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  • Hey Tomi! You see, I'm still alive.

    Good for you to decide to take yourself in hand. I mean, why do we think we're treating ourselves when we're just causing ourselves suffering? I wish I could nail down what's been bugging me lately.
    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
    - Lewis Mumford

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    • well -- I must have had too much salt in the passed couple days cuz my weight is back up to 191 and I feel puffy and bloated. Even my face looks puffy --- nice little bags under my eyes and everything! UGH! It days like this that I understand why super models put Preparation H under their eyes! If I had some I'd be using it.

      Breakfast is leftover chicken and tuna loin. No dipping sauce. A couple big glasses of water to wash down all my supplements too. Dinner tonight will be leftover pork loin and roasted veggies with a sweet potato. I feel like I'm getting in such a rut foodwise. I need a little more variety. Its really hard to find things to cook when I don't know when hubby will be home everyday. The shop technically closes at 5:30 -- but that doesn't mean he won't be there until 8:00. I guess thats just the price of owning your own business. He does whatever he has to keep the customers happy.

      So..... last night hubby tells me one of his parts suppliers is having their annual buyers show in Vegas in October. They have offered to fly him there and pay for his hotel for the weekend. That means for a very little cost on our part we get a weekend in Vegas! As soon as he gets the details on bookings for him I will get an airline ticket for me! The weekend might end up costing us $500 for my ticket and food. Yeah! Something to look forward to!

      I have been looking at condo's on the Big Island --- there are some pretty killer deals out there! I found one little cottage very close to the beach for $59 a night, and it has good reviews on tripadvisor. We can fly for free, cook our own meals and make a very cheap vacation of it! I mean --- we could almost do a Hawaii vacation for what it would cost in gas, food and RV park fee's to drive down the Oregon coast from border to border. I'm liking this idea a LOT!

      I'm waiting for a guy to get here.......... Hubby has asked for an estimate to have the outside of our house cleaned - roof, gutters, siding and windows! It hasn't been done for about 5 years and it really needs it! We have vinyl siding! YUCK! Stupid choice when hubby and the ex did the remodel 12 years ago. I wish we could affort to have it re-sided, but thats not going to happen. I have to leave for work in about 40 minutes. I guess I don't need to be here for him to look at the outside of the house. I just hope he's okay with dogs. Zeus has an electronic fence so has free run of the yard and a dog door to come and go as he pleases. Sometimes he doesn't like men, especially men in uniform. He really hates the guys from FedEx or UPS.

      I haven't walked for 2 days cuz I was feeling pretty weak - the weekend was super busy with all the bbq preparations and stuff - so I decided to just listen to what my body was saying - and it was saying - "LET ME REST". ok. But I will try to walk when I get home from work today. I should get on my bike - it burns more calories.

      BLAH - I feel like a whale today! Even breathing is uncomfortable! Lets see --- salt makes you retain water -- what is it that makes you release water? If I remember my days of A&P at Boise State I believe the answer is Potassium. A balance of the 2 allows for proper balance of water in the tissues and bloodstream. I'll be sure to eat a lot of potassium rich brocolli for dinner tonight! and plenty of water all day today! Maybe I should pick up some potassium pills on my way home from work. I ran out about a month ago.

      okay.......... how much more boring can I be today? Have a good day all!
      1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
      2. Eat to heal
      3. Move to live
      4. Embrace today
      5. Live with intention
      6. Respect my body
      7. Cultivate joy
      8. Find my passion
      9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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      • When I need to flush, I eat lots and lots of watermelon!! I'm impressed that you remember potassium as being the counter to salt... I didn't remember that.

        Your trip to Vegas sound ideal. Wish I could go with you. I've never been to vegas!

        What's wrong with vinyl siding? That's what we have. I monitor ours pretty closely b/c a lot of houses around here have moss growing on the north side of their houses. Ours is good so far (also 5 years).
        Primal since March 5, 2012
        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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        • Just plain water is great too. Helps dilute the excess minerals causing you to hold on to salt.
          5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
          Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
          Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

          More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
          - Lewis Mumford

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          • Vegas is okay. I've been there twice, once on a business trip - got to stay at the Venetian! Once because our PU transmission took a dump out in the middle of death valley and we had to be towed back to Vegas for repairs! That time we stayed off the strip. Its all glitz and hookers! Seriously - they have people standing on the streets handing out flyers for "escort" services. Its earned its name as "SIN City" quite honestly. We don't really gamble - maybe $20 in the slots - and when its gone we're done. Hopefully there will be a good show to go see. I strongly doubt we will be staying on the strip this trip. But - it will be fun to run away with my sweetie for a weekend and mostly someone elses expense!

            So I'm thinkin'.............. maybe I need more carbs. Maybe that will shock my system into giving up some fat! I have been trying really hard to keep my carbs between 50 and 100 -- but I would estimate 90% of the time its really close to 50. Overall calories rarely go above 1500. So why am I not losing weight? I keep floating between 188 - 192. I keep reading that some women need more carbs to lose ---- so I'm going to try it out. My goal will be 100 carbs a day for the next 2 weeks. So far today I'm at 56. Breakfast was all meat - I had about a cup of mixed melons and grapes at work - and when I got home I ate a sweet potato with butter and a TB of brown sugar. So, I'll make mashed cauliflower for dinner, with steamed carrots. That won't do it - I might have to go back to eating almonds and see if that will help up my carbs. Any sugggestions?
            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
            2. Eat to heal
            3. Move to live
            4. Embrace today
            5. Live with intention
            6. Respect my body
            7. Cultivate joy
            8. Find my passion
            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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            • oh - vinyl siding........... ours is 12 years old, and beginning to get a bit brittle. What I hate about it is that its hard to clean cuz its not a solid surface --- you know, it sorta moves when you touch it. Also - in the Oregon weather it gets very mildewy and dirty. The bid to have it all cleaned is $525. I think we're gonna do it. Have to make sure this company is licensed and bonded first though.

              the other thing I don't like about it is that you can't really paint it. You're stuck with the color for all eternity! Ours is a very pail yellow with white trim. BORING!
              1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
              2. Eat to heal
              3. Move to live
              4. Embrace today
              5. Live with intention
              6. Respect my body
              7. Cultivate joy
              8. Find my passion
              9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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              • I wish they made something for snoring spouses! My husbands snore wakes me up - and then he starts this thing where he snores on the inhale - and growls on the exhale! What the heck is that all about? I wake up to pee and can't go back to sleep because there is some kind of construction zone going on in his throat! GRRRR!!!

                So - I'm sitting in a dark dining room checking MDA to see if there is anything I have to say - or anything entertaining to read on the boards. I'm thinking NO on both accounts. So, I guess I'll go back to bed and see if my earplugs will give me a little quiet so I can fall asleep again.

                Hope you all are having a quiet and peaceful nights sleep.
                1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                2. Eat to heal
                3. Move to live
                4. Embrace today
                5. Live with intention
                6. Respect my body
                7. Cultivate joy
                8. Find my passion
                9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                • Ugh........ I'm functioning on 3 hours of sleep. I don't know what the deal was last night but I was freezing cold! Hubby said the cool felt good........ have I stepped through some weird role reversal mirror or something? It always just to opposite. Since I've been taking the Armour to INCREASE my thyroid function - my body temps have been dropping. Very weird. I finally put a big fuzzy blanket over my side of the bed when hubby got up to go to work - I warmed up and fell asleep. But I still woke up every hour to pee.

                  I'm back down to 189 again this morning. I pee'd 2 pounds of water yesterday and last night! I wonder that measures? A gallon weighs 8 pounds right? If thats right, then I pee'd a quart of water out! Sheesh! And after reading through a thread about balancing macros I've decided instead of increasing my carbs I'm going to increase fats and decrease proteins. Info ala' Paleobird. So starting today I'm back to eating eggs fried in butter for breakfast, and I'm going to check the label on my favorite almonds to see what the carb content is. I haven't had in any in so long I don't remember. So, if meat averages 7 grams of protien per ounce then I should be looking at eating approx. 6-7 ounces of meat and 3 eggs. That will get me to 65 grams total. Paleobird says go for your desired weight in kilos. I want to be 135 pounds. Divide that by 2.2 and you get 61.3. So I'll round it up to 65 and that will be my daily goal for protein. I'll keep carbs low, and increase fat. The whole thought of increasing fat scares the crap out of me! But, its worth a try cuz I've been reading other stuff about high fat actually causing weight loss. I read something the other day about this doctor guy.......... at the eating academy website. His thing is supper high fat. I'm going to give it a couple months to see what happens --- but if I see a gain after a couple weeks I might bale.

                  I have to go in early today to the office so I should get my little self moving. I think I'll bag the shower and just throw on some jeans and makeup and go. Also one of the benefits of menopause -- I can easily go a day or 2 without washing my hair - so showers are quick and easy!
                  1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                  2. Eat to heal
                  3. Move to live
                  4. Embrace today
                  5. Live with intention
                  6. Respect my body
                  7. Cultivate joy
                  8. Find my passion
                  9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                  • work was short and sweet. The managers off next week and I am technically his back up...... which is totally stupid cuz I only work like 10 hours a week. But he hired me to help take some of the load off of him so when he's gone on vacation I'm the go to girl. I'm the only one with a key to his office and I have privileges that others don't. It helps being a close family friend to the big boss - he tells the manager I have his explicit trust in all matters. I've worked at this place since 2001, except for a couple years hiatus. Sometimes I think I should find a different job - but I have too much freedom and stuff at the job. And I really love being around the medical community.

                    whatever...........

                    I stopped at the store and bought some almonds! yeah! I have missed my almonds. I should probably get the "raw" ones, but they seem to be tasteless and chewy - yuck. I like the roasted almonds that are coated with cinnamon. YUM!

                    I was wondering how on earth I'm going to eat 70% of my calories in the form of fats! But - my log says I'm currently at 71%. So, I just need to fry my hamburger patty in bacon grease, put LOTS of butter on the cauliflower mash - and maybe use a little honey mustard for dipping. EEESH...... this really goes against my "low fat" mindset! Even after eating "primal" for almost a year I still struggle with the idea of losing weight eating a diet HIGH in healthy fats. Its just counter-intuitive to me. But, I'm gonna do it - cuz the other stuff I'm doing isn't working. I've been playing ping-pong between 188 and 192 for ALL of 2012. Its time to break this cycle and start to see some weight loss. I'm also curious to see if eating higher fat will increase my energy levels - as I've read many people experience. I could use a little more energy.

                    Tomorrow I'm meeting on old friend for lunch! I'm very excited! Right now -- I'm going outside to re-build a small flower bed in from of my porch.
                    1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                    2. Eat to heal
                    3. Move to live
                    4. Embrace today
                    5. Live with intention
                    6. Respect my body
                    7. Cultivate joy
                    8. Find my passion
                    9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                    • Snoring is a sign of sleep apnea. Your husband should have it checked out by his doctor.

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                      • My husband was diagnosed with sleep apnea. He hasn't used his machine in probably 5 years b/c he didn't want it to scare our little guy. His snoring seems to be improving (or maybe I'm sleeping heavier) because I'm not being awoken by him as much and recently I haven't had to kick him to stop the snores.

                        Good luck with your experiment! I'm interested in seeing what happens b/c I'm also still at 188/189/190. *eye roll*
                        Primal since March 5, 2012
                        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                        • Okay --- I'm happy to report that today the scale says .............. 188 yeah! I'm so excited to see that number again! I'm going for a walk.

                          today I'm meeting an old high school friend for lunch! I'm very excited! She was my best friend for several years until she decided she liked the party life better than the stay sober life....... heart breaking. At 17 she was pregnant, had to drop out of her senior year. She's now 52 and a GREAT grandmother. (I'm not even a first time grandmother). Her family has a long history of teen pregancies. Let hope the great granddaughter can break the cycle.

                          anyway - its going to be a good day!
                          Last edited by tomi; 08-24-2012, 09:55 AM.
                          1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                          2. Eat to heal
                          3. Move to live
                          4. Embrace today
                          5. Live with intention
                          6. Respect my body
                          7. Cultivate joy
                          8. Find my passion
                          9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                          • Really pleased to hear that things are going well just now, and that that 'Drop' you could feel has started. how was lunch with your friend?

                            Good for you upping your fats. I would say though that if you are partaking in exercise ala Marks LHT programme I would start upping the protein again. When I say things like that to my clients they moan about not wanting to get big man muscles. I then have to tell them a shortened version (for my own sanity if nothing else) that to get big man muscles you have to eat like a big man. What I mean is if I wanted to be 20 stone, eating like a 10 stone person wouldnt cut it.

                            Once I get through to them that eating protein and working out (bodyweight movements are perfectly adequate) will tone their muscles (the word tone brings smiles to them - even though toning is building .... Dont get me started haha) and I then have the pleasure of informing them that this increase In lean body mass no matter how small has the added benefit that more lean body mass burn more calories when rested than fat does. What this means is that even when your sitting watching tv your body will burn more calories just to maintain normal bodily functions.

                            So up your fat, and if you are exercising up your protein and watch the scale tumble downwards. Oh I meant to add. Along with almonds try sunflower seeds....loads of fat and protein in them. Yum.

                            That was bordering on a rant haha.

                            Richard
                            Last edited by Richardmac; 08-24-2012, 10:11 AM.
                            It isn't the mountains ahead that wear you out....Its the grain of sand in your shoe.

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                            • Originally posted by Richardmac View Post
                              Really pleased to hear that things are going well just now, and that that 'Drop' you could feel has started. how was lunch with your friend?

                              Good for you upping your fats. I would say though that if you are partaking in exercise ala Marks LHT programme I would start upping the protein again. When I say things like that to my clients they moan about not wanting to get big man muscles. I then have to tell them a shortened version (for my own sanity if nothing else) that to get big man muscles you have to eat like a big man. What I mean is if I wanted to be 20 stone, eating like a 10 stone person wouldnt cut it.

                              Once I get through to them that eating protein and working out (bodyweight movements are perfectly adequate) will tone their muscles (the word tone brings smiles to them - even though toning is building .... Dont get me started haha) and I then have the pleasure of informing them that this increase In lean body mass no matter how small has the added benefit that more lean body mass burn more calories when rested than fat does. What this means is that even when your sitting watching tv your body will burn more calories just to maintain normal bodily functions.

                              So up your fat, and if you are exercising up your protein and watch the scale tumble downwards. Oh I meant to add. Along with almonds try sunflower seeds....loads of fat and protein in them. Yum.

                              That was bordering on a rant haha.

                              Richard
                              Not ranting - I appreciate the input and encouragement! I don't do much in the way of LHT - yesterday I rebuilt a small concrete paver wall and that was a lot of lifting! (My hubby was quite impressed) I try to walk at least 1 mile everyday, and I'm working up to making that 2 or 3 miles. I'll keep the protein where it is for now. Yesterday I hit my numbers almost perfectly!! carbs: 10%. Fats: 65%. Proteins: 25% with total calories at 1093. I know -- you might think thats a pretty low number -- but I have a pretty slow metabolism. At 1500 cal. I maintain my weight. I have never been able to eat like "normal" people. I feel good so far about the change in upping the fat and lowering the protein. Like I said, its counter-intuitive to my CW thinking of the olden days --- but it makes sense.

                              Its only 10:25 where I am in the world - so I haven't had lunch yet - but I'll come back and tell ya how it went when I get home this afternoon!
                              1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                              2. Eat to heal
                              3. Move to live
                              4. Embrace today
                              5. Live with intention
                              6. Respect my body
                              7. Cultivate joy
                              8. Find my passion
                              9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                              • Good for you. If it works do it. Your making positive changes and thats whats really important.

                                I have had clients who havnt lost weight and I got them to eat MORE. It works. Something to think about for the future.

                                Well done you for getting stuck in with the hard graft, no wonder hubby was impressed. Next he'll come home to you wearing a tool belt and hammering up dry wall.

                                The LHT programme can be really simple. Check out my log to see how im structuring my week.

                                Richard
                                It isn't the mountains ahead that wear you out....Its the grain of sand in your shoe.

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