way. I grant that years *were* speeding up, but they weren't extremely fast.

        For me now, a year is extremely fast. The first year with DS is basically a complete blur, and then every year since then runs together. the last 5 years have felt like 1 of my pre-child years.

        I don't know, but I think that time does speed up no matter what, but kids might also double that.

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        • Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
          Not trying to blow my own horn or anything, but I've never had any problems attracting women at all. But, that isn't really what I meant, I'm just not concerned about what anyone thinks of me. If someone ruled me out because of smoking, that's on them, not me.
          The only thing that is "on them" is not getting cancer from second hand smoke. The danger of second hand smoke is real. In addition to tasting and smelling gross.

          Originally posted by zoebird View Post
          I don't know, but I think that time does speed up no matter what, but kids might also double that.
          That's a scary thought. Maybe it's the caring for others part that affects it. It seemed like the time flew by when I was taking care of my Dad but now it has settled down to just fast as opposed to crazy fast.

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          • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
            The only thing that is "on them" is not getting cancer from second hand smoke. The danger of second hand smoke is real. In addition to tasting and smelling gross.
            That's fine, I wouldn't want to be around anyone neurotic anyway. Humans evolved around fire, people breathe in much more harmful things on a daily basis(diesel exhaust, coal, etc) and you're telling me it's perfectly normal for a person to worry about one person's passive cigarette smoke?

            Nope, that's called being neurotic. Also, as for taste and smell: not one person has complained to me yet. You're projecting your personal opinion on the entire human race, it's pretty arrogant.
            Last edited by Derpamix; 05-10-2013, 03:51 PM.
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            • For some unfathomable reason, Derpy, I really care about you, even when you are being a twit. Please read up before lighting up if you care one bit about those around you.

              Secondhand Smoke Kills 42,000 Nonsmokers a Year in US | LiveScience

              CDC - Fact Sheet - Secondhand Smoke Facts - Smoking & Tobacco Use

              WHO | 10 facts on second-hand smoke

              CDC - Fact Sheet - Tobacco-Related Mortality - Smoking & Tobacco Use

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              • England's smoking ban linked to annual 5 percent drop in emergency admissions for asthma
                I like badgers, books and booze, more or less in that order.

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                • correlation =/= causation, once again.

                  Scientific Evidence Shows Secondhand Smoke Is No Danger | Heartlander Magazine

                  I don't smoke around non-smokers, courtesy and whatnot. Strangers anyway, I don't know them, they tend to get uptight, and it's a little rude if there is wind and they get smoke in the face. Most of my friends don't mind at all though.
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                  • The connections between Heartland and Philip-Morris are many and well documented. Roy E. Marden is a former member of Heartland's board of directors, and was until May 2003 the manager of industry affairs for the Philip Morris (PM) tobacco company. His responsibilities included "managing company responses to key public policy issues," which he accomplished by "directing corporate involvement with public policy organizations to determine philanthropic support thereto." Or in other words, which public relations orgs. industry (read as "Philip-Morris" et al) will send money to so they can produce the garbage corporate propaganda.

                    So, one Heartland article against the scientific consensus. Grow up, Derp.

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                    • Scientific consensus? It's all entirely unresolved methodological issues. It's based entirely on a questionaire(real reliable, right?) This is because it's not possible to disambiguate between the effects of second hand smoke and similar environmental factors such as air pollutions, so, yeah, forgive me if I'm not throwing my pack out immediately upon reading your junk articles.

                      These articles are all related to the disingenuous lies created from the EPA article that only estimated the CA EPA figure, not offering an independent estimate, and was forced to lower this number for obvious reasons.

                      If you will, read this, and many of the articles on this blog:

                      Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: A History of Anti-Smoking
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                      • Riiiiiight. The CDC and WHO are "junk" but a Phillip Morris sock puppet and a blog called Velvet Glove, Iron Fist are reliable sources. SMH.

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                        • I gave reasons why, there are of course citations and valid arguments included, but you can ignore those. Doesn't matter, neither of us will change our minds, so...
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                          • This guy looks reeeeeeaaaaly credible: (The velvet glove guy)


                            About the author
                            Christopher Snowdon was born in North Yorkshire in 1976 and lives with his wife, daughter and cat in Sussex. He studied history at Lancaster University and is now a freelance journalist and author. He writes for the online magazine Spiked and on his own blog. His articles have appeared in the Wall Street Journal and The Guardian and he has appeared on numerous radio programmes, including the BBC's The Moral Maze.

                            He is the author of the internationally acclaimed Velvet Glove, Iron Fist and The Spirit Level Delusion. His latest book is The Art of Suppression: Pleasure, Panic and Prohibition since 1800 (published October 2011). He is vocal critic of the modern public health establishment which he believes has been corrupted by moral entrepreneurs and vested interests. His ambition is to die of a non-communicable disease.

                            Most of the citations were him quoting his own blog.

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                            • And? Doesn't make his points any less valid, unless you care to try and refute them. I posted here too, and you're not refuting my points either, just resorting to ad hominems.

                              It's OK, I respect your choice to believe what you want, alright? This subject will go nowhere like this, and thus, isn't worth our time(I have a hockey game on atm)
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                              • Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                                And? Doesn't make his points any less valid, unless you care to try and refute them. I posted here too, and you're not refuting my points either, just resorting to ad hominems.

                                It's OK, I respect your choice to believe what you want, alright? This subject will go nowhere like this, and thus, isn't worth our time(I have a hockey game on atm)
                                Enjoy your hockey, Derp. I just reserve the right to say, "I told you so", when you get lung cancer. Even James Dean was mortal.

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