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  • Love the dog scenario and the sound of enchiladas:-)

    Do we get a picture of all the dogs together??:-) Pretty please, if there's a phone / camera around that does that.

    Sending positive thoughts early for good things to happen tomorrow. Charge those phones:-) Funny, we assume nobody has land phones anymore, or they're buried somewhere where no one can find them even if they'd want too.

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    • We still have a land line, but I'm thinking that might change when all the kids are out on their own. Then, they won't be trying to reach the homestead in general, rather one of us, specifically. We'll see.

      I have not yet done the pictures onto computers thing. Another thing to add to my toolbox someday. But then I would have to decide what to have for my icon!!

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      • Hey, fear is a great motivator. It was a big thing for me. I was afraid of being a crippled, diabetic old lady waiting for the next heart attack. It was not a theoretical fear; there were warning lights flashing on all of them. Fear is sometimes a healthy, wonderful thing. When you are taking inevitable consequences seriously, it is a highly intelligent thing too, at least if it prompts you to take effective action, as opposed to panicking.

        Here's to fear!
        5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
        Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
        Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

        More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
        - Lewis Mumford

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        • Thoughts

          I have a problem with clutter. It is getting better- slowly!- but there's still a bunch of clutter in my house and in my life. Once in a while I have said that there would be a silver lining to having all my belongings swept away by a tornado: I could start over without clutter, and put more thought into my possessions.

          As we've been eating from what we have, and not purchasing anything that's not vital, our fridge has become less cluttered. Of course, I miss the abundance, being able to make anything I fancied because I could buy the ingredients, or be sure to have all of them on hand. But there is a silver lining. When I open my fridge, I can see almost everything now, without a lot of reshuffling. It is easy to reach things. It looks cleaner, just because there is space around the items, instead of everything jumbled up together. I can fit the meat I am defrosting into one of the drawers, rather than piling it higgeldy-piggeldy next to the milk.

          I like it.

          Not that I am planning to keep it that way. When we have funds again, I'll be getting bacon, and veg, sauces, and cheeses. And I'll like that, too.

          But maybe just as our bodies are benefited by a cycle of feast and famine, our spirits might have use for cycles of abundance and scarcity. To be clearing out before we re-stock.

          The same thing is happening with my front room, as I find things to sell. I am balancing possessing an item versus having the funds to pay the mortgage and the life insurance. It helps make the emotional tie to each item weaker.

          That part of what is so hard for me, in clearing clutter. I get an attachment to things which goes beyond what they are. All those kids books? They're not just something to read. They are me spending time with my kids, investing in their imagination and intellect. They are the thrill I feel when someone looks at our shelves, and says 'wow, you read a lot'. It is my identity as a person who cares about knowledge and history. They are hedges against boredom and ignorance. They are comfort.

          How do you sell that kind of thing for 25 cents?

          But the mortgage is those kind of things too. It is never having to move unless I want to. It is seeing people I recognize and who recognize me, every time I walk in my neighborhood. It is coziness. It is safety. It is where our family gathers. It is where I am the center.

          And that's important enough to make those books, just books. I can feel those things without the books on my shelves. I've read to my kids- I don't need the books to prove it. I know I can get them from the library- I don't need to have them in my hands. I've learned things- I don't need to be able to access the knowledge at any moment.

          The same would go for my house, too, but I'm not evolved enough for that. Don't know that I want to be.

          And I'm glad this tornado is under my control.

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          • I love books, so this is somewhat (hmm! - definitely) biased. I can see selling excess furniture and other things, but the books will come so in handy when you're reading to grandkids and then passing them on to grandkids. Unless you have a lot of first editions, the quarter a book probably won't go a long way towards paying the mortgage. Just a thought. My first three grandkids all have some of my books, and I'm using them with my youngest grandson right now. Nephews and nieces love them too.

            Maybe you could sell stuffed animals instead. They are easy to replace and get overwhelming. I swear, my sister's kids had a full room of them when they moved and downsized. The Goodwill really scored that weekend. I felt like Santa.

            Praying tomorrow is the day for jobs, and that you can keep all those wonderful books.

            Originally posted by Sabine View Post
            I have a problem with clutter. It is getting better- slowly!- but there's still a bunch of clutter in my house and in my life. Once in a while I have said that there would be a silver lining to having all my belongings swept away by a tornado: I could start over without clutter, and put more thought into my possessions.

            As we've been eating from what we have, and not purchasing anything that's not vital, our fridge has become less cluttered. Of course, I miss the abundance, being able to make anything I fancied because I could buy the ingredients, or be sure to have all of them on hand. But there is a silver lining. When I open my fridge, I can see almost everything now, without a lot of reshuffling. It is easy to reach things. It looks cleaner, just because there is space around the items, instead of everything jumbled up together. I can fit the meat I am defrosting into one of the drawers, rather than piling it higgeldy-piggeldy next to the milk.

            I like it.

            Not that I am planning to keep it that way. When we have funds again, I'll be getting bacon, and veg, sauces, and cheeses. And I'll like that, too.

            But maybe just as our bodies are benefited by a cycle of feast and famine, our spirits might have use for cycles of abundance and scarcity. To be clearing out before we re-stock.

            The same thing is happening with my front room, as I find things to sell. I am balancing possessing an item versus having the funds to pay the mortgage and the life insurance. It helps make the emotional tie to each item weaker.

            That part of what is so hard for me, in clearing clutter. I get an attachment to things which goes beyond what they are. All those kids books? They're not just something to read. They are me spending time with my kids, investing in their imagination and intellect. They are the thrill I feel when someone looks at our shelves, and says 'wow, you read a lot'. It is my identity as a person who cares about knowledge and history. They are hedges against boredom and ignorance. They are comfort.

            How do you sell that kind of thing for 25 cents?

            But the mortgage is those kind of things too. It is never having to move unless I want to. It is seeing people I recognize and who recognize me, every time I walk in my neighborhood. It is coziness. It is safety. It is where our family gathers. It is where I am the center.

            And that's important enough to make those books, just books. I can feel those things without the books on my shelves. I've read to my kids- I don't need the books to prove it. I know I can get them from the library- I don't need to have them in my hands. I've learned things- I don't need to be able to access the knowledge at any moment.

            The same would go for my house, too, but I'm not evolved enough for that. Don't know that I want to be.

            And I'm glad this tornado is under my control.

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            • Sabine, I actually get stressed when the fridge is too full. Or too empty, but that's another issue. My closet is stressing me now, because I am finding it too full. I'm not going to discard perfectly good clothes to solve that problem, but I'm looking forward to having valid reasons to get rid of some things, and not replacing all of them.

              Clutter does weigh us down, for sure. But I would recommend putting aside some of the particularly precious books. I find books hard to get rid of, myself, for all the reasons you said.
              5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
              Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
              Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

              More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
              - Lewis Mumford

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              • Lopisheep gets me thinking about books!

                You can't sell what you don't have! I never got, or let my kids get into the stuffed animal habit. I even had a rule for relatives' gift giving: no guns, legos, or stuffed animals. (We did get legos, but after the kids were older, and in a controlled fashion: just what was really longed for. Mostly we did Playmobil, and I was NOT having two sets of things with incredibly little pieces swirling through the house. Eldest got to do legos once he was old enough, and had the motivation, to keep them contained.) Eldest never wanted an animal, and the girls had two or three carefully selected, longed for, and loved ones. And I can't imagine selling those! Middlest still has her special friend sleep on the end of her bed!

                And while I appreciate your reasoning, I am now at the point in my understanding of knowing I can't hold onto everything, that space and (paying the mortgage) have their own value. If I had the space and money, I would love to keep ALL THE BOOKS, EVER! But I don't, so no sense for me to not make the choices.

                Whew. That got me articulating a few things, didn't it? I love books. I can tell that you do, too. We have always had way too many books than we have space for. There's a decluttering mantra that I was introduced to about a year and a half ago. "Inventory must conform to storage.' When I realized that that applied to books too (much as I didn't want it to!) it was a real breakthrough for me. Just another living within your means moment. You really can't have it all, but there is a value in deciding what IS important enough for you to have, and to really enjoy that. It is not necessary for me to keep every Gordon Gecko mystery we've read. It IS vital to have our Narnia books.

                I guess, in a way, it is just like realizing it is not necessary to have a sandwich for lunch every day, but it is worth it to have that fantastic bread pudding when you go out for your birthday.

                Oh, but how I wish I were rich enough to have a massive library. Oh, wait! I am! It is just a ten minute walk away! Yay for civilization and the tax-dollars that support it!

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                • I'm with you on the books, it's hard for me to get rid of them. The storage idea is a good one, but doesn't work for me because as a woodworker (avocational) I gleefully build bookshelves when space runs short.

                  E-readers have helped a bit, so very few new books are coming in, I still prefer holding a real book, but have now gotten used to reading on the iPad (even on my phone!). About a year ago I sold or donated roughly half of my books, keeping Art books and any title I thought I might read again. It was painful, but it's more manageable now. I've replaced only one (with the e-version) that I tossed overzealously.

                  I don't make much use of the library in town, and I should.

                  David
                  Height: 5' 10"
                  Starting Weight: 292
                  Starting Primal Weight: 275
                  Current weight: 224
                  Goal weight: 172
                  Body Fat 30.5

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                  • Back to my regularly scheduled post

                    Well, one day of eating right, and my nose is almost back to normal. The weather (lots of rain) may have played a part, but I am still appreciating the difference. And I slept better last night, too!

                    Laid back in the bath again this morning. I need to see if I can find one of those bathtub overflow control things, that you stick over your outflow, so that it drains from the top, rather than the bottom. It would give me three more inches to lower myself into, and I might be able to go shoulders under. I'm actually looking forward to the dunks, which I never would have expected.

                    No more coffee! I didn't have it yesterday, either, in case it was playing a part in my heartburny symptoms. So, I only did 6 days, but that's enough to decide I DID NOT LIKE IT. If I want to do the caffeine aspect of cold water-caffeine-exercise, I'll spring for some caffeine pills when we're flush again. But I really do not like that jittery feeling. It may not be worth any weight-loss help it gives. And since it didn't magically 'drop three sizes in just eight days'(use your funny announcer voice for that), out it goes! For now.

                    But not the cold baths. Those are fantastic. (Did I just say that?)

                    Small upset with the devilled eggs yesterday. I have one of those marvelous tupperware contraptions that you can transport 24 devilled eggs in. (It also doubles as a cake holder, but I got it years ago especially for devilled eggs.) It has a cover, but a cover cannot protect it from being dropped sideways. The beautifully piped eggs ended up being slightly squashed and reassembled eggs. They still tasted good, though.

                    Oh, and the custard I made! Heaven.

                    I love custard.

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                    • If your overflow is round and has a screw in the middle you should be able to loosen the screw and rotate it that might give you the extra few inches you need
                      SW (Nov 22nd 2011): 333
                      Current Weight as of Nov 25 2015: 248
                      Short Term Goal: Fit into the shirts I got on my honeymoon at disney and universal in august next year when I go back to for my 1 year anniversary
                      Met Goal: Be a 2x Shirt, Fit in a standard airplane seat belt without the use of a seat belt extension
                      Long Term Goal: 166lbs (One day!), Buy whatever cloths I want to wear.
                      Pain is temporary, quitting is forever- Lance Armstrong #NoExcuses

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                      • Hmmm. Round, two holes...I'm going to give it a try!

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                        • I admire your attitude during this stressful and unsure time! As for books, yes I have a few that I don't want to part with -- but when I find a book that touches me I want to pass it on so others can enjoy it also. I always tell people, I don't want it back, I just ask that you pass it along to another when you're done reading it.

                          I think uncluttering is a healthy thing to do --- we don't need to get attached to objects, they just weigh us down. I think I have a bit of the minimalist mentality -- less is more type of thing. Not to mention, the more stuff we have, the more we need to dust! And I hate dusting!
                          1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                          2. Eat to heal
                          3. Move to live
                          4. Embrace today
                          5. Live with intention
                          6. Respect my body
                          7. Cultivate joy
                          8. Find my passion
                          9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                          • Books, books, books. The joy and the bane of my life. The joy because, well, I don't need to explain that to you. The bane because I can't have them all, can't keep them all, can't read them all. I'm trying to give away books that I am reasonably certain will always be readily available from a library or for purchase if necessary. After a lifetime of collecting, I have so many that don't fit that criteria that I have quite a collection. And I love them all. But I try to be careful about purchasing - I could easily buy several every single week and have my entire home buried in stacks.
                            My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                            "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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                            • Brrr. Cold baths. I'm sitting here in my unheated house wondering why on earth I haven't turned the heat on... Can't face cold baths too.

                              But the fact that you are enjoying them will stick in my head and motivate me to try it some day. Not today...
                              5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                              Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                              Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                              More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                              - Lewis Mumford

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                              • Back at you- so fun to come to your jouranl and see bunches of comments!

                                Ecks- I gave it a try, but one of the screws is too old, and just wouldn't come out. But it gave me the idea that I COULD just cover the gap with some duct tape for my cold bath. I know the overflow is there for when you forget what you are doing, but I think I could risk it if I promised myself that I would stay by the tub until it fills. (Extra reading time!) Might try that tomorrow.

                                Tomi- I am definitely in a minimalist stage of my life. There have been a few things I regret tossing, but the key words there: 'few' versus the hundreds, and perhaps thousands of things I got rid of and never missed, and 'regrets' because if you've made it through life without regrets you aren't putting yourself out there, and of course, 'things'. When all is said and done these are things. I'll be leaving them behind at one point or another, and they don't mean a flip next to people and good emotion. They are here to help me through life, and if they are not helping, well, then!

                                I'm glad it seems like my attitude is admirable in any way. It doesn't feel like that to me, but I haven't snapped at my kids or Honey, or run away from home, so I guess I am doing okay. Sometimes I feel like I get on here and do nothing but whine how hard my life is. When it is still leaps and bounds ahead of most everyone on earth. Oh well, at least you guys can skip the boring parts! I'll have to do a big alert in bold letters when it is safe to come back.

                                Siobhan- I've told myself and others many times, that I would know when I was rich, because I would be able to buy ALL the books I wanted. In hardback, even! Reading is one of my favorite things, and there just isn't enough time to read everything I would like. And then there's repeat reading! Some things are just too good to experience only once.

                                Judg- I never thought I would be LOOKING FORWARD to cold baths. At best, I thought I would revel in how tough I was being. We'll see if I still feel this way as it gets colder!

                                I'm making up my enchilada sauce. It is a recipe from John McDougall's book, from when I was doing the vegan thing. Yes, you heard that right. It is still the best enchilada sauce recipe I have ever tried. Just the right amount of spice and texture for me. I HAVE tweaked it over the years. I didn't use the cornstarch even before I went primal. And I had to further tweak today, because we are out of soy sauce. I used some fish sauce instead, and garlic powder instead of fresh, and it worked fine. Now I am about to use my immersion blender that Eldest gave me for Christmas(!), and start layering.

                                Then I am going to sit back down in front of the tv with my knitting. Had to pay part of a bill today, and it stressed me out. I self-medicated with custard and knitting, and it seems to be working.
                                Last edited by Sabine; 10-01-2012, 03:41 PM. Reason: WHY can't we edit our titles!?! I'm mortified!

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