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  • About probiotics........ my doc said ONLY buy the kind that they keep in the fridge - in the health food section or at the health food store. If they aren't kept at fridge temps the little bugs just die off - so you're throwing away your money.
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    • Exactly true Tomi. Sorry I forgot to mention that point. Same with fish oils. I used to think it was normal to burp them. Found out they are to be in the fridge also and if you taste them, they are spoiled. It's hard to find good quality stuff that doesn't cost a fortune.

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      • Thanks for quoting me Albert... now experience the black triangle of death and my ignore button...

        As for probiotics... i think yogurt does more than just "feed" the gut flora. In the yogurt I just ate, it said it's made with live and active cultures of S. Thermophilus, L. Bulgaricus, L. Acidiphilus, Bifidus and L. Casei. Those are all the probiotics that are listed in the probiotics I saw at the stores. However, I didn't buy any b/c the ones that were available at the grocery store had stuff in them I didn't want - either additional vitamins, or corn starch or other such garbage.

        I have a zit on my forehead by my eyebrow and it hurts. Stupid dairy. That's got to be the cause. I went the whole month with zero breakouts and now I have a huge, tender, likely deep zit... awesome. I really think once these antibiotics are done, I'll be giving up dairy again. Maybe I'll have cheese or something when the mood strikes, but no more daily consumption.

        I haven't taken my lexapro since last Wednesday. And so far so good. The zaps have been minimal and tolerable. I did have a moment of exhaustive frustration bordering on anger Sunday night when neither of my kids would go to sleep, but I recognized it for what it was and did my best to control it. I recognized that it was just frustration and frustration can be dealt with.

        Question about measurements. When you do your measurements, do you "let it all hang out" in the gut area? I usually do, but I almost wonder if I "force" it out as well. Maybe for now on, I'll just stand comfortably and where ever my belly is without consciously sucking it in, etc, i'll measure that. The reason I ask this is b/c I compared my measurements and my belly went up an inch, while everything else went down, so that makes me wonder if maybe I wasn't as "relaxed" and "letting it all hang out" naturally - like I was almost pushing it out or something. So, i'll remeasure my waist and belly and see what I come up with and then just stick to that method each time. Once I get that done, I'll report my comparison.

        On the cough front - things are getting MUCH better quickly. My ribs no longer hurt unless I flex my abs, and when I do that, it just feels sore like it's been overworked, rather than painful like something's wrong. The cough is minimal and productive. Last night it hit about 9:00 as I was cleaning up the kitchen and getting ready for bed. The codeine works well... I fell asleep reading Dracula last night. I woke up this morning with every fiber of my being begging to go back to bed. I wish more than anything that I had been able to oblige. Stupid work... it's always messing up my sleep plans! lol There's still a bit of a candida problem and it's quite annoying, but I have faith that it'll go away soon.

        I better get moving. Gotta go retake that measurement and then get some reading done for class. I'm a paper behind b/c I was sick last week and didn't feel like doing it. Now I have two papers due for this class, plus all the garbage for my other class. I'll be glad when the next 3 weeks are over and I'm done with these classes!
        Primal since March 5, 2012
        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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        • Fish oil is supposed to be in the fridge? Oops...
          5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
          Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
          Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

          More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
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          • When I measure, I have Boyfriend do it so I'm not tense at all. I stand straight, adjust my posture as needed, take a few deep breaths, and measure when I'm mid-breath. So there's some slight tension at holding the breath, but I'm not pushing anything out or flexing or sucking in. You can do this yourself, but looking down (when measuring waist) might change the measurement.
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            • ugh, I feel so bloated today. and lethargic and tired and sleepy and not with it. I don't know what to blame on the dairy and what to blame on the medications. And I feel stopped up... Yes, dear sweet, dairy... you may have to take a hike.
              Primal since March 5, 2012
              SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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              • Originally posted by KimT View Post
                Glad you are on the mends! Hope you feel better soon. I kinda stalk your thread.

                As for the probiotic issue, have you considered getting it in pill form? That way you aren't subjecting yourself to the sugars and the side effects of the dairy? I just looked the chobani pineapple flavor up and it has 18g of sugar, 21g carbs, and only 4 strains of probiotics. You'd need to find a good quality brand though. I use Ultra Jarro-Dophilus, which has 40 billion organisms per capsule and has 10 probiotic strains.

                Just thought I'd mention it. Speedy recovery!
                Kim, I was looking at Amazon for the Ultra Jarro-Dophilus you mentioned (here) and it says it's only 8 strains. I'm sure it doesn't matter THAT much if it's 8 or 10 strains, but I was curious to see if this was the same one you use or if there was a different one I should be looking at.

                Thanks!!
                Primal since March 5, 2012
                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                • Originally posted by Cupcake4248 View Post
                  Jenn- I just went to hyvee and got some unsweetened kefir to try
                  How was the kefir??
                  Primal since March 5, 2012
                  SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                  • Great timing! I was just stalking your journal and saw your post. I was looking up the one I use to post to you and saw your post to me. (does that make sense?). Anyway, this is the one I use Jarrow Formulas : Ultra Jarro-Dophilus

                    It comes highly recommended by a doc I see. He owns a lab in Singapore and ships certain products there for testing to be sure they are what they claim to be. He's been a great wealth of information, not to mention he's the one that got me started on grain-free eating in the first place. He's also got a photographic memory. I take him very seriously when he suggests stuff.

                    Judg, same doc as above says that quality fish oil should be sold from and stored in the fridge. If you ever taste it (when you burp), it's spoiled. I used to have fishy burps all the time, just thought that was normal.

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                    • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                      How was the kefir??
                      it was pretty good...not as thick as yogurt but tasted exactly the same. I put some cinnamon and blueberries in it and ate it like that and it was good!
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                      • Now... here is a silly question... how does the good bacteria get from the intestinal tract to the, eh-hem, girly area??? I'm not finding a problem with my gut, really... it's the other area that is having problems as a result of too many antibiotics...
                        Primal since March 5, 2012
                        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                        • I am very curious about this as well and I'm afraid I have no idea. I believe it is partially PH levels in the body. If there is an irregularity (could be caused by antibiotics) and THAT is what is causing the vaginal infection, probiotics can help regulate the levels and the body will handle the infection on its own. Or it could be a blood thing, as I know the yeast overgrowth I had was determined from a blood test, but I don't think probiotics end up in the blood? Could be wrong.

                          Either sufficient probiotics or a course of an anti-fungal should help with the YI, but it can take some finagling to get it right. Sorry you are dealing with that! They suck. It's hard to combat them when you're on antibiotics, in my experience. Check out Whole Foods for tea tree therapy or potential suppository treatments, those are usually pretty effective, but the problem may be recurring until you are done with the antibiotics...
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                          • Dr gave me a prescription to tackle it. I was just curious how the "transfer" from one part of the body to the other takes place. pH balance makes sense, actually.

                            I am a space cadet today. These medications are certainly building up. I have been spacey all day long - forgetting to get information to my boss in a timely manner, forgetting where he said he's going so when people show up looking for him I don't know where to send them, etc. I just used the albuterol inhaler b/c I started coughing on my walk and it wasn't very productive, and now I'm all jittery and anxious and just not feeling right. Sad b/c this is only day 3 of the new treatment plan, which means there are 7 more to go before I feel "normal" again. I wish I could just take a nap...
                            Primal since March 5, 2012
                            SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                            • I don't know how it's supposed to work either...just spent about 10 minutes on google trying to figure it out and the only thing I found was people saying to put the yogurt in "there" which seems questionable at best. Then I googled how to get rid of yeast infections and found what seemed to be a good article at a college website. Sadly the person who wrote it referred to "the bacteria in the crotch of wimmin" oh man. Sorry I can't be of much help but I hope I provided some entertainment.
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                              SW:176
                              SPW: 125
                              CW: 121
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                              • lol too funny. There is no way in HELL I would put yogurt "in there" even if there was medical validity to back it up b/c there is a sugar content there that should NOT be injected into such a place... sugar is bad, yo! You want a VBI?? Insert sugar! Never experienced it personally but have heard some nasty horror stories!!
                                Primal since March 5, 2012
                                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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