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  • Hope you see/feel a difference with the higher dose soon, and start sleeping better again too . Well at least that's not a problem here in Belgium, with daytime temperatures averaging 60F : we're sleeping with our winter duvets!
    The dog looks like he's really enjoying the ride with your sexy husband
    My Journal: Candy in Primal Wonderland
    My Blog: Candy in Wonderland
    Goal for 2012: keep weight steady (+/- 74 kg): check
    Goal for 2013: lose 10 kg and keep new weight (+/- 65 kg)

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    • I'm glad to hear the news about your thyroid! Hopefully the increased dose will help you feel better.

      Guess what! DH told me last night that FIL says MIL bought a book on Primal. I have no idea what book, but according to FIL, MIL claims she's already doing most of the stuff they say in the book. I cry bs on that simply b/c I know the book doesn't say that cakes, cookies, muffins and bread are ok... We'll see how she does with it. I just hope she doesn't give it a half hearted effort and then claim that it didn't help. I'd really like to see her give this an honest effort. We'll see what happens and I'll keep you posted. Thanks for your support while I struggle to accept her preferred method. Hopefully before long, she won't need the preferred method anymore.

      Candy, I would LOVE to have 60 degree nights!!
      Primal since March 5, 2012
      SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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      • Jenn - that is SOOOO encouraging! At least she is willing to do some investigating on the subject. And if she chooses to let it go - then you will need to respect that - just remember to be prepared to lay down some rules and boundaries if she chooses to continue her self medicating.

        Candy --- our nights are fairly cool here as well --- down into the 60's, but I'm still not very comfortable. I think part of it my issue last night was that we ate dinner very late - we were eating at 8 pm. And I ate a big plate of stir fried veggies with Tandorri Chicken and a small baked potato! UGH! to much food for that close to bedtime! I'm going to have start eating earlier even if hubby has to work late. Which will mean having to cook twice - blah! Add to that my normal sleeping to hot on a memory foam mattress (they are notorious for causing hot sleeping - good for winter, but not so much for summer) Plus.......... I'm just learning about the symptoms of hypothyroidism........... night sweats and insomnia!!!

        On a happier note: my bowel issues seem to be going away with the addition of the Armour thyroid. Doc says that thyroid issues can cause diarrhea (even though most of the literature says hypo- causes constipation "or other bowel issues". I guess I fall into the "other" catagory. For a TMI moment: I've not had diarrhea in 6 days! I'm poo-ing once or twice a day and they are happily quite solid and normal! I'm am very very excited about this!

        So today I took my first dose of "double" - which is still only 30 mg OR mcg ??? not sure how Armour is dosed. I'm hoping the next few weeks will see some improvement in my energy, and maybe even see a little weight loss!

        I'm up a bit more today - 192 - don't know whats up with that. Maybe the dinner last night had a bit too much salt or could be from starting my work out yesterday - I'm feeling sore and puffy today. Just about to go do my work out for this morning. Monday - Thursday is still my plan - with walking or biking over the weekends. I need to find a more fitting/comfortable sports bra - the one I have sucks!

        okay yesterday report:

        Took all supplements and Armour
        Worked out 15 minutes
        Breakfast: 5 oz left over salmon
        Late lunch (snack): Watermelon (don't know how much, I just ate chunks out of the bowl)
        Dinner: Stir fried veggies, 6 oz Tandorri Chicken Thighs, baked potato w/butter and 1 oz colby jack cheese
        Late night snack: 1/2 cup ice cream (I know --- but it was HOT and I was weak! )

        Total calories: 1030
        Carbs: 27%
        Fats: 36%
        Protiens: 34%

        thats a pretty good balance but maybe just a bit heavy on the carbs. Normally I'm under 20% on the carbs, but then much higher on the fat - maybe this will be a good place to stay and see if these balances will help overall with energy and weight loss. Besides, I do miss those good carbs. But I think the watermelon was too sugary cuz I was a bite achy last night ---- sugar or just the workout??? hard to say.

        I miss Judg........... haven't heard much from her in a while. Hope she's doing okay.
        1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
        2. Eat to heal
        3. Move to live
        4. Embrace today
        5. Live with intention
        6. Respect my body
        7. Cultivate joy
        8. Find my passion
        9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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        • Hi, great journal! I have RA and have found my way here to alleviate the pain, too. All the women in my family have thyroid issues (mostly Hashimoto's) so I'm hoping starting this lifestyle at age 37 will help me mitigate the genetic coding for autoimmune disease. My mom had better luck on Synthroid vs Armour but my cousin says the Armour controls better. Best of luck!
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          • Thanks, Avocadogirl! (cute name) I hope you are doing well and don't follow in the family footsteps!
            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
            2. Eat to heal
            3. Move to live
            4. Embrace today
            5. Live with intention
            6. Respect my body
            7. Cultivate joy
            8. Find my passion
            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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            • Hey Tomi... you know, my husband has gained 100 lbs+ since we met. He sweats like a cold soda on a hot day at night and has abnormal bowel movements (I've heard him). He is always tired and can fall asleep in SECONDS if given the chance. I wonder if he should have his thyroid checked.

              We also have a memory foam bed. I agree - not meant for summer nights. Or pregnant women... lol
              Primal since March 5, 2012
              SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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              • Hi Tomi,

                I'm curious how your fibro symptoms are? I read the first few posts and.. well, there's 49 pages and I have two kids distracting me. :P My grandma will turn 70 this year and has pretty bad fibromyalgia, depression, migraines, and some weird neurological stuff the doctors don't have answers for (her skin feels like it's burning underneath), she's struggled with her weight all of her life and has diverticulitis and takes a LOT of medications. I keep trying to get her to read more about paleo but she's afraid with her fixed income, and some other excuses, that she can't do it. I would love to help ease her pain..

                Congrats on your thyroid issues getting fixed! I found my endocrinologist 4 years ago after being diagnosed by a holistic MD, and she's fantastic. I'm actually about to go fill what will hopefully be the highest dose of synthroid I'll ever be on (my bloodwork levels are near that sweet spot) and I also take 30mg Armour. I am hoping eating primal will help me be able to reduce those meds over time!

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                • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                  Hey Tomi... you know, my husband has gained 100 lbs+ since we met. He sweats like a cold soda on a hot day at night and has abnormal bowel movements (I've heard him). He is always tired and can fall asleep in SECONDS if given the chance. I wonder if he should have his thyroid checked.

                  We also have a memory foam bed. I agree - not meant for summer nights. Or pregnant women... lol
                  Jenn -- I think it would be worth a shot! Do you think he eats enough to have gained that much weight? If not - then definitely have him get a complete physical. Let me know........ I'm curious!
                  1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                  2. Eat to heal
                  3. Move to live
                  4. Embrace today
                  5. Live with intention
                  6. Respect my body
                  7. Cultivate joy
                  8. Find my passion
                  9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                  • Originally posted by torena View Post
                    Hi Tomi,

                    I'm curious how your fibro symptoms are? I read the first few posts and.. well, there's 49 pages and I have two kids distracting me. :P My grandma will turn 70 this year and has pretty bad fibromyalgia, depression, migraines, and some weird neurological stuff the doctors don't have answers for (her skin feels like it's burning underneath), she's struggled with her weight all of her life and has diverticulitis and takes a LOT of medications. I keep trying to get her to read more about paleo but she's afraid with her fixed income, and some other excuses, that she can't do it. I would love to help ease her pain..

                    Congrats on your thyroid issues getting fixed! I found my endocrinologist 4 years ago after being diagnosed by a holistic MD, and she's fantastic. I'm actually about to go fill what will hopefully be the highest dose of synthroid I'll ever be on (my bloodwork levels are near that sweet spot) and I also take 30mg Armour. I am hoping eating primal will help me be able to reduce those meds over time!
                    Hi Torena! Thanks for taking the time to read a bit of my journal. It is getting long! I started it in March I believe.

                    My fibro symptoms are not exhistant as long as I don't eat any grains and drastically limit my sugar. And NO artificial sweetners either. I was feeling better by day 3 of changing my diet. Once I ate about 1/2 cup of rice and was hurting within 2 hours. And the burning you're grandma is feeling is totally normal for fibro also. I have rubbed and scratched myself until I bleed from the burning, itching, pin-prickly feelings on my forearms. I have the scars to prove it! I did discover putting solid deoderant (like Sure) over the area will give some relief. You could suggest this for a short term fix for your grandma until she decides if she want to jump in with both feet.

                    Primal eating doesn't have to be a bank breaker. The IDEAL is grass fed and free range everything - and totally organic and nothing canned. But not everyone even here on MDA can afford to do that!!! Tell her she can eat regular store bought meat if thats what she can afford. Tuna and Salmon from the can work too. As do Sardines etc. I've found that by NOT buying all the junk food and prepared foods (think: rice a roni) it almost offsets the cost of eating more meat and fresh produce.

                    The more important thing for her, if she wants to use diet to treat her fibro - is to completely cut out grains (flours, rice, beans, corn and all cereals) and severely limit sugar. She should feel a difference in just days.

                    I'm hoping my thyroid is getting fixed!!! My doc said I'm just barely up into the normal range, so now we will increase my dose until we find that "sweet spot" like you! thanks!

                    Please let me know how things are going with your grandma!
                    1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                    2. Eat to heal
                    3. Move to live
                    4. Embrace today
                    5. Live with intention
                    6. Respect my body
                    7. Cultivate joy
                    8. Find my passion
                    9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                    • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                      Candy, I would LOVE to have 60 degree nights!!
                      Yeah, I wouldn't mind if we had that at NIGHT, instead it's our average daytime temperature so far . But today the sun is shining and we were promised a whopping 75F! And then tomorrow it's rain again *sigh*.

                      Tomi, I'm curious to see if you notice any difference with the higher dose, I hope you do!
                      My Journal: Candy in Primal Wonderland
                      My Blog: Candy in Wonderland
                      Goal for 2012: keep weight steady (+/- 74 kg): check
                      Goal for 2013: lose 10 kg and keep new weight (+/- 65 kg)

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                      • Originally posted by Candy in Wonderland View Post
                        Tomi, I'm curious to see if you notice any difference with the higher dose, I hope you do!
                        I'm optimistic about the Armour - and am looking forward to feeling more energy and seeing some weight loss.

                        Today - weight is back down to 189.3 and I don't feel all puffy and bloated. I think this is my true weight at the moment. So, I am reaching for my low of 186 - and then I will count the rest at real weight loss again. 186 was June 22nd. I'd like to see that number by July 22nd - but that would just be too much to expect. But, a little hope never hurts! Doc wants to see me lose the weight slowly ---- 30 pounds over 5 years! UGH - thats 1/2 pound a month! No thank you! I'm going to lose this weight much faster than that! My GOAL is to weight 135 again - and I'm wanting to see that in a year. Thats 54 pounds from right now. So, thats a reasonable 1 pound a week. And if it comes off faster - then thats just a big fat bonus! Or maybe I should say a "skinny" bonus! I have a closet full of clothes waiting to be worn next summer! Lots of cute capris and summer tops! I WILL be wearing them. And all my bigger sizes will be sent to the Good Will! I want nothing but a closet full of medium sized tops and size 8 or under pants! Last time I weighed 135 I was a size 6 - and I'm hoping to get there again. Heck with the say they keep downsizing clothes I might even see a size 4! wouldn't that just be to darn bad!

                        I figure..... since I started this in November - these past months have been my learning curve part of the process. From here - I KNOW what I'm doing and now its time to get serious and put into action what I've learned. Seems reasonable, right? I mean I can't keep doing this and just PLAYING with it - I have to APPLY it!

                        I think ---- well, I'm optimistic that the thyroid issue has been a major part of my not being able to lose weight. Cuz honestly I haven't eaten more than 1500 calories in a day more than a handful of times over the past 9 months. I keep track every day! So, if my doc says I should be maintaining at 1500 without doing anything except sitting around reading books all day - then I should definitely have been losing! I've been pretty darn active! Mowing the grass 2 times a week (which translates into 1 mile of walking), walking in the neighborhood 1-2 miles several times a week. Biking several very long rides! Hiking a couple of times. At work I climb up and down those stairs at least 6 times a day, and I have stairs in my own home. So, I do a lot more than sit around and play on the computer or read books! Damn THYROID! And on top of that.......... my bowel issues seem to be a result of the thyroid issue as well! I have had NO diarrhea in, I think 6 days now........ maybe 7. I stopped even thinking about it cuz its just so darn nice to be normal again! All I know is -- I go "big potty" once a day like a normal person! YEAH! I'm more excited about that than I am about the prospect of losing weight! But, that won't be the case once I start to see the scales moving again..........

                        Okay.......... I'm on day 3 of my Tae Bo workout. LOVING IT! Its definitely an aerobic workout -- but the movements are not that 80's bouncy-jane fonda thing. Its kicking and punching to music. When I was doing this workout 12 years ago I was doing it in a karate studio with a small group of other women - it was fun! I even led the class several times when the leader wasn't feeling up to it. Thats when I weighed 135, was a size 6 and was in the best shape of my life. I was also 12 years younger! But, I'm loving it. I'm working at it slowly - so I'm quiting when I get fatigued. I'll be very excited when I can do the entire thing!

                        And on that note............. its time to get my Tae Bo booty moving!

                        Edit: Yesterday report:
                        Calories: 1109
                        Carbs: 16%
                        Fats: 56%
                        Proteins: 41%
                        Last edited by tomi; 07-18-2012, 11:43 AM.
                        1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                        2. Eat to heal
                        3. Move to live
                        4. Embrace today
                        5. Live with intention
                        6. Respect my body
                        7. Cultivate joy
                        8. Find my passion
                        9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                        • Originally posted by tomi View Post
                          Jenn -- I think it would be worth a shot! Do you think he eats enough to have gained that much weight? If not - then definitely have him get a complete physical. Let me know........ I'm curious!
                          yes. he eats enough to gain 100 lbs in 9 years. Definitely. He's always eating sugary stuff, starchy stuff, wheat laced stuff.

                          I convinced him to get his T3 and T4 checked. His TSH was checked a few years ago and found to be normal, but I explained to him the TSH is just the hormone telling the Thyroid to work... he agreed to get it checked. Almost too willingly. lol He asked me to make him an appointment to get them checked.

                          In the world of MIL... guess what? She read Primal Blueprint and is willing to give it a shot. She said the Mayo Clinic has a DVD they gave her that pretty much says the same thing, but doesn't say anything about eliminating grains. She said it's interesting and she's gonna give it a shot, but part of me is skeptical considering the unconvincingly way she said it. I hope she goes into it wholeheartedly and doesn't try to half-arse it. Her words were "Yeah, I'm going to try to give up wheat, but it's going to be hard". I said in response that the hardest part is finding foods that don't contain wheat (and mentioned that even soy sauce contains wheat b/c wheat is EVERYWHERE) and told her that her surest bet to avoiding it is to get whole, fresh foods only and avoid anything that comes in a box. She told me the Mayo DVD teaches how to shop the perimeters and all that stuff. Well, that's fine and dandy, but eventually you WILL have to enter the center of the store for something, like say for spices or pasta sauce if you don't make your own, and she needs to be cognizant that wheat is infiltrated into just about everything. I mentioned that sugar is another serious offender, but she says that she's "giving up so much already, so sugar stays". Okie.... well, then. You won't experience the whole effect of what the PB can do for you, then. With any luck, eliminating grains will be enough for her to experience a difference, but I really think she's skeptical about whether or not this will work for her and as such she's going in little by little as opposed to going in with both feet, which I think will provide her with immediate feedback. She said it'll be difficult when they start going back to school, so I suggested just taking her own food, and she said she does, but it'll still be hard. I think if she's committed to making herself feel better, it won't be hard, but... I guess some people have commitment issues. lol

                          Anyhow, that's the update thus far. I suggested that she read It Starts with Food next b/c it really gets into how systemic inflammation causes (roughly) 90% of our problems, and even though she says the University of Iowa and Mayo both said that Fibro is not an inflammatory disease, It Starts with Food says that Fibro is essentially a symptom of systemic inflammation. Of course, maybe that's controversial in the medical field, I don't know... and that's why they say it's not a result of inflammation - or maybe they didn't consider systemic inflammation and only considered localized inflammation (like arthritis, sprained ankle type inflammatioin), because that's how she talked about it when she said they "tested" her for inflammation. who knows...

                          Either way, she's trying it, so hopefully she tries it well enough that it actually does something instead of feeding her skepticism.
                          Primal since March 5, 2012
                          SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                          • At least MIL is giving it some consideration! thats a step further than saying "no thanks". Give her some space to absorb it all and to do some experimenting. I guarantee if she seriously cuts down on wheats she will feel a difference. Maybe this would be a good time for me to write something that you could give her? Explain my experience, my failures etc. ???? let me know.
                            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                            2. Eat to heal
                            3. Move to live
                            4. Embrace today
                            5. Live with intention
                            6. Respect my body
                            7. Cultivate joy
                            8. Find my passion
                            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                            • I'm glad you're seeing improvements, Tomi. That's very important. And I think your goals are very reasonable. I wonder if your doctor suggested such slow weight loss so as not to get you discouraged if the thyroid condition continued to be a problem. My friend has been diagnosed with Hashimoto's and they've been playing with her medication levels for MONTHS without any result. Maybe that's why she set yours so slow b/c she's expecting resistance to thyroid changes? idk... just speculating.
                              Primal since March 5, 2012
                              SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                              • If you want to write to her, feel free! I'll gladly give it to her.
                                Primal since March 5, 2012
                                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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