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  • So - on another note............ didn't take the calcium citrate yesterday for fear I was going to make myself constipated - and today - yup - diarrhea again! I was on my way to DMV to transfer a title - and I had to stop at Fred Meyers to use the bathroom! ARG! My apologies to the ladies in the bathroom with me.......... More indication that the calcium works. The article I read said you have to take it EVERY day or the diarrhea will come back. So, I'll take it everyday - but I think just one pill to see what happens. I mean, if I get constipated I can always take a magnesium pill to fix it!

    okay - bicycle time! SEE YA!!!
    1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
    2. Eat to heal
    3. Move to live
    4. Embrace today
    5. Live with intention
    6. Respect my body
    7. Cultivate joy
    8. Find my passion
    9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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    • Well, perversely, that's good news. Confirms you're on the right track.

      You know what? It's not the end of the world if we have to fight for every pound. That's what the last year has been like for me. But unlike most dieters, I was not packing it back on. So I considered myself a success. No, I'm not at my goal weight, but I am at a much healthier level than I was, and a much better-looking level than I was. You are also better off than you were. And the great thing is, if it comes off slowly, it's much less likely to come back on. You have been highly successful at maintaining your weight loss, which puts you in an elite group to begin with. And one day, you'll break through one of the barriers, and it will start falling off again. So don't despair. You're doing well.
      5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
      Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
      Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

      More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
      - Lewis Mumford

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      • Originally posted by Judg View Post
        Well, perversely, that's good news. Confirms you're on the right track.

        You know what? It's not the end of the world if we have to fight for every pound.

        You're doing well.
        thanks, Judg!!! I needed a bit of encouragement today. And your very good at give it! Thanks so much! And seeing your progress is certainly a boost and source of hope!

        Been sitting for a couple hours - (since I got back from my bike ride ) doing research on bile salts and cholesterol. What I did not realize is that cholesterol is a product of bile salts...... somehow. So, it seems practical to assume that if I have bile salts diarrhea, causing the years of diarrhea ---- and I have also suffered from high cholesterol since I was 30 which is probably right about the same time I started having severe diarrhea after everytime I ate - that there is a direct correlation between the two. So - why have NO doctors made a connection between my high cholesterol and my chronic diarrhea? It seems to me that if I can find a fix to the excessive bile salts, then I will also see a lowering of my cholesterol. Studies have shown calcium citrate to slightly lower cholesterol in very modest trials. Is this because calcium citrate binds bile acids in the small intestine, making it impossible for the bile salts from being re-obsorbed and preventing them from converting to cholesterol?

        could I possible have found something so simple that will treat 2 things that I have suffered with for 20 years? Wouldn't that be something!!!!
        1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
        2. Eat to heal
        3. Move to live
        4. Embrace today
        5. Live with intention
        6. Respect my body
        7. Cultivate joy
        8. Find my passion
        9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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        • That would be. And it doesn't surprise me doctors haven't made the connection. They aren't well-trained in that kind of thinking.

          Our doctors are absolutely excellent in dealing with trauma and with problems that arise from a germ or one clearly identifiable infectious agent. The complex interrelationships of food and body chemistry and lifestyle and stress and all of that, not so much. Chronic conditions, they are almost hopeless with. They have saved my life before and solved the kind of problems that can be solved with a knife or a pill - I'm not knocking them - but have been helpless against my fatigue and arthritis. So keep up with your research and careful self-experimentation. You're much more motivated than they are, and obviously smart enough to handle it.

          Oh rats. I'm getting an allergic reaction to something. What, for crying out loud?
          5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
          Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
          Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

          More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
          - Lewis Mumford

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          • tomi, after reading through this thread I felt compelled to respond. I haven't posted in this forum since my first experience a couple of months ago and it wasn't pleasant, so I have refrained but see myself in so many of your posts. When I first began my paleo journey in January, I read The Primal Blueprint and totally immersed myself in this way of life. At first I felt great, enlightened and full of energy. But as is usual in my case, I became totally immersed and found the forums. I read every single post on every single thread, just trying to learn. I went from eating a basic primal diet and feeling good to trying to fit in enough beef, eggs, bacon, butter and coconut oil to sink a ship! This was my own fault, not anyone else's. I overstudied, overanalyed and eventually overate, even though they were primal foods. I went from feeling great and loosing weight to being bloated, heavy and stressed trying to fit this plan into my life. I initially lost 13 pounds and the joint paint, stomach problems and afternoon slumps went away. But as I tried to add more and more of the foods into my diet that were recommended, I hit a wall. After a period of being frustrated, I went back and re-evaluated and realized that the eating plan I was trying to pattern mine after was what heavy-lifters and super athletes were recommending. Of COURSE this wasn't for me!

            I still believed in the Primal way of life but I also knew I had gotten off-track to what MY body needed. Three days ago I purchased a juicer and have been drinking spinach, kale, celery, carrots, tomatoes and all kind of other veggies with a little bit of fruit. I've done the juice exclusively during the day. The first afternoon I came home ready to chew my arm off! I had some avocado (actually I inhaled it, lol), some chicken breast and a few spoonfuls of yogurt as a snack before my evening juice (I added some coconut oil to my juice). I did the same yesterday, only with roasted pork I had cooked for my DH. Same today, but with some tuna and sauteed green beans.

            After being in a stall, I've lost 5 lbs in 3 days and I'm sleeping like a baby, feel refreshed and have a clear mind! Having had some of the same stomach issues you are having, I plan on adding some egg tomorrow and the next day and see how my body reacts. If everything is okay, I'll try adding beef for a couple of days. So on and so on. This is how I plan on getting my body back on track and tailoring the PB to suit my body. My mom has IBS and Fribro and I know if she walks by an egg, she has an attack so I figured this would be the best way to approach things. I hope I'm not the same way, cuz I LOVE a good poached egg on top of some steamed greens!!

            I know this was long, but so was my journey to get here! Good luck on YOUR journey

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            • @nikkismom --- HI and thanks for stopping by to share your story. First - sorry for your bad experience. These types of places can be brutal at times. You just have to shrug off the jerks and chalk it up to rudeness and bad manners. I have had some disturbing comments thrown my way as well. I don't take it personally.

              Its easy to get lost in all the information on this forum. One person will advise you to eat more of this and less of that, and the next person will tell you just the opposite. I'm so happy to hear you've found your way out of the muck and are listening to what your body needs. Thats what we all should do.

              I hope you come back again!
              1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
              2. Eat to heal
              3. Move to live
              4. Embrace today
              5. Live with intention
              6. Respect my body
              7. Cultivate joy
              8. Find my passion
              9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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              • Originally posted by Judg View Post

                Oh rats. I'm getting an allergic reaction to something. What, for crying out loud?
                UH OH --- what kind of allergic reaction? hope its nothing serious
                1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                2. Eat to heal
                3. Move to live
                4. Embrace today
                5. Live with intention
                6. Respect my body
                7. Cultivate joy
                8. Find my passion
                9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                • My allergies mainly show up on my skin. The back of my hands had a rash and the insides of my wrists were red and itchy several inches up my forearms. I have no clue what triggered it. I took an allergy pill and hoped it doesn't happen again. But I am still mystified.
                  5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                  Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                  Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                  More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                  - Lewis Mumford

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                  • okay - I'm getting back in the game!!!! yesterday I rode my bike - today I walked! Yeah.

                    breakfast = 2 eggs fried in the grease of 3 slices of bacon. Breakfast of champions!

                    Took all my supplements everyday this week! Plus probiotics and the added calcium citrate. My stomach was a mess yesterday, but so far so good! I won't skip the calcium again. I sure hope this fixes by problems cuz that would life so much easier!

                    The job interview for my son went well and they will most likely be making him an offer this coming week. If he gets the job he'll be moving out so he doesn't have such a long commute. Its looking very promising. I will miss my guy....... we've been through a lot together. His dad and I got divorced when he was 14 and we've battled with his social anxiety issues head to head - and once nearly fist to fist. I'll have to get used to not having him around all the time. But - its time, and he needs to do this.

                    Life is changing.........
                    1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                    2. Eat to heal
                    3. Move to live
                    4. Embrace today
                    5. Live with intention
                    6. Respect my body
                    7. Cultivate joy
                    8. Find my passion
                    9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                    • Originally posted by Judg View Post
                      My allergies mainly show up on my skin. The back of my hands had a rash and the insides of my wrists were red and itchy several inches up my forearms. I have no clue what triggered it. I took an allergy pill and hoped it doesn't happen again. But I am still mystified.
                      weird. I get rashes from some type of plants. Have you been doing any gardening?
                      1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                      2. Eat to heal
                      3. Move to live
                      4. Embrace today
                      5. Live with intention
                      6. Respect my body
                      7. Cultivate joy
                      8. Find my passion
                      9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                      • Not recently. I sometimes get that too, but then I know where it's coming from.

                        Well, it looks like our lives are going to be tracking each other again. My DS is making moving out noises too. I've been all alone before, so it won't be new to me. Of course, hubby will be home for the summer, so the all alone part isn't going to happen for a while. And then hopefully, I'll be preparing a move to the States.
                        5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                        Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                        Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                        More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                        - Lewis Mumford

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                        • @ Judg -- sure hope you can get your ducks in a row and make the move state side with the hubs. I hate seeing couples living apart for any reason.

                          I'm feeling so torn about my son moving out. I really want him to - but I'll miss him, and worry about him. His social anxiety issues have greatly limited his exposure to so much of life. But, he's ready to take it on so I am encouraging his choices. On the other hand - I'm SOOOO ready to be empty nesters. When Dennis and I got married his girls were 8 and 11, and my son was 15. We've never had time alone. I'm ready to be alone with my husband!!!!
                          1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                          2. Eat to heal
                          3. Move to live
                          4. Embrace today
                          5. Live with intention
                          6. Respect my body
                          7. Cultivate joy
                          8. Find my passion
                          9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                          • Mother's Day 2012. It was a good day.

                            Breakfast was sausage and eggs. Lunch was Butter Chicken and Tandori Chicken - no rice. Dinner was a sweet potato with butter and a little bit of brown sugar. I'm changing out the b. sugar for cinamon next time round - TOO sweet!

                            The weather has gone from chili and windy to TOO DANG HOT! Typical Oregon spring temp swings. I hate it!

                            No biking or walking today cuz we went from church to MILs to moms to home, into jammies and crashing! I'm so tired! But I'll be up and walking in the morning!

                            Hubby is sleeping on the chaise - not sure why he doesn't just go to bed...... purhaps the fact that its not quite 8 pm has something to do with it. He refuses to go to bed before 10 even when he's falling asleep on the sofa! Silly man!

                            Tomorrow I will mail in the spit samples - I hope to have results by the end of the week. Doc said to make an appt for a week after I mail in the spit thing. So I'll call tomorrow and see when I can get in. Is it wrong to hope for a low thyroid or something to give me answers to my dragging behind? The kelp seemed to make a little improvement in my energy - but not much. I will keep taking it unless doc tells me there is no need.

                            Intestinal issues boarderline today --- tummy ache and urgent need to use the restroom right after church - but no diarrhea. I'm thinking the sausage gave me a belly ache. I won't eat those again for a while.
                            Last edited by tomi; 05-13-2012, 07:57 PM.
                            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                            2. Eat to heal
                            3. Move to live
                            4. Embrace today
                            5. Live with intention
                            6. Respect my body
                            7. Cultivate joy
                            8. Find my passion
                            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                            • Okay - the spits in the mail! need to call and make an appt with doc for 2 weeks out.

                              Breakfast is eggs and bacon. As always.

                              Not feeling so good today. My gut is all messed up again this morning. Not sure if I'm going to make it to work or not. I have been taking calcium with magnesium - so I'm going to cut that one and take the kind without magnesium. Might have something to do with the sausage from breakfast yesterday still in my gutt. Its always a mystery.

                              Was just thinking - maybe I'll go back to tracking things again. I think I was doing better when I was counting calories and tracking my exercise. I think I'm less likely to eat stuff like ice cream if I have to be accountable for it in my logs.
                              Last edited by tomi; 05-14-2012, 11:28 AM.
                              1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                              2. Eat to heal
                              3. Move to live
                              4. Embrace today
                              5. Live with intention
                              6. Respect my body
                              7. Cultivate joy
                              8. Find my passion
                              9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                              • I hope you feel better soon.

                                I'm a long way off from being an empty nester as my kids are 5 and 2... But the days when DH and I can go out and not have to find a sitter or drag along two young kids and all their paraphernelia are appealing! But not so appealing that I'm wishing for time to pass. I like my wee ones.
                                Primal since March 5, 2012
                                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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