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  • Okay - day 2 of whole30

    breakfast: cod fried in ghee
    lunch: almonds
    dinner: Mexican Siete Mares soup (fish soup)
    second dinner: small sweet potato and 3 slices of bacon.

    So, hubby comes home from work and says "let go out for dinner!" He wants to go to Mexican. So I say okay I'm sure there is something on the menu I can eat. I order the Mexican Fish Soup --- It tastes WONDERFUL! But before I could eat it - I had to kill it! Practically!!!! The hunk of fish (Talapia I think) still had the skin on it. The crab was still in the shell, although it was cut in 1/2. The prawn and 3 little shrimp were still in their shells - and the entire soup was full of these fish bones that were the size of darning needles!!! Once I got everything undressed I was able to enjoy it, while pulling hard unchewable shell peices and bones from my mouth! Loved the soup - but will never order it again! I think it was almost $20 - and I came home still hungry. Hence the second dinner.

    Day 2 a success!

    Thursday night dinner with the step daughters......... don't want to go cuz they don't care about seeing me anyway. But I will go for hubby cuz he wants me to go. So, I'll be ordering Tandori Chicken or Chicken Tikka - sans rice and naan. Its just not right to go to an Indian restaraunt and not have a mango lassi, chicken pakoras, and lots of naan. But - I will survive. Its hard to go to our favorite mexican place and not eat the fresh handmade tortillas also! I put them all on hubby's side of the table, and what he didn't eat came home to my son - who loves them also! Its also hard to not order a Long Island at this place cuz they make really good ones!!!! But I drank water! I done good! and I will go to sleep knowing I made good choices today.

    Yes, still keeping track of calories and macronutrients....... Right on target.
    1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
    2. Eat to heal
    3. Move to live
    4. Embrace today
    5. Live with intention
    6. Respect my body
    7. Cultivate joy
    8. Find my passion
    9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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    • I wish there was a way to block those forum scapers or whatever you call them from our journals ---- ticks me off! keke007 must be one cuz the post is full of random sentences.
      1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
      2. Eat to heal
      3. Move to live
      4. Embrace today
      5. Live with intention
      6. Respect my body
      7. Cultivate joy
      8. Find my passion
      9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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      • hahaha pieral12 copied my post from a few weeks ago! hahaha

        You can click the black triangle to report them, and then you can click on their username, go to their profile and "ignore" them. Then any future posts they make will not be visible to you.
        Primal since March 5, 2012
        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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        • Hurray for forward-thinking doctors! I hope this movement takes hold. Western medicine is much too beholden to pharmaceutical companies, right down to the education level. I take drugs as an absolute last resort. So many of our conditions are lifestyle-caused, and therefore can be cured or at least treated by lifestyle changes.

          Congrats on all the self-control and the positive results. Step by step, we will all get there.
          5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
          Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
          Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

          More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
          - Lewis Mumford

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          • The problem, Judg, is not the doctors but the patients. The patients are often looking for a quick fix that doesn't disrupt their lifestyle, so doctors prescribe drugs. The doctors are only doing what the patient wants. Lifestyle change is hard. Pills are easy.

            My doctor, an osteopath, is paleo. I have one chiropractor who is also paleo and another chiropractor who is primal (two chiropractors b/c one offers a service the other doesn't and I won't give up on the other b/c he's been my chiro for 14 years). They are each happy that I've taken this course to take care of my sciatic and mental health issues. The osteopath is pushing DH to climb on board, telling him that I know what I'm doing and he should trust me and follow suit. She's quick to prescribe, but I think that's b/c society has trained her to prescribe. It's like a breath of fresh air when she has a patient who actually wants to take charge of their health instead of just popping another danged pill.
            Primal since March 5, 2012
            SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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            • Jenn, you're right, there's a lot of that too. There's a pretty bad feedback loop going on. Western medicine is outstanding at handling trauma and crisis events, but very poor at dealing with chronic conditions.
              5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
              Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
              Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

              More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
              - Lewis Mumford

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              • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                hahaha pieral12 copied my post from a few weeks ago! hahaha

                You can click the black triangle to report them, and then you can click on their username, go to their profile and "ignore" them. Then any future posts they make will not be visible to you.
                done thanks for telling me. I HATE those things!
                1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                2. Eat to heal
                3. Move to live
                4. Embrace today
                5. Live with intention
                6. Respect my body
                7. Cultivate joy
                8. Find my passion
                9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                • Jenn and Judg --- so right! What I see (working in the medical field) is exactly what you are saying - people want a quick fix that isn't going to cost them anything, except a co-pay! On the other hand --- todays doctors have been educated poorly. They learn the physiology, biology, phychology..... all those "ologies" --- but they only learn how to treat it through pharmaceuticals. They aren't educated in how to treat a disease from a natural standpoint, they just learn what drug is used to "mask" the symptoms. I have to wonder how much money the pharmacuetical industry invests into medical schools - through grants for research, financial grants for students fees, and financial donations for campus developement. I'm sure its unbelievable! And should be illegal! that being said --- I do believe western medicine is on the cusp of a turn around. I'm hopeful!
                  1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                  2. Eat to heal
                  3. Move to live
                  4. Embrace today
                  5. Live with intention
                  6. Respect my body
                  7. Cultivate joy
                  8. Find my passion
                  9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                  • I don't know that I agree with that. I was studying to be a nurse took all of the ologies, but only one class talked about which drug to give for what illness and that was my pharmacology class. Maybe it's different in med school. I have a cousin who is studying to be a brain surgeon. I should ask her what she learned about medical issues while doing her premed stuff.
                    Primal since March 5, 2012
                    SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                    • okay! DAY 3 of whole30.

                      I'm feeling better and seem to have fought off that virus that was trying to take hold in my nose and throat. I walked this morning - but only 1 mile. Maybe I will try to get in another mile this afternoon.

                      Tomorrow I see the doc....... anxious for results of the saliva test. Hoping everything is fine, but if it is, then I have only myself to blame for the stall in my weight loss. This morning that 188 had turned into 188.8 --- but is probably due to the salty fish soup I had at the mexican place last night. It was very tasty!!! but I know anything that tasty is also loaded with salt! So, I'm hoping a day with low salt will get me back down there tomorrow. Yup - I'm throwing out the part of Whole30 that says don't weigh yourself for the entire 30 days! I haven't gone 30 days without weighing myself since I was 12 years old! And then I was a slight 102 pounds! oh - what happened????

                      Time to go get ready for work - why does that happen every day? I'd be so good at being unemployeed!
                      1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                      2. Eat to heal
                      3. Move to live
                      4. Embrace today
                      5. Live with intention
                      6. Respect my body
                      7. Cultivate joy
                      8. Find my passion
                      9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                      • Psst... don't tell but I'm ignoring that rule too.
                        Primal since March 5, 2012
                        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                        • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                          I don't know that I agree with that. I was studying to be a nurse took all of the ologies, but only one class talked about which drug to give for what illness and that was my pharmacology class. Maybe it's different in med school. I have a cousin who is studying to be a brain surgeon. I should ask her what she learned about medical issues while doing her premed stuff.
                          I believe the last year of med school is pretty heavy on the pharmacology stuff. Nurses don't have to know how to prescribe, so probably not a big priority there. Let me know what you find out - I'd like to know.
                          1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                          2. Eat to heal
                          3. Move to live
                          4. Embrace today
                          5. Live with intention
                          6. Respect my body
                          7. Cultivate joy
                          8. Find my passion
                          9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                          • You could be right. It would make sense since they are the ones prescribing and they'd need to know what to prescribe. Makes sense. My brain has been off today.

                            My question is: how do they keep all the illnesses and symptoms straight in their heads without carrying around a textbook full of symptoms and illnesses? lol
                            Primal since March 5, 2012
                            SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                            • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                              You could be right. It would make sense since they are the ones prescribing and they'd need to know what to prescribe. Makes sense. My brain has been off today.

                              My question is: how do they keep all the illnesses and symptoms straight in their heads without carrying around a textbook full of symptoms and illnesses? lol
                              Repetition! they are tested and drilled and drilled and tested! and if they don't remember - they have the PDR to go to - or the internet!
                              1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                              2. Eat to heal
                              3. Move to live
                              4. Embrace today
                              5. Live with intention
                              6. Respect my body
                              7. Cultivate joy
                              8. Find my passion
                              9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                              • Some med schools teach very little pharmacology. The doctors get their "education" from pharmaceutical company salesmen. And yes, the amount of grants for research and to medical schools by Big Pharma is huge. No, I don't have statistics, but I have read articles on it. Doctors and profs who call them out on it have their careers sabotaged. It's very depressing. Meanwhile, promising remedies are neglected because they can't be patented, and therefore the companies can't make money off them.
                                5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                                Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                                Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                                More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                                - Lewis Mumford

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