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  • #91
    Dogs do get depressed when they are left without a "pack". Not that I know from personal experience. My aunt always has two dogs, and gets a new one to cheer up the survivor when one dies. She finds it interesting how the behaviour shifts when the "young" dog becomes the senior member of the pack.
    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
    - Lewis Mumford

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    • #92
      I have seen dogs get depressed too. It's sad really. It's like he's lost his litter mate. Something to entertain him would be good - more attention from you, new bone, something like that - unless you're looking for another dog, that is.
      Primal since March 5, 2012
      SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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      • #93
        Oh dear NO -- we're are ending our time as dog owners with this last one. We've been trying to give him more attention and love. He really likes to bark at, and try to eat our little RC helicopter that we play with in the living room. The other dogs did too. So we try to play with him every evening. Hope he doesn't stay sad too long. He's such a sweet guy.DSC03396.jpg --- there, if it worked right you should be seeing my Zeus.
        1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
        2. Eat to heal
        3. Move to live
        4. Embrace today
        5. Live with intention
        6. Respect my body
        7. Cultivate joy
        8. Find my passion
        9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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        • #94
          here's the 3 of them......

          DSC01915.jpg
          1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
          2. Eat to heal
          3. Move to live
          4. Embrace today
          5. Live with intention
          6. Respect my body
          7. Cultivate joy
          8. Find my passion
          9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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          • #95
            Ah, Zeus looks so sweet! I just wanna ruffle his head and watch those ears flop around and then give him a big hug and a kiss on the snout. I love dogs.

            As a side note, my dogs drive me nuts, but I still love them. They just annoy the snot out of me. lol
            Primal since March 5, 2012
            SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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            • #96
              It does feel rather strange, getting down to no animals. When we got our last cat, I discovered that I had become allergic to them. Fortunately, she was not a lap-sitter. She loved sleeping on my feet or snuggling up beside me on the couch, but disliked being held and certainly wasn't insisting on butting her face up against mine. So it was bearable, despite the fact that she was a furball factory. But when my daughter left home, I let her take the cat with my blessing. It's nice not to be itchy each and every day.

              I'm not sure if dogs would affect me the same way. I'd hate to go out and get one and find out it doesn't work. I'm going to have to babysit a dog at some point to find out.
              5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
              Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
              Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

              More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
              - Lewis Mumford

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              • #97
                there are breeds that are "hypo-allegenic". Poodles, Schnauzers, West Highlands Terriers, and I think Airdales might be also. If they have hair like people instead of "fur" they don't have the dander that causes the allergic reaction. But, all those breeds require a lot of grooming also.

                I've decided to stay away from the scales for a bit - I'm adding that obsession to my box of things that need to be put away in a safe place for just a bit. Since I'm seeing the doc on Monday to see whats happening with my thyroid, adrenals and whatever else she can look at - this is a good time to just not worry about it. I have the scales in the bath on the main floor - and my bedroom is upstairs - so its not convenient to weigh in the buff anyway. I had dropped a couple pounds - but they magically found their way back again. I know its not what I'm eating cuz I'm being really careful. I'm not as active as I could be - or "should" be. I'm just not going to worry about it until I find out if there is something physiologically out of whack - or metabolically might be the more fitting term. I'm frustrated, but trying not to let it really bug me. If stress releases cortisol, and cortisol messes with insulin then I don't want to go there. I'm being kind to myself and having a nice salmon filet for breakfast today! Yummy! Probably healthier than bacon and eggs. A nice tall of cup of hot green tea with a little honey! Now - if I could just turn on some music, kick back and stay home all day I'd be a happy camper! I'm finding the older I get, the more I enjoy being home, and the less I want to go to work! oh well -- since I'm not independently wealthy I guess that isn't going happen.

                So, I'm thinking about doing a crossfit club thing. But I'm scared........... and I'm not wanting to spend the money on it either. My son is doing P90X - and he says there is a "gentler" version if I'm interested. He works out every night for an hour! I'm not sure I want to make that kind of commitment. Okay - first things first........ lets get the doctor visit overwith and see what happens after that.
                1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                2. Eat to heal
                3. Move to live
                4. Embrace today
                5. Live with intention
                6. Respect my body
                7. Cultivate joy
                8. Find my passion
                9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                • #98
                  So I eat that beautiful salmon fillet for breakfast and my reward is a nice IBS attack! Sheesh! I hope its over, cuz I gotta go to work in 30 minutes.

                  Why can't I figure out what triggers those attacks? There is no pattern - seems like food in general. I'm taking the probiotics, but not seeing much help. GRRRR!
                  1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                  2. Eat to heal
                  3. Move to live
                  4. Embrace today
                  5. Live with intention
                  6. Respect my body
                  7. Cultivate joy
                  8. Find my passion
                  9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                  • #99
                    Ugh so frustrating that you try to treat your body right and it rejects you!!
                    Primal since March 5, 2012
                    SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                    • Originally posted by tomi View Post
                      there are breeds that are "hypo-allegenic". Poodles, Schnauzers, West Highlands Terriers, and I think Airdales might be also. If they have hair like people instead of "fur" they don't have the dander that causes the allergic reaction. But, all those breeds require a lot of grooming also.

                      I've decided to stay away from the scales for a bit - I'm adding that obsession to my box of things that need to be put away in a safe place for just a bit. Since I'm seeing the doc on Monday to see whats happening with my thyroid, adrenals and whatever else she can look at - this is a good time to just not worry about it. I have the scales in the bath on the main floor - and my bedroom is upstairs - so its not convenient to weigh in the buff anyway. I had dropped a couple pounds - but they magically found their way back again. I know its not what I'm eating cuz I'm being really careful. I'm not as active as I could be - or "should" be. I'm just not going to worry about it until I find out if there is something physiologically out of whack - or metabolically might be the more fitting term. I'm frustrated, but trying not to let it really bug me. If stress releases cortisol, and cortisol messes with insulin then I don't want to go there. I'm being kind to myself and having a nice salmon filet for breakfast today! Yummy! Probably healthier than bacon and eggs. A nice tall of cup of hot green tea with a little honey! Now - if I could just turn on some music, kick back and stay home all day I'd be a happy camper! I'm finding the older I get, the more I enjoy being home, and the less I want to go to work! oh well -- since I'm not independently wealthy I guess that isn't going happen.

                      So, I'm thinking about doing a crossfit club thing. But I'm scared........... and I'm not wanting to spend the money on it either. My son is doing P90X - and he says there is a "gentler" version if I'm interested. He works out every night for an hour! I'm not sure I want to make that kind of commitment. Okay - first things first........ lets get the doctor visit overwith and see what happens after that.
                      Thanks for the info on the dogs. I didn't realize that it depended on the breed. A dog that requires grooming is not in the cards for now. Perhaps when my energy levels are up. I'm still not coping as well as I should with the minimal responsibilities that I have.

                      Scales for me are weird; sometimes they motivate me, sometimes they discourage me. So I sometimes track things very carefully, which was useful for teaching me what worked and what didn't. And sometimes they drag me down, so then I just quit weighing myself. I don't have anybody else to answer to, so I can do it any way I want. And change whenever I want.
                      5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                      Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                      Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                      More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                      - Lewis Mumford

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                      • Judg - I understand you're lack of coping. I have had fibromyalgia for 10 years, but was also diagnosed with CFS about 5 years ago. I had to quit my job in 2007 and I got worse until I spent the better part of 2 -3 years just barely functioning. I could sorta keep the housework up - but not much more than that. Seems like life is going by in super speed when you're just barely make it to slow motion! It sucks! It was a long hard climb to where I am today. I started by adding in supplements, and yes, if I don't take them everyday I can feel the difference so I try really hard to remember to take them daily. Then when I couldn't figure out what else I needed from supplements I started searching for diet information. Thats when I found paleo/primal. It took a while for me to decide to dive into this way of eating, but I knew I had to give it a try. I'm sure glad I did! For the first time in 10 years I'm pain free (unless I eat grains or have a bit too much sugar). I'm still not sleeping through the night - but I have more days when I wake up feeling rested-ish ---- rather than dragging myself out of bed just because I have to. 2 years ago, on a bad day I would get out of bed, put on some sweats, find something really easy to make for breakfast, sit on the couch and either watch tv or sit at the computer all day long. I may or may not have showered before my husband got home from work, and usually he would make dinner, and clean up. Then I'd go to bed and lay awake until 3 in the morning cuz sleep just wouldn't come. NOW, on a bad day, I get up by 8:30, I do some housework, get showered and go to work for 3 or 4 hours (I have a flexible job!) come home and make a simple dinner, then crash on the couch with my husband for the evening. On a GOOD day - I am just as functional and productive as anyone else! And the really great part is.......... My good days are probably 85% of the time now. But, if I stop taking my supplements, and I don't eat healthy --- then my bad days start to take over again. Its what keeps me on the straight and narrow! I SOOOO hope you are finding improvement in your health and will stay the course as well.
                        1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                        2. Eat to heal
                        3. Move to live
                        4. Embrace today
                        5. Live with intention
                        6. Respect my body
                        7. Cultivate joy
                        8. Find my passion
                        9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                        • Well you guys are certainly an encouragement! And I very much appreciate it. I kind of crashed in mid-afternoon today, but at least the day started well. I would love to have 85% good days. And get my garden back in shape. And the house properly cleaned. And, and, and...

                          I find supplements help me too, although I can't see a difference on a day-to-day basis. But over the long term, I do. I still haven't found much rhyme or reason to when I have good days and bad, although sleep is a major factor. Which is a cue for me to hustle off to bed. Propping my eyes open with toothpicks here. Figuratively speaking...
                          5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                          Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                          Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                          More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                          - Lewis Mumford

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                          • Tomi, your old bad days sound like my MIL's good days... I really wish she'd give this a try... I would think that if I felt that badly, I'd be willing to try anything to make the pain go away. I am certainly glad your days are going so well and I hope Judg is able to accomplish the same success!
                            Primal since March 5, 2012
                            SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                            • @jenn --- I hope your MIL will try this also. Its just such a waste of life to let pain and fatigue dominate your days and do nothing to try to fight it. My sister wants "someone to find a cure" ---- but she doesn't do anything herself to try to fix it. She's thinking someone needs to invent a PILL to make it all go away. I don't know why she can't wrap her brain around the possibility that what shes putting in her mouth could be what is making her feel so bad. I want to scream "I HAVE THE CURE!!!!!!" but I know it wouldn't help. So she continues to eat her breads, cereals, pastas, cakes, cookies, beans and artificial sweeteners. And she is clueless to the fact that she is doing this to herself. She's told other people in the family, "well, thats great for Tomi, but I don't want anything shoved down my throat". Fine then......... When she is ready (IF ever) she will come to me and I will tell her all about it. But until then, I will just enjoy the new life I have.

                              Judg - - Keep you're eyes on the goal! And keep searching for the answers. With auto-immune disorders I believe we have to be our own advacates because western medicine doesn't have a clue what causes them or how to treat them. All doctors know about anything is what pill is supposed to fix what ailment - and they rely on the pharmaceutical industry to provide them with the magic cure. They know how to diagnose stuff --- but if there isn't a pill to fix it, then they don't what to do to....... they pass you off to some other "specialist". I work for an endocrinologist - I see it every day. Thats why I starting searching for my own answers - cuz I got tired of doctors, even the one I work for, telling me "we really don't know what to do about it - lets try 'this' pill" -- And even now when I tell my boss, who is also my best friends brother, that I have the answer to fixing the fibro pain -- he looks at me and his eyes glaze over............. why is it so hard for people to see that our food supply is making us sick?

                              Oh boy - thats my rant for the day! I'm going to go eat a grass fed beef patty for breakfast now!
                              1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                              2. Eat to heal
                              3. Move to live
                              4. Embrace today
                              5. Live with intention
                              6. Respect my body
                              7. Cultivate joy
                              8. Find my passion
                              9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                              • A totally justified rant. Fortunately my own family doctor is not a pill-pusher, plus she has CFS so she has never given me the "it's all in your head" junk. When the "specialist" she sent me to decided I was depressed, not fatigued, and prescribed anti-depressants, we both shook our heads in disgust and ignored him. Not that she has the answer, but at least she doesn't pretend that she does.

                                Your poor foolish sister. The best thing you can do, in my insufficiently humble opinion, is live so joyfully in front of her that she just can't stand it anymore. Seriously, she probably thinks you're on some fad thing, that it eventually won't work for you, so why should she upset her lifestyle to eventually get nowhere? God knows I've often thought similar things myself. And frequently been right, for that matter. I've realized slowly over the years that we often have to earn the right to be listened to. It doesn't matter how right we are, how much we care, people hate being preached at until, and this is key, until they ask for it. People naturally resist change, especially after a certain age, until the status quo is unbearable or at least unsatisfactory.

                                My first reaction to the suggestion to cutting grains was "no way, no how, not going to happen. Are you kidding me? How could I live without all these wonderful foods?" And even now, if I think of this lifestyle in terms of no bread, no pasta, I get pretty unhappy about it. When I think of it in terms of choosing health and energy and joy, well, then it's a different kettle of fish. Your sister can only see it in negatives right now. The more you illustrate the positives, the more likely she is to shift her mentality. But it's still up to her.
                                5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                                Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                                Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                                More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                                - Lewis Mumford

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