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  • Probably too late, but you can find decent meals at Olive Garden. I find it's actually easier to resist temptation in situations like that. I'm proud, I guess, and I don't want to be seen caving in front of somebody else. So I'm quietly and obnoxiously virtuous... And I am honestly scared to find out that eating wheat would make me sick. I keep telling myself I should have a plate of pasta or something to find out where my own personal tolerance is, and I just haven't been able to persuade myself to do it. I am officially weird.
    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
    - Lewis Mumford

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    • Originally posted by Primate View Post
      Jenn,

      I just read most all of the 93 pages of this journal. First, congrats on the 32# lost, that is a great achievement. Also what a fantastic achievement to be able to come off the Lexapro, great.

      I noticed that you seem to really like berries with coconut and whipped cream. I make the following:

      Put two cans of full fat coconut milk in the fridge over night. Open them the next day and skim the cream off the top of both cans into your mixing bowl and whip. In a double boiler melt some dark chocolate (at least 70% or higher) and add a little raw honey depending on the bitterness of the chocolate. Fold into the coconut cream and serve over berries. Better yet put the mousse into the fridge overnight to allow it to set better. Serve over berries. Simply amazing.
      Thank you for that. I will try that once my whole30 is over. Someone else, on another journal - I think maybe Judg, also takes berries, freezes them and then blends them with coconut milk to make gelato. Sounds delicious!


      Originally posted by Judg View Post
      Probably too late, but you can find decent meals at Olive Garden. I find it's actually easier to resist temptation in situations like that. I'm proud, I guess, and I don't want to be seen caving in front of somebody else. So I'm quietly and obnoxiously virtuous... And I am honestly scared to find out that eating wheat would make me sick. I keep telling myself I should have a plate of pasta or something to find out where my own personal tolerance is, and I just haven't been able to persuade myself to do it. I am officially weird.
      I am the same way, Judg! I don't want to cave in front of everyone. I want to prove that I'm stronger than them by not eating those foods and then internally gloating the next day when I feel great and they feel like crap.

      That being said, my husband expressed last night that he feels guilty choosing Olive Garden, not because it's difficult for me, because really, the more I think about it, the less difficult I think it'll actually be, but because he feels he should be following my lead and he's not. He's just not ready yet, but he's feeling guilt like he should be. I tried to explain to him that what he's feelign is normal and he should be no means change his behavior simply because I have... he has to change when he's ready. I explained to him that I researched this lifestyle for a LONG time before I finally decided to give it a shot. I don't know if that helped relax him or not, but I hope it did. He has to do what he wants to do on his own timeline, and I think that's what has been our problem lately. I'm moving right along and he's feeling guilty for not coming along, even though he's not ready yet. I really do think this lifestyle of mine is causing the problems we're experiencing right now, but I won't give up feeling this good just to relax the tensions in our marriage. We have to figure out how to work around the lifestyle differences and move on. That's exactly what I'm doing tonight by agreeing to go to Olive Garden for him. He wants to go there for his birthday, and it's my responsibility to make sure I can follow the rules. I'll have to ask for certain oils, and none of this, none of that, but it'll be fine.

      I did mention that Texas Roadhouse would be so much easier b/c I can better control what goes onto the food, but his reason for picking Olive Garden is that we have steak, pork chops, etc, every day of the week, so going to Texas Roadhouse is no longer "special" like it used to be. Ok, I can respect that. No problem. So, I think we're still going to Olive Garden, which will work out fine. I have an idea of what I would like to order, and I'll specifically mention that I need whatever it is to be cooked with olive oil (although even that is a bad idea b/c it's not heat tolerant) or with no oil at all. Maybe that would be best. I'll have to look at the menu again and see what they have going on with the gluten free menu to see if oils will even be a problem or not. I think fish sounds yummy for tonight. Shrimp maybe.
      Primal since March 5, 2012
      SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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      • Herb-Grilled Salmon
        Salmon filet brushed with Italian herbs and extra-virgin olive oil. Served with seasoned broccoli.
        $17.95

        Holy crap look at that price?!?!?!
        Primal since March 5, 2012
        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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        • Steak Toscano
          Grilled 12 oz choice center cut Strip steak brushed with Italian herbs and extra-virgin olive oil. Served with Tuscan potatoes and bell peppers.
          $19.95

          These are both on the gluten free menu. The rest of the gluten free menu items have no prices on them, and they're not featured on the regular menu so I can't estimate cost before I go... *sigh*
          Primal since March 5, 2012
          SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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          • These are my other two options:

            Mixed Grill
            Skewers of grilled steak and chicken marinated in Italian herbs and extra-virgin olive oil. Served with broccoli and grilled vegetables.


            Mixed Grill (all chicken)
            Skewered chicken marinated in Italian herbs and extra-virgin olive oil. Served with broccoli and grilled vegetables.


            Sadly, all the shrimp recipes come with a butter sauce or a cream sauce.

            I might go with the mixed grill with the steak and the chicken... or the salmon. That sounds good too. I wonder why they don't have any grilled shrimp on the menu... bastards! lol
            Primal since March 5, 2012
            SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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            • I have found that many gluten-free menus are lacking in fats, which makes me sad. Grilled stuff is usually safe though. I always go with fish at restaurants, for some reason. I guess because I don't eat it that often.
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              • Not sure if I'm too late in chiming in that you might be able to find an Olive Garden coupon online or printable that would make the meal a little less expensive. I always check retailmenot dot com and the like for coupons for eating out. We rarely eat at chain restaurants but are on the mailing list for some local ones and often use 25% off or free kids' meal coupons.

                Is there a Mon Ami Gabi by you? It's a French steakhouse type place with good steaks and a gluten free menu. I've gotten the steak frites sans the frites subbed with a great salad with a poached egg on top.

                Anyway, enjoy your meal! I hope you have a great time.
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                • Sadly, no coupons for the OG on the site. We have a budget of $65 for tonight, so I'm sure we can make it work, it just seems a bit pricy for something that's probably farm raised... lol
                  Primal since March 5, 2012
                  SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                  • You know, most Italian restaurants have chicken or fish dishes with veggies and pasta as a side. I just ask them to substitute extra veggies for the pasta. I've had some fantastic meals that way.

                    My hubby is getting a bit jealous too. He's willing to go along with my way of eating at home, but cheats a lot elsewhere. He hasn't lost much and it's getting to him, I think. Poor guy has too many other things going on right now though. It's so hard to lose weight when you're stressed out.
                    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                    - Lewis Mumford

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                    • I considering going back on medication. I've been very unhappy lately, angry almost, and I think I've discovered why. I don't like a lot of people I thought I liked and it's making me feel very lonely and angry. I've found I don't much care for a lot of people that I spend a lot of time with, and most of them I spend time with because I have no other choice as they're family. And part of me thinks the feeling is mutual. I have no friends in real life. And I say this b/c I have invited people to do things, who have declined for whatever reason, and then the next week, that person does the thing I invited them to do, but they invited someone else to join them instead of me. That makes me feel pretty crappy actually. If we were friends, they'd invite me back, right? I have one girlfriend that I know would include me in everything she does, but sadly, she lives in Florida, and I do not.

                      I don't know if being on medication made me blind to this stuff, or if it made me a different person or what. All I know is that right now, things aren't what I thought they were and I don't like it. I don't even have anything in common with my husband anymore it seems. He doesn't want to do the things I want to do, and I don't want to do the things he wants to do. That makes me sad too.

                      Maybe I need to make an appt with a therapist. Maybe I'm harboring a lot of baggage that got stuffed down when I was taking medication that's resurfacing now that the filter isn't there anymore. I think I'll try that. I'll call on Monday to talk to the therapist.

                      I don't know if the way I'm feeling is b/c I'm having resurfacing of buried issues or if it's a direct result of the steroids plus sugar withdrawals or what... I just know I don't like it and I'm almost tempted to break my whole30 to see if it's a sugar issue.

                      Bottom line, today is not a happy day. Today sucks. Maybe I'll load up the kids and head to the state park for a walk. Get some sunlight and nature instead of scrubbing my disgusting bathroom.
                      Primal since March 5, 2012
                      SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                      • I don't have any close friends near me either. All of my "soulmate" friends live 3+ hrs away. It sucks, I know.
                        Primal since 9/24/2010
                        "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                        • Sorry you're having a sad time of it. I'm pretty solitary by nature so don't miss companionship in the way others do, but I can see how it could get you down. Tough to go out and make friends when you've got family stuff going on, so that probably contributes to how you're feeling. As far as your other 'friends' go, maybe drugs aren't the answer, maybe new friends are. Ones that you don't have to drug yourself to stand. Family is another matter though; there are a couple in mine that I could do without, too, but luckily they live far away.



                          Cheer up soon.
                          5' 9" 47 YO F
                          PB start June 2, 2012
                          Pre PB SW = 180 (no scale at home, Mom's scale January - 153lbs!)
                          Current deadlift 245 lbs, squat 165 lbs, bench press 135 lbs


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                          • Thanks June and Paula. I think this no-sugar thing is really taking it's toll on me. I've never felt this badly on a W30 before. I think I really was curbing my sugar addiction with fruit. I hope it ends soon b/c I really don't like feeling so angry and negative.
                            Primal since March 5, 2012
                            SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                            • Jenn, did you end up going out? I think nature therapy sounded like an excellent idea.

                              I can't give any good advice concerning eating or not eating fruit, or meds, or anything like that. I know that for myself, it is my faith that has kept me grounded through some very difficult times. And to find the will to work through the problems in our marriage, and learn to love the man I actually had instead of the one I had imagined I was getting. Fortunately he was willing to do the same for me. Don't think it was fast or easy, it wasn't. But it was worth the effort. And the future effort.

                              Do remember that the Whole30 is not a moral obligation though. Easing up just a wee bit could be a valid form of self-experimentation. But you are a better judge of that than I am.
                              5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                              Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                              Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                              More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                              - Lewis Mumford

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                              • Judg, thanks. I chose to cut fruit b/c in previous W30 attempts, I ate fruit whenever I craved sugar, which prevented me from actually breaking my "addiction" to sugar, according to the logic in It Starts with Food. I think what they say is accurate b/c this whole30 has been SOOO much more difficult than previous W30's. I'm 6 days in. The sugar addiction should be breaking soon. First 2 weeks are the roughest, according to testimonies.
                                Primal since March 5, 2012
                                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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