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  • Agreed with NK on the juicing.

    Good luck with the interview! That is exciting & must be rather nerve-wracking too!
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    • Oh wow, I missed the interview news! Good luck, Jenn!
      (You don't need it, because you can this thing's ass from here to Sunday, but buena suerte!)
      Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, steak in one hand, chocolate in the other, yelling "Holy F***, What a Ride!"
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      • Originally posted by naiadknight View Post
        While I would agree that inflammation/ inflammatory pain is the root cause, I'd say their theory is fluff. What I've actually noted with my n=1 experimentation is that inflammation can last far longer in the body than the offending food. The body reacts in such a way as to wall off the offending food, but not with fat cells. It does it with white blood cells and phagocytes. When white blood cells kick into action, so does inflammation, or pressure and heat to drive out the offending article. If this happens long enough, the nearby fats cells load up with inflammatory solution to help keep the threat at bay semi-permanently. I theorize that people get sick more often while eating crappily because the body already has all the white blood cells occupied, and thus can send none, or very few, after the germ, because it views the offending food item as a more powerful and dangerous enemy. It takes the body quite a while to let go of the phagocytes that take care of the offending food item. In some cases, it can pass in a matter of hours. The more I deal with my allergy, the more I theorize that some of this inflammation has been in place for a VERY long time, and the body has come to recognize it as a constant defense, like a wall, and is hesitant to tear it down, so it would take much longer.
        I realize that is grotesquely oversimplified, but that's a short version of what seems to be happening in my body.
        And, as to juicing, I'd say don't bother. It takes out good stuff that the body needs, leaving pure simple carbs and a few vitamins that may or may not oxidize before he can drink it. There has GOT to be some veggie prep the man will eat. If it takes cheese, then give him the cheese as a crutch. You don't hafta eat it just because he does.
        The toxins the video was talking about was specifically fat soluable toxins. And not that the body uses fat as its only defense - it was just talking about why exercise without diet change doesn't work (from a deeper than calories in vs calories out standpoint).

        I don't typically agree with juicing either - for the very reason you stated - the carb load, insulin response, lack of fiber, etc (thank you Dr. Lustig)... but the guy in the video was right, by my opinion, when asked "Why not just eat the veggie?" He said the problem with eating veggies is that people don't... and juicing is a great way for those who don't eat them to get the vitamins and nutrients found in them. Additionally, adding a bunch of veggies to an already unhappy gut (from all that junk) is often not beneficial (hello smelly gas) b/c they're hard for the compromised gut to digest. Juicing makes them more easily digested and absorbed (quicker use of the materials) reducing the shock to the gut, while providing the dieter's best bang for their buck - they get the nutrients without all the negative gut reaction. This in turn helps to stimulate healing in the gut, which then makes it possible for someone to start eating loads of veggies - as they should. The way they made it sound was that juicing is a temporary solution that can lead to a long term solution for those who don't currently eat a wide range of veggies.

        And, the only "veggie" he'll eat right now is canned green beans, corn (hence the quotes around veggies) and potatoes. My kids eat vegetables better than my husband. The kids will eat broccoli. Brad won't.
        Primal since March 5, 2012
        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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        • Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
          Agreed with NK on the juicing.

          Good luck with the interview! That is exciting & must be rather nerve-wracking too!
          Originally posted by naiadknight View Post
          Oh wow, I missed the interview news! Good luck, Jenn!
          (You don't need it, because you can this thing's ass from here to Sunday, but buena suerte!)
          Thanks. I'm excited and nervous. Nervous b/c it's an interview and I want to do well, but also nervous b/c I'm really comfortable where I am - I can show up (repetively) 5 minutes late for work and no one bats an eye. If I take the new job, I'll have to work harder to get to work on time - that's if the hours even work out for me.

          There's also the problem that my lunchtime activities may be in jeopardy. Working for the general is quite a bit busier than working for the colonel, so I may not be able to take my long lunches - AND, I won't be able to stretch them past the 50 minutes like I can here. Internet activity will probably be greatly reduced too. I'll inquire about the hours and lunch activity options if I'm selected for the position and make my decision then. I also have to ask about the possibility of a reduction in force and what the risks would be to this particular position. Lots to think about - and it'll require me to actually become an adult and show some responsibility for once. No more showing up late and skirting under the radar at that level.

          With the position comes a rank increase (not a pay increase b/c I held that rank once before). A rank increase is pretty important even when no money is involved. But, I suspect I'll still be at the bottom of the food chain in regard to rank structure like I am here.
          Primal since March 5, 2012
          SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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          • Good luck, Jenn! If its what you want I really hope it works out!

            As for the diet/exercise debate........... I tend to agree with the theory that eating junk undermines any exercise efforts -- as for juicing........... yes, its a good way to ease into eating whole healthy real foods. But - I think you can do smoothies and still keep the fiber and good stuff -- just have to buy a really kick-ass blender. I've been looking for one that will pulverize whatever fruit/veggie mix you want to put in it. I'd like to do smoothies once I get my gut issues sorted out. A sore intestinal tract doesn't like roughage. Good luck getting some nutrients into Brad!

            And......... the note to self was great! I've had many of those conversations with my "self" and I have to say - they eventually start to sink in and make a difference So, keep up the self-talk!
            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
            2. Eat to heal
            3. Move to live
            4. Embrace today
            5. Live with intention
            6. Respect my body
            7. Cultivate joy
            8. Find my passion
            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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            • Merry Christmas, Jenn!

              I hope all the family junk got worked out and you and your's have a wonderful time together!
              1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
              2. Eat to heal
              3. Move to live
              4. Embrace today
              5. Live with intention
              6. Respect my body
              7. Cultivate joy
              8. Find my passion
              9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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              • Merry, merry Christmas, to you!! *singing*

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                • Merry Christmas Jenn!
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                  "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                  • Merry Christmas, Jenn!
                    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, steak in one hand, chocolate in the other, yelling "Holy F***, What a Ride!"
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                    • Thanks everyone for the wishes for a Merry Christmas. I feel it was a good one and Toys R Us puked in my living room, so the kids had a good one too. Enjoyed my time with family but ready to get back to eating real food. I have never felt as bloated as I have over the last few days! Oy!

                      All set for good eats tomorrow. Made baked bbq chicken tonight with baby reds/butter and green beans/butter. Brad even said there's something to be said about a nice simple meal at home and how it made a huge difference with the way he felt post meal. Brady asked for pizza tonight and I said "No, I'm thinking something along the lines of gluten free." Brad said "I agree with that." It's good to know he's felt the difference too.

                      Tomorrow starts my 21 Day Sugar Detox. I will be including sweet potatoes, as allowed for athletes. Starting January 1, I will step up to level 3 sugar detox and start my Whole30, which will be utilized through March - so three months of Whole30. It's the only solution I know to the 20 extra pounds, the sciatic pain, the peroneal nerve pain, the slight tendonitis I feel in my left elbow, and the incredible amount of bloat I feel, not to mention the digestive unhappiness. Oh, and the sugar cravings. Gotta beat off these sugar cravings! Presently, I'm having trouble running any distance, so I have to fix this. 20 lbs gained in 3 months (well, less than that, but I don't remember when the 20th pound hit - maybe right before Thanksgiving??) is a very bad sign - not to mention completely unhealthy, and very likely contributing to some of the issues I've had running (try adding a 20 lb vest to your workout routine and see if things start to hurt or not).

                      So, this is it. No more screwing around. I'm back on board. For real this time. The finish line is in sight.
                      Primal since March 5, 2012
                      SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                      • Hey Jenn,

                        How does the 21 day sugar detox differ from Whole30? I just bought the 21 day... book and will read at the gym this morning.
                        Primal since 9/24/2010
                        "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                        • It has levels of 'difficulty'. For instance, level 1 is simply cutting out grains. Level 2 goes a little deeper by eliminating certain veggies and fruits (i.e. white potatoes), and level 3 goes as far as cutting out dairy. I'll be doing level 2 until my Whole30 starts.

                          The sugar detox eliminates fruit, where the Whole30 does not have restrictions on fruit. And depending on the level you do in the 21DSD, you are allowed dairy, where you're not on the Whole30. Same simple principles apply, but there are some pretty major differences.
                          Primal since March 5, 2012
                          SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                          • I was just talking to a friend on Facebook who's husband drives for UPS. He has been complaining about joint pain and body aches for months now and he really wants to give Paleo a try as a solution. His wife (my friend) said that paleo works well for them except during the kids' sports seasons where all three kids are in 3 different sports, which requires a LOT of run around and not much home time. I mentioned to her that Well Fed has a great system in it for precooking and prepping food for fast assembly when it's needed. I remembered that Candy granted my access to her Dropbox account that has Well Fed in it and my sister in law gave me her copy to "use as long as I want" b/c she didn't find any recipes in it she liked. I leafed through it that day and found a couple of recipes I'd be interested in, but didn't really read the prep portion of it. I think I'll give that a good solid read and see what kind of system I can work out of it. I really need a system that's better than my current routine.
                            Primal since March 5, 2012
                            SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                            • Some weird switch has been flipped in my head. I used to be the type of person who would take leave on a whim - skip out of work if the roads were the slightest bit slippery and stay home for the day. All of a sudden, that's not the case anymore. Brad asked me if I want to take next Thursday and Friday off with him and I'm hesitant to do so. My first concern was my leave balance (over 100 hours built up - which is 12 1/2 days of vacation). My second concern was what we would do with that time - I don't want to waste my leave just sitting on the couch, you know... My third concern was keeping on the straight and narrow with my food. And fourth was whether or not I'd be able to run. I would have rathered take today and tomorrow off.

                              What the hell happened to me? I used to be a leave burning machine and now it's like pulling teeth getting me to take time off work... I have so many things I could do if I had two days off - go through the kids' toys, purge out the ones they don't play with anymore/grown out of, clean up the hotspots in our kitchen, clear the clutter from our bedroom - essentially spring cleaning on a level lower than the disinfection level. Decluttering, I guess - for two days... yippee. lol

                              I think the switch might have been flipped thanks to the furloughs last summer. I remember wanting to conserve my leave and use furlough time to do all the things I wanted to do. Sadly, I didn't get nearly as much done as I would have liked thanks to half marathon training. The running and subsequent ice baths and showers really ate up a lot of time.

                              ***

                              I'm also nervous about this job interview. I think it's going to require me to buy new clothes to do the same job I do now (but busier) and require me to be to work earlier, maybe not run over lunch, etc. That worries me. SIL doesn't open until 7 am, so getting to work earlier would not be possible. If I couldn't run over lunch (or do any form of fitness over lunch) my fitness aspirations would come to an end b/c there's no time before or after work (see previous comment about babysitting and raise with having family responsibilities in the evening).

                              Telling my boss about it is kind of unnerving too. It's career progression so I know he'll be cool with it. It's just always been a thing that I job hunted b/c I didn't like my job or didn't like my boss. It's never been a career sort of thing so I'm not used to job hunting being a good thing. And I know if I'm selected and I take it, I'll put my office in a bind and I don't want to do that.

                              I won't just be taking a different job in a different office with a different boss. I'll be moving to a completely different command. Since I started on the Island, I have always worked for the same command. This is like taking a job with a completely different company when you've worked at the same one your whole "career". And for a high level executive when you've always worked with middle management. It's a bit unsettling and seems out of my reach - responsibility wise - b/c I'm not the most responsible person. I'm 5 minutes late to work every single day - no matter how early I get up, I always manage to be 5 minutes late. This job will require me to put my big girl panties on and become an adult... it's kind of scary.

                              I guess, fear of the unknown is the common theme today... *sigh*
                              Last edited by jenn26point2; 12-26-2013, 09:39 AM.
                              Primal since March 5, 2012
                              SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                              • I told my lower ranked boss about the interview. He thanked me for telling him and bid me good luck. I know the higher ranked boss will do the same, but it's that mindset that people only leave when they're not happy that's got me tripped up. I'm not in LOVE with my job, and it's not what I want to do for the rest of my life, but I don't HATE it or anything... it's a weird mindframe to have, actually.
                                Primal since March 5, 2012
                                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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