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  • Hi Sabine. Just checking in. It seems I'm too buy having conversations at Booter's and GP's journals to keep up with everyone else. Glad to see all went well with your fast. I look forward to the day that I have the resolve to fast like that.
    Primal since March 5, 2012
    SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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    • *noted* hahaha I spend some time with people from work outside of the workplace... not the kinds of friends im looking for though. I want people I can call on just to hang whenever. Thanks for the call out though
      SW (Nov 22nd 2011): 333
      Current Weight as of Nov 25 2015: 248
      Short Term Goal: Fit into the shirts I got on my honeymoon at disney and universal in august next year when I go back to for my 1 year anniversary
      Met Goal: Be a 2x Shirt, Fit in a standard airplane seat belt without the use of a seat belt extension
      Long Term Goal: 166lbs (One day!), Buy whatever cloths I want to wear.
      Pain is temporary, quitting is forever- Lance Armstrong #NoExcuses

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      • Wow long fast #3. That is awesome. A board game group sounds ike fun.
        Primal since 9/24/2010
        "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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        • Two things on a bright and beautiful Saturday morning.

          First of all, what are you doing up so early, Pebbles? It is your first day of summer! You should be lolling in bed! But, glad to see you.

          Second, facing the realities of True Hunger again. Waiting to get hungry can be a big annoyance. I know what Ecks said about control, but there is definitely a learning curve to this. Did pretty well yesterday, but I think I may have to face the fact that breakfasts may become a thing of the past.

          Here's what I did:

          Up at 7:30
          Vitamins

          3:30 1 1/2C sauteed zuccini, crookneck, and bell peppers
          corned beef
          sauerkraut
          swiss cheese
          thousand island dressing(just a bit)
          (in other words, a rueben sandwich without the bread)
          1/4 pickle

          3C iced coffee with stevia and 1/2C cream(the real stuff- I brought it from home)

          8:40 1T solyanka (tasted to test for seasoning)

          Water: 16 glasses
          Walking: 90"

          Bed at 9:30

          And why:

          I felt some hunger at about 11:00, but was crazy busy, and didn't have a chance to eat. In the afternoon I met a friend for a writing date, and pounced on the merest suggestion of hunger inside me and had a late lunch. It was stretching things a bit, though.

          Not hungry for dinner. Made some things for Saturday's potluck in the evening, and convinced myself I should do just as the recipe said, and taste to adjust the seasoning. Was not hungry AT ALL, it just smelled and looked so good I glommed onto any excuse. Did confine myself to just 1T- amazing!

          So, not the best with eating to True Hunger, but not the worst. I HAD been hungry earlier in the day, it had just gone to sleep and not woken up again. And I gave into Mental Hunger, but restrained myself amount-wise. I will call it a work in progress.

          Looking forward to eating that Solyanka today, I can tell you that! Delicious!

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          • Sounds like you're doing wonderfully, Sabine. I might have to take lessons...
            5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
            Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
            Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

            More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
            - Lewis Mumford

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            • That soup sounds fabulous! Very nice of you to make it for a potluck. If I made that for my church's potluck I would be very popular, and no one would suspect me of eating "healthy."
              My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

              "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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              • Another one meal day

                Siobhan- the Solyanka is even better than a soup: it's a casserole! Sweet potato, cottage cheese, sour cream cabbage, onion caraway. Mmmmm. I was loving it! I'm hoping to have the leftovers for breakfast with some bratwurst and quiche, if I can get hungry before my family finishes it off.

                The people I was eating with are apparently unadventurous in their eating. Only one tried the solyanka, and no one braved the Waldorf salad. I managed to resist the chickpeas(not too hard, as they were spicy, and I don't do spicy, but man, they smelled fantastic) and the fritters (grain-based batter) and asked for just a spoonful of the rice and ended with 1 cup! When Indian ladies serve up for you, they mean for you to eat hearty! It was fantastic. I'm going to see if I can get the recipe. Lemon involved, and cashews, a lots of lovely turmeric.

                Okay, I seem to be racing ahead of myself. Maybe I should say how yesterday went:

                Up at 6:30
                Vitamins

                4:00 1C indian rice
                1C taco meat
                1/2C Waldorf salad-apples, celery, pecans, raisins in yogurt/mayo dressing
                1/2C Solyanka- cabbage, sweet potato, onion, cottage cheese, sour cream, yogurt, and CARAWAY!
                2T ganache

                Water:16 glasses
                Walking: 90"

                Bed at 10:00

                My plans went slightly awry. Ran out of time and didn't make the chicken satay- grabbed a container of taco meat before I ran out the door. Ditto with the Valentino brownies for me, but I did take the time to mix up some ganache with dark chocolate and cream, and bring a bit for my dessert, so that I would stay away from the devil brownies.

                And it worked. Although, getting up in the middle of the night with the dogs, I was actually tempted by them again! (Really? You're trying to trick me, Mind Hunger, when I am half asleep? Not sporting, not sporting at all!) This morning, no dice. I consolidated the leftovers and closed up the container without a thought of putting them in my mouth. But I am wondering if Mind Hunger had been ready for me to have Valentinos, and felt cheated. Maybe I should take the time to make some this week, to fulfill the mental promise that seems to be going on. I could spread the leftover ganache on top! Ooooh!

                Had a great time playing games. I felt at ease with this group right away. Hope they felt likewise, and that we can get together again soon.

                Now, to go tackle dishes. Littlest and Middlest got adventurous while we were away, and it seems every pot in the house was used!

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                • I meant to post with the pathetic cry of "I want to get hungry!".

                  As my computer was doing its start up thing, I thought I felt the trace of Hunger. Just a little whisper.

                  Now it is gone, before it even got to the point of saying, "I might be hungry!"

                  Rats.

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                  • Please tell me you took a photo of your solyanka!
                    SW (Nov 22nd 2011): 333
                    Current Weight as of Nov 25 2015: 248
                    Short Term Goal: Fit into the shirts I got on my honeymoon at disney and universal in august next year when I go back to for my 1 year anniversary
                    Met Goal: Be a 2x Shirt, Fit in a standard airplane seat belt without the use of a seat belt extension
                    Long Term Goal: 166lbs (One day!), Buy whatever cloths I want to wear.
                    Pain is temporary, quitting is forever- Lance Armstrong #NoExcuses

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                    • No photo. And I haven't yet learned how to get the pictures from the camera to the computer. But I shall make it again, and presumably after I acquire the photo skill. Although, really, it tastes much better than it looks.

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                      • Please disregard this post until I bring it up again

                        You can do it.
                        It doesn't matter if you stuff your face while you are doing it.
                        Be afraid, but still do it.
                        You can, you can, you can.
                        It is supposed to feel hard. It is supposed to BE hard.
                        But you have got the chops for it.
                        Eat ALL the Waldorf salad, if that is what it takes to get you through it, but do it!
                        Now get off the internet, stop stalling, and do it.
                        Just 30 minutes.
                        You can do anything for 30 minutes.
                        Except hold your breath.
                        Stop that!
                        Go.

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                        • You are a good and strong person and the primal spirit is with you! The spirits of our ancestors want us to learn from them and to be healthy!
                          My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

                          "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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                          • Well. Well, well, well.

                            Thanks for the encouraging words, Siobhan. Yesterday I did something that is important for me, but also, very scary.

                            One of the challenges of life is when you are tackling changing habits, you can't just put everything else on hold. Life throws its normal stuff at you, and sometimes you even go seeking it out. Yesterday I did something I have been putting off for a while, and as soon as I started, all these FEELINGS came roiling up. Very difficult feelings. And my mind yelled, "EAT!"

                            I had just eaten two hours before. I was in no way hungry. But I was so anxious, that I caved. And pretty darned quickly. Knowing what I was doing, not terribly thrilled by it, but just too squashed to do anything but my old pattern.

                            And yet, I am glad I did this thing. I'm going to do it again today. And I may eat emotionally again today. But I will try to refrain.

                            Either I will stop being scared of this, or I will come up with some other way of beating back the fear. Any ideas? (And no, I cannot have sex each time. For this situation it would not be practical, though I am sure my honey would be willing to try. Some other confidence booster will have to do.)

                            So, here's the details:

                            Up at 6:00
                            Vitamins

                            12:00 strip of lamb fat
                            small piece of quiche
                            2 bratwurst
                            1C Solyanka
                            1C Waldorf salad

                            2:30 ganache
                            Waldorf Salad, lots!

                            6:30 taco salad with
                            taco ground beef
                            cheddar
                            lettuce
                            tomato
                            1/8 avocado
                            sour cream
                            salsa
                            1C Waldorf salad

                            9:00 More Waldorf salad
                            dark chocolate

                            Water:16 glasses
                            Walking: 50"

                            Bed at 10:30

                            I would say at noon I was more determined to be hungry, rather than actually hungry. Would my emotions have been easier to deal with in a non-eating way if I had refrained from eating at noon? Since I am going to do The Thing again today, there's one way to find out.

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                            • Funny, my emotional reaction to those things is to lose myself in computer games. Not role-playing, just brain teasers.
                              5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                              Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                              Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                              More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                              - Lewis Mumford

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                              • Originally posted by Judg View Post
                                Funny, my emotional reaction to those things is to lose myself in computer games. Not role-playing, just brain teasers.
                                I love brain teaser games! Sudoku is my favorite!!!
                                Primal since March 5, 2012
                                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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