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  • So, Thursday I went out for dinner to farewell my boss. It was a buffet type dinner. I believe I talked about it. Anyway, the food was anything BUT whole30, but for $25 a person, I wasn't going to settle for just plain chicken, so I ate what was offered. I think that opened the door to my newest feelings of being victimized by the Whole30 plan. Let me explain:

    Saturday, the races were cancelled so everyone decided to go out to eat. I tried to suggest a full service buffet (Golden Corral is a full service buffet with just about any food a person could ask for) when they brought up the desire for pizza. No one wanted to go to Davenport (25 miles), so everyone, except me, agreed to go to Pizza Ranch, which is a medium quality pizza buffet that has a salad bar and fried chicken in addition to pizza. Since SIL is also doing Whole30 this time around, I asked her what she planned to do. She said she was just going to pick the breading off the chicken - which turned out to be a gigantic pain in the ass and I'm sure I still consumed some unwanted gluten. So, while everyone else was eating pizza and I would have done just about anything to eat the toppings (and enjoy some dessert pizza - gluten bomb! sugar bomb!), I stuck with salad and fried chicken. I wasn't a very happy camper, but I made it work.

    Then yesterday, Brad made pancakes for the kids... I really wanted pancakes. But not the gluten infested ones he made... I wanted either coconut flour pancakes or cream cheese pancakes... of course, both are off limits for varying reasons - all b/c they don't fit the Whole30 framework. No paleo-fying, no sweeteners, etc. Bah!

    So I didn't eat breakfast yesterday and all day long I felt munchy and bored. I ate a lot of fruit - grapes, watermelon (probably half of a freaking watermelon made it into my tummy yesterday), nuts... I finally felt satisfied once dinner came around: non-compliant bratwurst (I still have yet to find a brat that does not contain any crap in it), non-compliant sauerkraut (has preservatives... why? isn't the purpose of pickling to preserve?? why does it need additional preservatives??), and a non-compliant wedge salad (wedge of iceberg lettuce) with (gasp) Hidden Valley Ranch dressing, and a whole tomato.

    All weekend long I felt like I was being victimized b/c I was Whole30... It was really annoying. And I almost said screw it and let it all go to eat what I wanted - pizza toppings, paleo pancakes, homemade, primal compliant ranch dressing - but I didn't... instead, I sulked over the crappy fried chicken and ate non-compliant ranch dressing. Hidden Valley Ranch dressing is still amazing, by the way.

    Today, I decided to stop being a victim and just go with it. When I let it work, it worked. I lost weight. I felt better. I slept better. I thought better. And I wasn't stuffy or phlegmy.

    That being said, there seems to be a new craze going around called Diet Bet. You join with a group of friends, do your own thing to lose weight and bet a certain amount of money that you can lose a certain amount of weight by a certain time. There is one my friend is hosting for $25, lose 4% of your body weight (for me that would be 7 lbs in 28 days) and split the pot. 4% of my body weight is 7 lbs... 7 lbs in 3 weeks is 2.33 pounds per week. At my current rate, I'd lose my money... but at the rate I WAS moving when the Whole30 kicked in, I'd win my money back... I am considering doing this, but will probably wait until next month... holy shit! I can't believe next month is August already! Where has the year gone!
    Primal since March 5, 2012
    SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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    • Speaking of financial stress (re: my comment on Geostump's journal)... just balanced the checkbook... Ultimate suck... playing catch-up. I hate that. And worst part, Brad spent money today - money we didn't have, that I didn't realize we didn't have until today, and I still have to put gas in my car... *sigh*
      Primal since March 5, 2012
      SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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      • Since going primal, I've gone from a size 8-9 wide width in shoes to an 8-9 narrow width depending in the manufacturer.

        Right now, we'd be financially hurting if Clint didnt have the side work he's getting. He had his interview with Auto Zone last Friday and he's waiting to hear back if he gets it. I really wish he weren't against me working part time, but he is.
        Georgette

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        • Jen:

          Sorry about this weekend. I always feel the same way around my in laws. It seems like they go out of their way to eat non-food items. Seriously, DH and I were talking and I don't think I have EVER seen my 13 yo niece eat something I would consider actual food! This is the same child who had fainting spells in school this spring and was diagnosed as severely hypoglycemic. The answer - rather than poptarts for breakfast she now has a McDonalds sausage biscuit. Every morning. With diet Coke.

          I find it very easy to take it personally - but really they are all just addicted to junk. Way to do what you can - it is all you can do! (This is also why some of the Friday Success Stories drive me crazy when they are basically 100% primal - do those people give in and still have great success - or do they someone have all supportive family and friends? Are they just jerks about what they eat?)

          Sorry about the $$ troubles - it isn't fun, but know that if you stick with it it does get better!
          Laurie

          GAPS/Primal - Working on Getting Healthy!

          My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread88988.html

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          • Originally posted by PrimalLaurie View Post
            Jen:

            Sorry about this weekend. I always feel the same way around my in laws. (This is also why some of the Friday Success Stories drive me crazy when they are basically 100% primal - do those people give in and still have great success - or do they someone have all supportive family and friends? Are they just jerks about what they eat?)
            I can totally relate. Thankfully I haven't had too many gatherings where I've had nothing proper to eat. The key there is "not to many gatherings". My family never gets together unless I have people to my house - and hubbys family gatherings are always surrounded by India food. And I have the SAME issues with the Friday success stories. Can they please post one that talks about how freakin' hard it is to not stray off into chocolate chip cookie land? It seems like all the stories have the same theme (or at least all the ones that I remember) and that theme is always something like this: I can't believe how EASY the weight came off!! I lost 50 pounds in 6 months and I never felt hungry or deprived! ............... WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE???? I'm sorry - but they are obviously the exception - NOT the norm. I want to see a story about a middle aged woman fighting health issues, with a non-primal spouse ----- and I want to hear about all the ups and downs and struggles she went through to get to her perfect place of health and wellness.

            This isn't a weight loss plan......... its a health plan. However --- even Mark has said eating whole food in the proper quantities will naturally result in the body finding its healthy set point. Maybe to key here is to be 95-100% PURE PRIMAL/PALEO. I have not been that pure. Maybe that's the difference between my story and those in the Friday Success column. But they still don't talk about how difficult it is to stay the course. When I get there - and I submit my success story - I'm going to be truthful about the struggles!

            Okay - rant over.
            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
            2. Eat to heal
            3. Move to live
            4. Embrace today
            5. Live with intention
            6. Respect my body
            7. Cultivate joy
            8. Find my passion
            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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            • Originally posted by tomi View Post
              I can totally relate. Thankfully I haven't had too many gatherings where I've had nothing proper to eat. The key there is "not to many gatherings". My family never gets together unless I have people to my house - and hubbys family gatherings are always surrounded by India food. And I have the SAME issues with the Friday success stories. Can they please post one that talks about how freakin' hard it is to not stray off into chocolate chip cookie land? It seems like all the stories have the same theme (or at least all the ones that I remember) and that theme is always something like this: I can't believe how EASY the weight came off!! I lost 50 pounds in 6 months and I never felt hungry or deprived! ............... WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE???? I'm sorry - but they are obviously the exception - NOT the norm. I want to see a story about a middle aged woman fighting health issues, with a non-primal spouse ----- and I want to hear about all the ups and downs and struggles she went through to get to her perfect place of health and wellness.

              This isn't a weight loss plan......... its a health plan. However --- even Mark has said eating whole food in the proper quantities will naturally result in the body finding its healthy set point. Maybe to key here is to be 95-100% PURE PRIMAL/PALEO. I have not been that pure. Maybe that's the difference between my story and those in the Friday Success column. But they still don't talk about how difficult it is to stay the course. When I get there - and I submit my success story - I'm going to be truthful about the struggles!

              Okay - rant over.
              While I don't have a non-primal spouse, I do live in the same city as my large non-primal family that loves food. I am definitely a middle aged women with health issues. I have had my struggles, ups and downs. However, overall, I believe I have been successful- I'm healthy and in the normal range weight-wise for my height.

              I am not 95-100% pure. I eat things that are definitely not primal-- occasional pizza, ice cream, diet pepsi, wine to name a few things. I do try to plan my off-plan choices. I also like to tie them to meeting goals I set for myself.

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              • Originally posted by marcadav View Post
                While I don't have a non-primal spouse, I do live in the same city as my large non-primal family that loves food. I am definitely a middle aged women with health issues. I have had my struggles, ups and downs. However, overall, I believe I have been successful- I'm healthy and in the normal range weight-wise for my height.

                I am not 95-100% pure. I eat things that are definitely not primal-- occasional pizza, ice cream, diet pepsi, wine to name a few things. I do try to plan my off-plan choices. I also like to tie them to meeting goals I set for myself.
                How come you haven't submitted a success story??? I'd love to read it! and pics are always nice too!
                1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                2. Eat to heal
                3. Move to live
                4. Embrace today
                5. Live with intention
                6. Respect my body
                7. Cultivate joy
                8. Find my passion
                9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                • Originally posted by tomi View Post
                  How come you haven't submitted a success story??? I'd love to read it! and pics are always nice too!
                  Two possible reasons:
                  1. I'm kinda private and because of past experiences not wild of putting too much online. I also hate having my picture taken.
                  2. Just when I start considering it, I hit one of those bumps, usually thyroid related, and lose ground.

                  But if you'd like to get together I would tell you my story and might even provide pictures.Maybe you could convince me.

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                  • Maybe we can work something out.................

                    Okay, maybe we should let Jenn have her journal back now...........
                    1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                    2. Eat to heal
                    3. Move to live
                    4. Embrace today
                    5. Live with intention
                    6. Respect my body
                    7. Cultivate joy
                    8. Find my passion
                    9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                    • Saw the Princess of Pain today for my foot. Yowser! She ran me through the ringer! I can tell half marathon training is underway! I haven't experienced appointments like that in soooo long. I really need to get in the habit of using my foam roller so she doesn't have to inflict so much pain... but, despite the pain she inflicted, my foot does feel better already.

                      Whole30 day 8... kind of. More like Day 1. With the two dinners out and the non-compliant salad on Sunday, I'm tempted to start over, but I guess it doesn't really matter when I plan to make this my regular lifestyle, just not religiously - there will be times when I stray.

                      I noticed this morning that I felt very good emotionally and mentally. I haven't taken the 5-htp for the last two nights. I almost wonder if I was taking too much and having that "too much serotonin" issue. I will continue without it and see how things work.

                      Work has been rather busy the last few days. Not swamped and not overloaded, but busy... I've had a steady stream of things to do. I like that.

                      well, duty calls again... ttfn
                      Primal since March 5, 2012
                      SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                      • Most of the time, I don't feel deprived. And the reason I don't normally feel deprived is b/c I know those foods are not happy foods for my body - I don't miss chocolate chip cookies. I have a chocolate chip cookie made completely out of coconut to substitute. I don't miss pizza - b/c when I want pizza, I eat the toppings and ditch the crust... or I get a gluten free crust. I make substitutes so I don't feel deprived. Last weekend I felt deprived b/c there was literally NOTHING available that was Whole30... I had no substitute. And even when I do substitute with something that is not 100% primal or paleo friendly, oh well... it's not going to prevent me from every losing weight ever again... it's just going to slow me down for a short while.

                        Normally, I don't feel deprived... i felt comfortable and content with what I allow myself to eat. I don't want pain and digestive discomfort or to be fat any longer so those things no longer call to me on a regular basis... I think I finally broke up with those things cleanly - thank you Whole30.

                        BUT, if I allow myself to break rules (i.e. have wheat despite the discomfort) I have to start the fight all over again. If I start consuming a lot of sugar, I have to start all over again to get back to where I no longer want/crave it. I'm perfectly happy skipping the birthday cake, but there was a day, before Primal, where my mouth would have salivated until I ate some and then I'd have 3 pieces in one sitting. It's those times when I make the poor decisions that things become hard - fighting the cravings sucks. But I've now reached a point where I don't have oreos calling my name. I don't have hard liquors calling my name. I don't have pastries or breads or other gluten bombs calling my name anymore. Sugar still does occasionally, but it's easy for me to fight off if it's contaminated with gluten. I don't have a gluten allergy (clinically), but I know I feel discomfort when I eat it, so it's easy for me to pass something off b/c of gluten... it just takes time and committment and dedication to the decision to not eat those things for those things to finally stop calling to me and for things to become easy. I've done so many whole30's that it's almost effortless anymore... except in those instances where I break the rules and have to start over, or in those instances where my choices are to make the best choice possible or stay home (like Saturday night was).

                        I have my mind made up that I don't want those foods. And because I've committed to not wanting those foods, I don't tend to crave them. If there is one thing I will avoid like the plague, it's wheat... Sometimes I'll eat sugar, sometimes I'll eat corn meal, etc, but if I avoid wheat, I'm usually in the clear. Wheat is a trigger for me and I know this and have come to accept it and have committed to doing everything I can to avoid it. I think once you make that decision and flip that switch, it becomes easy. Until then, it's hard.

                        And it's when you make that decision and flip that switch that the weight falls off effortlessly. When I follow whole30 religiously, weight falls off in sheets. I know what I have to do and I do it so it works. When I don't do it (like this last week with the 3 off plan meals) my weight halts. I've been stuck at 177 for the last week (water weight from my lowest) b/c I keep making unallowed things in - crap on Thursday, crap on Saturday and crap on Sunday. I have learned that if I want it, truly deeply want it and COMMIT to it, allow for ZERO excuses and just DO WHAT I NEED TO DO, it works - effortlessly. None of the "I've follow W30 perfectly except for this one time..." b/c if there's that one time, it wasn't perfect... if I start to excuse those imperfections, things get off course quickly... Think of it like this... if I overspend by $100 a month, it's only $100 one time right... except that one time becomes 12 times and that $100 becomes $1200... same goes for the non-primal foods we put in our mouth... they add up over time. In some cases, it might not be a big deal, but when you're trying to lose weight and making a bunch of imperfections and the weight loss has stalled or is going in reverse, then those imperfections ARE a big deal and need to be eliminated.

                        Discipline and commitment are my most prized weight loss tools. Sometimes we have to do what we don't want to do in order to get what we want. And I think the people who have gotten to a point where they can write a success story have found that switch, flipped it and things are now effortless for them. It became second nature and when sometime comes naturally, it comes effortlessly.

                        And I think the reason the struggles are left out of the success stories is b/c no one wants to hear that it was hard... remember, most humans today want things to come easily to them - hence the huge propensity to use drugs for pain, surgery for weight loss, and lottery for earning millions. If there was a flood of success stories that said "OMG this was soooo hard" then no one would try it. We WANT people to try it. So we sell it.
                        Last edited by jenn26point2; 07-02-2013, 01:48 PM.
                        Primal since March 5, 2012
                        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                        • Wow... that post went all over the place... but it's something that's been weighing on my mind a lot recently - it was not directly aimed at you, Tomi. I assure you of that. On MFP I see people complain all the time about this very thing, so it's something I've been thinking about for a while and even posted on MFP about a week ago about this very thing. So, please don't be offended or feel attacked.
                          Primal since March 5, 2012
                          SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                          • I think MIL will be making potato salad for Thursday's festivities. I'm thinking about making my own so I can enjoy some tater salad too... it won't be whole30 b/c of the potatoes, but at least it won't house any bad oils...

                            I've heard jicama can be used to substitute for potatoes. I wonder what that would be like. Maybe I'll just stick with what I know and use white potatoes.
                            Primal since March 5, 2012
                            SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                            • *Throw another* Shrimp on the bar-bay for dinner tonight. Yum!
                              Primal since March 5, 2012
                              SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                              • I agree wholeheartedly with your post. I'm just not there yet. Food is too much of an emotional pain killer for me.

                                I agree that w30 is the answer.

                                I will soon be taking a course in increasing willpower which I hope will help me come out on the other side of this once and for all.
                                Primal since 9/24/2010
                                "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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