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  • Originally posted by tomi View Post
    I have a hard time seeing you as the type who would blow up - you seem to have a very calm center - at least thats what I get from your writing.
    Beware the wrath of the patient man! LOL! I am calm until I'm not... I've learned a lot of patience over the years, but if somebody or something rubs me too raw for too long, I snap.

    Originally posted by tomi View Post
    I think I will be fasting this morning. I ate something yesterday that made be feel really yucky.......... I was bloated and sorta nausious all night - then this morning had the gutt issues again - not as bad as they've been in the past, but ache and diarrhea. So, I'm giving my system a cleansing today. I'll eat later, but for now, just water. I'm waiting to take my supplements with food. Maybe I'll eat dinner. I do feel hungry, and there are some rumblings going on in there - but I just don't feel like eating.

    I'm going to try to cut back on my portions......... I've got the "what to eat and not to eat" part down good. Even if I do slip once in a while - but I need to eat a bit less I think.
    Yup, sometimes just backing off is the thing to do. Our tummies just want a rest.

    I've come to the conclusion that I needed to back off on serving sizes too, especially meat. I'm just not active enough to need that much. When I was sighing at the thought of having to cook some meat up, that kind of told me something.
    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
    - Lewis Mumford

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    • I just wanted to say I also have Fibro and giving up artificial sweeteners (especially diet pop) made my symtoms decrease immensely and then I went primal and haven't had a flare since. (2 mo) I feel better then ever and loving life. I want to shout it from the rooftops. People think I am nuts when I explain primal to them and they always have some excuse why they can't try it. I am so happy I did and I am hoping with my continued success with it and sticking with it it will make some of those people come around.

      I don't count calories anymore and feel so free from dieting. I just eat primal. I eat meat, eggs, and veggies for the most part. A little fruit (try to keep that to a minimal since I am still trying to lose weight). I eat a big breakfast, snack or salad for lunch, and a big supper. This is working for me. I also have made the Grain Free Choc Chip Cookies I found the recipe on one of the primal sites. Those are so good even my teenage boys love them. So when I am really craving something sweet I try to have stuff on hand to whip up a batch. Plus I love to bake so this is a way I still can.

      Hope you continue to have success with decrease in fibro symptoms. I am hoping to get my sister to try primal. She has already gone gluten free and has seen a difference and her son is Primal who runs marathons. Planning to talking to her this summer when we are home.
      Theresa

      SW 155 CW 148 GW 135-140

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      • Theresa, I'm so happy you're symptom free too! I shared this journal with my mother-in-law via email hoping she'd read it and agree to try it, but so far no luck. Her daughter is switching to Primal though, so maybe that'll be enough to get her to make the change as well. It's so hard watching people suffer when we know the answer lies in the foods we eat but they just don't want to try.

        I hope you continue to remain symptom free!!
        Primal since March 5, 2012
        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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        • Originally posted by Sabine View Post
          I think your condiments fit well into the 20%. Congratulations on cutting back on your almonds and rum. I like it when I feel like I am in control, not the food. Some almonds and rum (or whatever) are fine, as long as we choose to have them, and don't NEED to have them. The fact that I have gone MONTHS without peanut butter is so satisfying to me.
          thanks for that.......... I needed a bit of encouragement today. Peanut butter used to be my biggest weakness - but it gives me a stomach ache so its really pretty easy to avoid now.
          1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
          2. Eat to heal
          3. Move to live
          4. Embrace today
          5. Live with intention
          6. Respect my body
          7. Cultivate joy
          8. Find my passion
          9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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          • Originally posted by TStreich View Post
            I just wanted to say I also have Fibro and giving up artificial sweeteners (especially diet pop) made my symtoms decrease immensely and then I went primal and haven't had a flare since. (2 mo) I feel better then ever and loving life. I want to shout it from the rooftops. People think I am nuts when I explain primal to them and they always have some excuse why they can't try it. I am so happy I did and I am hoping with my continued success with it and sticking with it it will make some of those people come around.
            I'm SOOOO happy to hear this! When I first went primal I was amazed at how quickly my fibro pain and fatigue faded away! If I stay on the straight and narrow I feel so great! But if I deviate with the grains at ALL - like eating cookies or something - I suffer the consequences.

            I started this journal with the hopes that others would read it and see what going grain free can do for them. Keep spreading the word - but know that you will get negative responses the majority of the time. People just don't like to change the status quo.
            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
            2. Eat to heal
            3. Move to live
            4. Embrace today
            5. Live with intention
            6. Respect my body
            7. Cultivate joy
            8. Find my passion
            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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            • Concerning the mom/sister issue --- I'm just not sure what to do about it. I think I will just try to bring up the subject when my sister and I are out on the lake sometime this summer - (they also have a boat). Maybe I can ask her to take the second half of the month since she is able to sign moms checks, and mom likes to have her all bills ready to be mailed out by the 20th of each month.

              Okay -- yesterday the salad I ate for dinner made me have a really bad stomach ache. Could have been the fiber issue after an 18 hour fast??? (opinions welcome). I ate a few almonds around 9:00 pm and went to bed. I slept pretty good. Today I haven't eaten yet and I'm not even hungry. Its almost noon. I need to get ready for work so I won't be eating until I get home. That will make a 19 hour fast if I eat something as soon as I get home. Which reminds me....... I need to take out something for dinner. I'm thinking salmon tonight. yummy. Thats worth waiting for!

              I walked 2.75 miles this morning. In the wind and drizzle of Oregon. What happened to spring? Its grey and windy and all wet outside! BLAH! But on the UP side - my yard really needed a good watering - and this way I don't have to pay the city for the water! Thank you mother nature! DSCF0425.jpg This is one of my favorite plants - too bad they don't stay in bloom all summer!
              1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
              2. Eat to heal
              3. Move to live
              4. Embrace today
              5. Live with intention
              6. Respect my body
              7. Cultivate joy
              8. Find my passion
              9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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              • Originally posted by tomi View Post
                I'm SOOOO happy to hear this! When I first went primal I was amazed at how quickly my fibro pain and fatigue faded away! If I stay on the straight and narrow I feel so great! But if I deviate with the grains at ALL - like eating cookies or something - I suffer the consequences.

                I started this journal with the hopes that others would read it and see what going grain free can do for them. Keep spreading the word - but know that you will get negative responses the majority of the time. People just don't like to change the status quo.
                It is amazing how fast it changes. I too notice that grains do bring back some symptoms. Not pain so much (although if I went back completely to grains I know it would) but digestively. One of the issues I had with my Fibro was irritable bowel syndrome. If I eat to much grain now I can tell for the next few days. I generally have my burger wrapped in lettuce or just cut it up and eat it. Not worth the discomfort.

                Paleo/Primal Gluten-Free Baked Goods Recipes This is a great website for baked goods you can bake that you don't have to feel guilty about or worry about bothering you. Ofcourse in moderation lol. So far what I have tried has been good.
                Theresa

                SW 155 CW 148 GW 135-140

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                • I fasted for 16 hours today. Broke it with an ounce of almonds.

                  Theresa - thanks for the link. I might take a look at it - but I pretty much try to avoid baking goodies of any kind - primal or otherwise. Once in a while I will make my husband a batch of his favorite cookies - oatmeal chocolate chip peanut butter! (does it get any better than that?) I use the recipe for Nestles oatmeal chocolate chip, but reduce the butter a little and add peanut butter. He loves them. I try to make him wait a couple months between batches - or more if I can dissuade him from having to have them. I'm getting pretty good at making them without even having a sample of the dough. But I don't always make it without having one or two fresh warm cookies. OH SO BAD for me! I always feel it a few hours after eating them - the fibro pain comes back for a couple hours. I'm not real big on the psuedo-SAD recipes - you know, switching out the white flour for almond flour or something. For one thing -- all those safe flours are mega expensive! I was going to buy some almond flour a couple weeks ago and they wanted $10 for a 3 pound bag!!! NO cookie is worth spending that kind of money! If we absolutely have to have cookies I'll just make them with the nasty white stuff.

                  I took out the salmon when I got home from work -- if hubby is late then it will probably be thawed for dinner - but if he's not late - I might have to scramble for a meal. I'm running out of grass fed beef in the freezer! We're considering just buying Costco meat until we can get another cow butchered. But our farmer doesn't usually have one ready to go until the fall. We've been buying whole chickens and chicken breasts from Costco - its a regular name brand - I'm sure grown in some aweful warehouse setting where the chickens are all crammed into cages and fed corn and junk......... but I haven't found a source of chickens that are free range - but affordable. We do what we have to........ reach for the best, but take you can afford. Its a necessary trade off sometimes.

                  I was down to 188, but after a very bad week and weekend -- I'm back up to 191 today. EEESH. I'm tracking calories again so that should help. And I'm being more mindful of total fat for the day. Seems I always end up at about 50%. Maybe I need to drop the almonds again. If I drop all the high fat foods, but still eat primal healthy I should be good and I should start to see the pounds dropping off. Right?

                  Oh shoot - just talked to hubby - a very good friend is in the hospital with pneumonia so we're going to go to the hospital in about an 1/2 hour..... He's 88 years old - but still going strong. He helped my husband get the business started 20 years ago by loaning him a whole bunch of tools and equipment. And he's been a staple at the shop every since. This could end badly.... For those of you who pray --- please say a prayer for Gordon. Thanks..........
                  1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                  2. Eat to heal
                  3. Move to live
                  4. Embrace today
                  5. Live with intention
                  6. Respect my body
                  7. Cultivate joy
                  8. Find my passion
                  9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                  • Lovely rhodos, Tomi! I keep saying I'm going to buy one, but... On the other hand, I need some summer and fall colour. Spring is pretty well covered...

                    I can't chime in about what's making your tummy hurt. You'll just have to experiment till you figure it out.

                    The great thing about expensive cookies is that it's easier to limit yourself. At least if you are a cheapie like me! LOL! Only made one batch in the last five weeks, that's pretty good, right? Okay, and one batch of brownies, and a batch of muffins...

                    Remembering Gordon.
                    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                    - Lewis Mumford

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                    • Gordon is doing pretty good. They gave him the standard 10 days of antibiotic and it didn't kick it so the doc sent him to the hospital ER and they admitted him. Probably more due to his age than anything else. His color is good and he was not even coughing. I think he's going to be fine - but at his age, I'm sure this will take some of the spark out of him. I know we're not ready to lose Gordon yet.

                      This was another great day of eating healthy. We went out for dinner after going to the hospital and I had a salmon and cheese omelet with hashed browns. I only ate 1/2 the omelet - will have the other half for breakfast in the morning. So the day looked like this:

                      16 hour fast - broke at 1:00 pm with an ounce of almonds.

                      8 oz of orange/mango juice
                      2 oz of chicken breast w/honey mustard dip
                      1/2 salmon and cheese omelet
                      hashed browns
                      and ounce of almonds.

                      Total calories under 1000. 50% fat 25% protein and 25% carbs. Its a good day in Bedrock!

                      Hubby was complaining that there is NOTHING good to eat in the house! He is SOOOO not supportive of my need to NOT have junk food in the house. I'm not sure what to do about it. I feel guilty for not having the stuff in the house that he likes to eat - but I'm trying to help us ALL be healthy, not just keep myself from giving in to the unhealthy junk. He wants oreos and milk....... ugh. Whats a girl to do? How do you handle a non-supportive, non-primal spouse? He has no problem with my choice to eat this way - but he doesn't want to commit to it himself. He isn't willing to give up the grains and the sweets. And does he need to get healthy? YES! He's about 25 pounds over weight and has high cholesterol - just started taking statins.

                      He'll never give up his junk foods or his grains.......... I'm going to have to just learn to live with it.
                      Last edited by tomi; 05-23-2012, 04:44 PM.
                      1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                      2. Eat to heal
                      3. Move to live
                      4. Embrace today
                      5. Live with intention
                      6. Respect my body
                      7. Cultivate joy
                      8. Find my passion
                      9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                      • I got my honey a separate little refrigerator for his treats. Is that a possibility for you? He keeps it by his computer zone, and I never have to go near it or know what's in it. He also has a treats allowance to spend as he wills. Again, I don't have to have anything to do with it. We did this even before I went primal.

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                        • thats a great idea, Sabine! Just not practical for us. And I know myself well enough to know that if I know he has a stash - when I'm feeling weak - I'm gonna raid it! He likes to have cookies and junk at work - I'm going to ask him to please limit his snacking on junk food to the shop - and leave the home front healthy.

                          I put in my 2.75 mile loop again today. It feels good to be walking again. I LOVE biking - and it does burn more calories, but I feel like walking gives my body a better overall workout. Biking gives my legs a workout, especially my upper legs, but I don't feel it much anywhere else. Walking is good for the whole body. All my legs, my butt, my stomach, my back and a little in my arms (maybe). So, even though biking burns more calories - I'm going to keep walking. I'll bike with my honey for the fun of it!

                          Does it get any better than having salmon for breakfast? I finished off the omelet that had for dinner last night. YUMMY --- AND, I get to have it again for dinner! yeah! I sure hope our fishermen customers start getting generous with their catches cuz our freezer is looking very un-fishy! SAD DAY! I think I have 2 packages of Ling Cod (ick) and 4 or 5 salmon filets. That will only last a few months! I'm going to have to get my husband up and going for salmon fishing......... This could be a challenge cuz he's going to want to be at the lake on the boat all the time! If I can find a good place to salmon fish up NEAR the lake we can do BOTH! That will be my mission for the summer........... to find a good salmon fishing place up near the lake.

                          I still don't have the results of the saliva test. I wonder if she will even post it before my appt. I was hoping something was amiss so we could work on fixing it - at least I would have an answer for my weight loss stall. If there is nothing then I will have to buck up and seriously look at the way I'm eating. I haven't had any alcohol since the 8th - and no dark chocolate for about 3 weeks. I'm not eating bacon anymore either. I would think all that would help - since they are all very high fat/high calorie items - than I tended to have too much of. I guess I will forever be wrestling with the learning curve when it comes to finding a balance between nutrition and enjoying what I eat. It can't all be about whats healthy........ Food is supposed to be enjoyable - why else do we have taste buds? If it weren't for taste buds - we would all be eating brussel sprouts and liver and onions (I know, some of you truly enjoy those flavors...... me, not so much) But, we have yummy things like watermelon! healthy, but too much sugar. Dark chocolate - antioxidants, but loads of fat and some sugar! Ice cream.......... just plain YUMMO! but again, fat and sugar. Fat and sugar are my downfall!

                          So, I've pretty much come to the point of realizing that marrying my husband and adopting his poor eating habits is NOT his fault! Although, its so much easier to point the finger out than "in", you know? I always struggled to keep my weight under 140 when I was married to my ex........ when I hit 156 I promptly joined weight watchers and took it off, but it was a slow process. I think I have a genetic propensity (sp???) to be heavy. My 3 older sister have been obese most of their adult lives as well. Add in the emotional aspect of food, the comfort thing, and it spells out O-B-E-S-E Tomi! I always prided myself in staying "thin", as compared to my sisters......... at the age of 40 I was still in pretty good shape.......... then the divorce, the struggle to find work, the move to Oregon, the new marriage with the step-daughters who didn't want to share daddy........... a husband who loves to cook and eat..... fibromyalgia, rum and diet coke every night to sleep....... it all added up to a weight gain of 75 pounds over about 5 years. I topped out at 215. Bless my husbands heart - he loves me anyway! At my current weight of 190, I'm still very fat.

                          BUT............ I have found the answer......... and the remedy!!! This way of eating IS the answer. I just have to find what works best for me. Mark says the "sweet" spot for weight loss is between 50-100 carbs per day. But I'm not sure thats true for me - or most women in general. I also think women in general need to limit fats - something I haven't really focused on since going primal. If I look at the main sources of fat in my daily logs - it would be almonds, eggs, bacon and salad dressings. If I skip salads and only eat steamed or stirfried veggies I can eliminate the dressings. The almonds are just a filler - something to eat when I have that need to munch out of boredom, so those can go. I could switch out eggs and bacon for ground turkey or chicken with some candian bacon or just veggies, maybe sauteed onions and peppers? Like a scramble type thing? I'm not very good at coming up with new food ideas...... guess I should spend some time looking at the recipe section.

                          Anyway - I think I have some good goals and I'm on the right track. Hopefully the weight will start to drop as I implement things.
                          1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                          2. Eat to heal
                          3. Move to live
                          4. Embrace today
                          5. Live with intention
                          6. Respect my body
                          7. Cultivate joy
                          8. Find my passion
                          9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                          • I think orange/mango juice makes me bloat....... I drank a small glass after work, and now I feel like my tummy is bulging! I'm going to put on my gardening clothes and go putter in the yard for a bit before everyone gets home for the night. I have a rouge rose bush that needs to find a new place to live - and some tulips that need to moved also. I think its stopped drizzling for a while.

                            Holy Cow! My puttering turned into some transplanting - some digging up - some pruning - and mowing the entire yard! I'm POOPED! But the yard looks nice! I love a freshly mowed lawn!
                            Last edited by tomi; 05-23-2012, 06:30 PM.
                            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                            2. Eat to heal
                            3. Move to live
                            4. Embrace today
                            5. Live with intention
                            6. Respect my body
                            7. Cultivate joy
                            8. Find my passion
                            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                            • They make 6 packs of oreos... maybe when he's craving he can swing by the convenience store and pick up one of those little 6 pack sleeves keeping the quantity low in the house. My DH has the same complaint.

                              I talked about wheat with MIL today. She made it perfectly clear that she won't give up wheat, even though she agreed that wheat has been linked to fibromyalgia. So frustrating, but whatever... it's her pain, not mine, right? When she gets tired of it, maybe she'll come around.
                              Primal since March 5, 2012
                              SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                              • Tomi, maybe instead of concentrating on what not to eat, you could concentrate on what to eat. And don't cut out fats, although limiting them to moderate doses is essential.

                                But the main thing I would suggest is veggies, veggies, veggies! There are so many delicious ones, and so many marvellous ways to eat them! I have learned to actually enjoy squash in the last year or two, something I would have thought impossible before. And there are wonderful stir-fries, and salads (look for new recipes if you're bored with yours). 6-12 servings a day! If you just concentrate on getting your veggies in as a priority, the rest of the stuff will probably line up pretty easily.

                                I have beaten all kinds of bad habits not by tackling them head-on (because then I think about them all the time and absolutely can't shake them) but by crowding them out of my life with better things. Sometimes it wasn't even on purpose.
                                5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                                Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                                Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                                More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                                - Lewis Mumford

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