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  • I'm with you on this one!

    I'm really not into the whole replacement food idea anyway, trying to simulate some poor food choice by approximating it with a better food choice. It just seems to me that if some particular food is bad for you, you should work hard to stop eating it altogether.

    Replacing it with a "Paleo" lookalike seems problematic to me because you haven't made a fundamental change in your eating. If you are making pizza with paleo friendly crusts, to satisfy a craving for pizza, what happens when your willpower lags?

    The jump from "I don't eat pizza at all" to "I ate pizza" seems bigger to me than the jump from "I eat pizza-like foods, which don't really satisfy my cravings for pizza" to "I ate pizza."

    I'm not articulating this very well, but I hope you get what I mean. There are so many good ways to eat good food, that it doesn't make sense to me to simulate inherently unhealthy foods using healthier substitutes.
    Last edited by DCarr10760; 09-05-2013, 11:05 AM.
    Height: 5' 10"
    Starting Weight: 292
    Starting Primal Weight: 275
    Current weight: 224
    Goal weight: 172
    Body Fat 30.5

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    • So true - I experimented with those types of foods, spent a lot of time and money making food that either wasn't very good or was extremely high in calories, PUFAs, and carbs - and then I realized how foolish I was. I'd rather spend my food money on high-quality grass-fed meat and local organic produce.

      Now it has been so long since I've eaten pizza that I honestly don't remember what it tastes like. I don't miss it.
      My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

      "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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      • Not to hijack Warmbear's journal (as I do just exactly that...)

        Boy's Birthday party was on Sunday and we had it at a Laser-tag place (very fun!) the place provided pizza for lunch as part of the deal. It looked awful and I didn't have any, reports by all the adults confirmed that it wasn't very good. That night, after the party, nobody (meaning me) felt like cooking so we had pizza delivered from the excellent pizzeria around the corner. I wasn't going to have any of that either, but it looked good and I didn't have anything else simple and ready, so I had a slice.

        I didn't like it! the crust was bitter and didn't taste as good as I remembered. I scraped the toppings off of a second piece and ate those, but was disappointed with the whole thing, and foraged for some vegetables and an Applegate Farms hot dog.

        It just goes to show (me at least) that actually giving up food that is bad for you can be a permanent thing. I really have no desire to eat pizza again. It's weird to say that because I ate it twice a week at least for most of my life.
        Height: 5' 10"
        Starting Weight: 292
        Starting Primal Weight: 275
        Current weight: 224
        Goal weight: 172
        Body Fat 30.5

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        • I find that there is now such a thing as too much information... I have been paleo for almost 2 years now and I have been lowish carb high protein and way more veggies than I like as the basis for this diet. I dont count or measure except to eyeball everything. I skip breakfast and eat 2 meals a day. I try to sleep well but since the baby came I am not even close to enough and I dont really work out other than walk with the dog a lot.

          I have stopped loosing weight for months now and I have 40 or so left to go. I suspect it has a lot to do with stress and sleep being an issue.

          I find all the options swirling in my head, lc, vlc Resistant starch, lowish carb paleo... so may choices and I have no idea what to do if anything.

          I pretty much refuse to count everything I eat as I know it wont happen so what am I to do? I have a bad history with too many carbs and I easily fall back into pigging out on them as soon as I weaken. I also feel like shit if I go too long without some in the mix. (I mean something other than lc veggies) I also get hugely ill if I get a gluten exposure or eat too many carbs at once.

          I am leaning towards a vlc LLVLC style diet for the next few months but I worry that with the sleep and baby stress, vlc will just be another added stress making cortisol levels worse.

          Suggestions?
          Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

          Join me at www.paleoplanet.net, where all the cavemen hang out.

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          • If you know you're already stressing your body due to factors that you can't control (baby) then you definitely don't want to add more stress on top of it. You want to feed your body as clean and healthy as you can. Strict paleo is probably your best bet.

            Are you taking vitamins? A broad spectrum multiple vitamin/mineral combo and a strong B complex is essential to help support the adrenals. Make sure its a quality brand or you'll just be flushing your money away. Vitamin D is essential since you live so far north. I take 10,000 units a day just to maintain my level in the normal range.

            How old is baby now?
            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
            2. Eat to heal
            3. Move to live
            4. Embrace today
            5. Live with intention
            6. Respect my body
            7. Cultivate joy
            8. Find my passion
            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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            • I eat liver 3 or 4 times a week as a vitamin supplement. I take vit d from Sept till May and get sun all summer.

              The baby is 8 months now and nauseatingly cute with teething slime and slobber running out of all the holes.
              Last edited by Warmbear; 09-19-2013, 01:32 PM.
              Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

              Join me at www.paleoplanet.net, where all the cavemen hang out.

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              • Originally posted by Warmbear View Post
                nauseatingly cute with teething slime and slobber running out of all the holes.
                You truly have a way with words, Warmbear.
                The Champagne of Beards

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                • I know I just wish I talked pritty as I can rite. Most folks hear me speak and accuse me of being 'merican. I mean how insulting can you get?
                  Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

                  Join me at www.paleoplanet.net, where all the cavemen hang out.

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                  • she should be sleeping through the night soon That will definitely make life a bit easier!

                    I still suggest a strong B complex for the adrenals - it will help with stress and sleep quality
                    1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                    2. Eat to heal
                    3. Move to live
                    4. Embrace today
                    5. Live with intention
                    6. Respect my body
                    7. Cultivate joy
                    8. Find my passion
                    9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                    • Hey Tomi, what btw do you mean by "since you live so far north"??? hmmm you make it sound like I live above the arctic circle. You are farther north than I am btw.
                      Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

                      Join me at www.paleoplanet.net, where all the cavemen hang out.

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                      • *Looking at map...................

                        I think we're pretty darn close in our northy-ness I am a couple miles south of the 45th parallel. How 'bout you? I do believe you are a few miles NORTH According to this google map.

                        Course - I never was good at geography.......... does that equate northy-ness?
                        1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                        2. Eat to heal
                        3. Move to live
                        4. Embrace today
                        5. Live with intention
                        6. Respect my body
                        7. Cultivate joy
                        8. Find my passion
                        9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                        • Well whaddayaknow. she be right. I did not know Americans could even see maps that listed places outside of the US. Hmm i always thought with the way NA sat on the planet the pacific NW was a lot farther north than Montreal, oh well.
                          Last edited by Warmbear; 09-19-2013, 07:51 PM.
                          Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

                          Join me at www.paleoplanet.net, where all the cavemen hang out.

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                          • We be schooled in all the earth!
                            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                            2. Eat to heal
                            3. Move to live
                            4. Embrace today
                            5. Live with intention
                            6. Respect my body
                            7. Cultivate joy
                            8. Find my passion
                            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                            • I'm at 43.85, am I south of BOTH of you? And I always thought I lived in the frozen north!
                              My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                              "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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                              • apparently you are slightly to the south of us.
                                1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                                2. Eat to heal
                                3. Move to live
                                4. Embrace today
                                5. Live with intention
                                6. Respect my body
                                7. Cultivate joy
                                8. Find my passion
                                9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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