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  • Thank you! I wish I had a blender at work!

    Hunger Games, Primal Version - My experience with hunger has been very interesting to me. Before primal, I was always hungry. I never really felt satiated. Full yes, but always feeling like I had missed something - looking for something to eat that would be satisfying...does this sound familiar to anyone? No matter what I ate, I was hungry an hour later. Often I would eat a piece of toast with fake butter on it. Can you believe that? (Shudder) No wonder I was always hungry. That has a glycemic index of what, 70? That's CW for you.

    Now I am having the weird sensation of actually enjoying hunger. I don't have that same I'm-gonna-die-if-I-don't-eat-something feeling. It comes on slowly, so I can be going about my day and think, hmmm, maybe I will eat in an hour or two. When the hunger comes, it brings a pleasant anticipation, like when you are looking forward to seeing a movie later on, or meeting up with friends. Not that horrible starving feeling.

    Is this all my imagination? Something I made up in my head? If it is, I don't care, I really like it.
    My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

    "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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    • Having a cool night at work! Probably shouldn't admit this, but it's a slow night and I have been tearing through paperwork like mad. I called my retirement plan company and straightened out about ten things - been meaning to do that for at least three years. Paid all my bills way ahead of time. Sent my mom a pretty cool Mom's Day gift - she gets flowers on Friday and then chocolate covered strawberries on Saturday - and a nice card. Triple whammy.

      Does anyone talk about colon health? UTIs? Probably no one wants to, very high ick factor. But it's all good.
      My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

      "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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      • I just discovered that a banana cooked in butter tastes awfully good. That and turkey soup for breakfast. Not enough fat though. I should have put some fat in the soup.

        Well, I have some work to do, hope everyone has a great day!
        My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

        "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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        • I was at Target yesterday, buying a smaller crockpot to supplement our huge honking one, and saw that they have mini-crockpots, for bringing to work. And also, mini-blenders. (In cute colors, too, they know how to get you!) No, I didn't buy them, but I WANTED them. And I don't even work!

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          • LOL, Sabine, you are too funny!

            Siobhan, I wasn't overly afraid of being hungry, but it's nice to experience it less. And yes, it's a politer hunger, more willing to sit and make small talk until meal time.

            I couldn't finish my modest supper last night, was out all evening, went for "coffee" with people who were eating lasagna and bread and yogurt (all of them older, but very trim and healthy people, FWIW) and I didn't feel any deprivation or hunger or uncontrolled urges. Nice. The feeling of being in control of your appetite and food intake is easily just as good as the joys of scarfing down goodies. This is coming from somebody who really, really likes to eat.
            5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
            Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
            Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

            More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
            - Lewis Mumford

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            • Originally posted by Siobhan View Post
              Hunger Games, Primal Version - My experience with hunger has been very interesting to me. Before primal, I was always hungry. I never really felt satiated. Full yes, but always feeling like I had missed something - looking for something to eat that would be satisfying...does this sound familiar to anyone? No matter what I ate, I was hungry an hour later. Often I would eat a piece of toast with fake butter on it. Can you believe that? (Shudder) No wonder I was always hungry. That has a glycemic index of what, 70? That's CW for you.

              Now I am having the weird sensation of actually enjoying hunger. I don't have that same I'm-gonna-die-if-I-don't-eat-something feeling. It comes on slowly, so I can be going about my day and think, hmmm, maybe I will eat in an hour or two. When the hunger comes, it brings a pleasant anticipation, like when you are looking forward to seeing a movie later on, or meeting up with friends. Not that horrible starving feeling.

              Is this all my imagination? Something I made up in my head? If it is, I don't care, I really like it.
              I've noticed the exact same thing. My hunger isn't "desperate" anymore. It's hard to describe, but hunger before almost hurt! LOL I think I consumed most of my calories between dinner and bedtime. With primal, my dinner is very satisfying and I can go to bed without all those previous calories! No wonder I'm losing weight. This is the most-enjoyable food plan I have discovered. Energy galore and losing weight without hunger -- how grand is that!

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              • Love the kicks, Chatty! Wonder what would happen if I wore those to work? I am glad that others are experiencing some of the same things I am, validation is a good thing!

                The last three days (work days) I have struggled to eat enough - who woulda thunk? I'm just not hungry and time goes by - the day is over and I have only eaten 700-900 calories. When I eat I become satiated very quickly. Definitely don't want to starve myself and end up in some kind of danger zone. I feel a little foolish even mentioning this, as I am absolutely a person who likes to eat. My portions are quite small - much smaller than I formerly ate. Of course, I am free with the fat, which is where the satiety probably comes from. I am getting 55-60% of my calories from fat, carbs about 80-100g. Not craving anything but primal foods. Woke up this afternoon thinking about beef and eggs. So I ate them.

                I need to get some kind of little cooker for work. I was thinking about a little electric skillet. Not a full-size one, I don't have the room to keep it. I don't know if they exist, but I will look. I have a mini-blender/chopper at home, I love it. I have a full-size blender too but rarely use it. Even before primal days, I used the mini just about every day.
                My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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                • Forgot to mention I have Gary Taubes's Good Calories, Bad Calories and am loving it. Not for everyone, very dense and meaty. The detail in his research is impressive. Even if you aren't primal, finding out how the American diet became a vehicle for career advancement for some scientists and then became politicized is quite horrifying. I knew that big food companies hold enormous power with their money and their lobbyists, but I didn't know that it is actually deeper than that. I love the book, but would recommend his Why We Get Fat and What To Do About It first, much shorter and more about actual food for someone who doesn't want the ENTIRE story.
                  My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                  "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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                  • I can identify with a different hunger sensation nowadays... it is a real hunger now, not the desperate feeling of 'my blood sugar is dropping and I feel like I'm going to die if I don't eat soon!' And for some reason it is a pleasant feeling now - I like the anticipation and being able to decide when and if I am going to eat! That is huge for me - being able to sit and watch others eat my old trigger foods without a twinge of craving or desire. I used to feel so out of control, because I was.

                    I hope you can find something that works really well for work - there are so many cool gadgets out there now I am sure you'll be able to find something Let us know what you find...
                    Start weight: 225.5 lbs Feb 14th 2012. Height: 5'7"
                    Primal low: 186 lbs
                    Current weight: 221.4 lbs
                    Goal weight: 140 lbs

                    "You are free to choose, BUT you are not free from the consequences of your choices."

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                    • Originally posted by Siobhan View Post
                      The last three days (work days) I have struggled to eat enough - who woulda thunk? I'm just not hungry and time goes by - the day is over and I have only eaten 700-900 calories. When I eat I become satiated very quickly. Definitely don't want to starve myself and end up in some kind of danger zone. I feel a little foolish even mentioning this, as I am absolutely a person who likes to eat. My portions are quite small - much smaller than I formerly ate. Of course, I am free with the fat, which is where the satiety probably comes from. I am getting 55-60% of my calories from fat, carbs about 80-100g. Not craving anything but primal foods. Woke up this afternoon thinking about beef and eggs. So I ate them.
                      Strange, isn't it? I haven't been plugging in my numbers the last few days, but I'm starting to think I should push myself to eat a bit more. This is a very unusual thought for me. But as long as I'm feeling less tired, and not losing more than two pounds a week, I don't plan on worrying too much. And as long as your energy levels are good, and everything else is lining up well, I wouldn't worry if I were you either.

                      I do find that about once or twice a week I get the urge to eat till I'm really full, as in stuffed. So I just do. Something comforting about being nice and full every now and again. Actually, I would do that even before I went primal, usually at the Sunday family dinner. I didn't stress out over it, because I usually wouldn't eat again, or very little, till the next day.
                      5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                      Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                      Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                      More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                      - Lewis Mumford

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                      • Well, today was kind of puzzling. About 5 AM I got up to do my morning rounds and felt very dizzy. I mean really, really dizzy, and it didn't clear. I staggered around a bit and then got the idea to drink some goat milk, which I did, and ate a kiwi fruit. Still dizzy. Probably should have taken my blood pressure but honestly, I didn't think of it. Did the morning rounds, which were action packed but went very well. Came home and ate two fried eggs and went to sleep. Had terrible dreams. Woke up very sore on the left side of my back, had trouble getting out of bed. I probably would have called out sick tonight but we already have three people out. Got up and ate freely of primal foods, sweet potato with butter, beef, leeks, leafy greens, smoothie of banana-strawberry-almond butter-coconut oil. Am up to 1400 calories today, bit high on carbs at 120g, around 80g protein, 65g fat if my tracker is correct. Feel a bit shaky. Weighed myself, I am down four lbs since Tuesday, but I'm always suspicious of the scale. Is this the low-carb flu? Did I just not eat enough? No cravings. Would love to sleep some more but I have to start getting ready for work - and I said I would come in early to cover for someone. What a fool I am.
                        My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                        "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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                        • Siobhan, please be alert to your physical symptoms. Probably just coincidence, but there have been a few people on the forums who have had significant health 'episodes' of various types three of four weeks after switching to a healthy diet. Pebbles is the first one I read about, and twice since reading her experience, I have read someone else's journal and thought, 'hmmm, three or four weeks in, just like Pebbles.'
                          It makes me feel that as we start healing our bodies, things get 'shaken up' inside, and sometimes there are some negative consequences. Of course, this is completely unscientific, just a feeling, but as soon as I read your post, I thought of it, so I felt I had to say something. Please take care. If only to humor me.

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                          • Thank you for that, I am very happy to hear from a more experienced person. I think that it is tempting, when one has made a relatively easy switch to primal and is four weeks or so into it, to think that everything is all figured out. I've had a few other minor things that I ignored over the last few days - experiencing muscle fatigue very quickly, such as after going up only one flight of stairs. (I run up and down three flights of stairs several times each evening in the course of my job.) Being able to do only two sets with my very light hand weights. After the huge surge of energy I have felt in the last few weeks this really gave me pause but who wants to be a crybaby? But I will be very careful and maybe throw a couple extra pieces of fruit in. Come to think of it, I have not eaten much fruit at all the past three days or so. I think I see an apple in my future.
                            My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                            "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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                            • Siobhan, I've been lurking and loving your journal. I'm worried about this. Be very alert and be sure to keep eating a bit more and maybe let someone at work know you're not well if this continues. Sabine may have something there ^ I, too, triggered something 4 weeks into eating primal... a terrible (and very rare for me) Crohn's flare almost exactly 4 weeks (and 25lbs) into my foray into clean primal eating (though before goung primal I'd been eating VERY SAD for a loooong time). I'm only just recovering and emailed Mark a question about toxins released by burning fat though he may not be able to answer it. You arent obese like me, though so i wonder if it might be your carbs were getting too low? From the other journals I've read, I think that for several women they felt unwell from eating too few carbs... many seem to feel/get better after upping their carb intake.

                              Sorry to leap from the lurking shadows, but I wanted to express my admiration and concern...

                              Kerry
                              SW: 243
                              CW: 177
                              Goal: Health

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                              • Thank you so much, Kerry! It really helps to have people jump in with their ideas because that helps trigger my own thoughts about what I need to adjust. I looked over my food journal for the last week or so and decided...more carbs...more fat...more protein...more everything. I am also right at that age with the weird hormonal changes looming around every corner, and I believe that fat burning releases hormones, namely estrogen. I also believe with all my heart that women usually have somewhat different needs than men do, i.e. maybe more carbs and slower weight loss. I am really committed to this lifestyle and don't want to screw it up! I think I should also drink more water, flush some of the crap out of my system. I wondered if the back pain is an unhappy kidney?

                                Eating an apple right now!
                                My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                                "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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