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  • I am so grateful that I have no adrenal/thyroid/sleep/eating disorder issues.

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!

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    • Originally posted by Sabine View Post
      Finally started getting hungry at about 4:00pm, but it was True Hunger, so I found it easy to ignore. A funny thing happened. I was at the movies with friends for a special screening of Aaron Sorkin's new tv series, 'The Newsroom'. We got there early and so had a lot of time to sit. Everyone else brought or bought snacks. Next to me were skittles, which were easy for me to turn down. Then I noticed my friend was eating them by color, so we started talking about that. She likes to work from her least favorite to her most favorite, and I mentioned that I like to eat peanut m&ms in rainbow progression. Then had a brief moment of reflecting on how hard it was to stop eating peanut m&ms once I have started. A few minutes later, from the friend at the end of the row, came an offer of some...peanut m&ms!

      Didn't have any.

      Looking forward to today as the first full day of fasting with hunger. Have lots planned to keep me busy. Hope y'all have a good day!
      What is it about eating at the movies anyway? I never did get that one. My knee-jerk cheapness has on occasion served me well. Bad enough I have to shell out that much to see the movie, but pay extortionary prices for junk food on top of it? No way. Protected me from a bad habit. LOL!

      Congrats on your superior self-control.
      5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
      Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
      Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

      More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
      - Lewis Mumford

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      • I wasn't even hungry at that point, it was just a mind thing, of how much I have enjoyed peanut m&ms in the past(I love the taste, love it!), and how fun it was to eat them by color. But it is so much easier for me to have NONE than just a little. Since I am fasting, it was easy to say, 'nope, just not having them'. When I am eating, even primally, there is always the argument of 'should this be a treat/20%?'.

        Absolutes really work for me.

        I even had no difficulties lying to my friend this morning. She asked if I had eaten, and I said, "Yes, I had bacon and eggs," even though I had only inhaled deeply of them while I was making quiche for my family. Although, with the deliciousness of the bacon smell, I feel something was had! This, although I am a terrible and conscience-stricken liar. But I knew she would urge me to eat something as I was visiting in prime lunchtime, and that was JUST NOT ON. I only have one real-life friend that I am comfortable revealing my fasting to (I am seeing her on Friday, but I may have broken my fast by then, just my luck!) at this point. Maybe after I have been doing it longer. Don't know if I have mentioned it, but my plan is to try monthly fasts for a year. This is number three. I have no idea how I will judge if they have been effective, but that's the plan. Maybe I don't even need to KNOW that they are effective, just THINK it. Placebos can have a powerful effect, after all. And I'd be happy to take it.

        Okay, honey just got home. Off to the gym!

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        • Yup, sometimes it's easier to just draw a black line.
          5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
          Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
          Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

          More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
          - Lewis Mumford

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          • I totally agree, it is easier to just say no than to have a few. I am interested to hear your thoughts/experiences on fasting. It is an interesting part of primal eating.
            My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

            "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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            • This may be the end of it

              Well, the walking at the gym was fine, I felt energetic while I was zipping around the track. Then I did some weights, and --bonk! All energy vanished and I felt VERY tired. Sat down and read until my honey was finished, staggered around the kitchen making him some spinach while he was cooking his steak, then went to bed. I felt better as soon as I laid down, so I stayed awake and read for a while. Ended with having very disrupted sleep. Woke every couple of hours, not feeling hungry, but I kept having strange dreams. Altogether, very unsatisfactory.

              Not exactly hungry this morning, but I do feel very EMPTY in my stomach area. Combined with the poor night's sleep, I may be eating just for comfort this morning. I'll see how it goes.

              This was yesterday:

              Up at 7:00
              Vitamins
              Water: 16 glasses
              Walking: 70"
              Bed at 9:30

              Had two episodes of hunger, at 8:30 and 11:30. Kept waiting to feel hunger again, but nothing. Sort of strange. My head did feel 'heavy' throughout the day, as though I had to work hard to concentrate. Not unpleasant, but a different sensation.

              Nothing planned to 'keep me busy' today. It may be a good day to do chores and put in movie after movie, snuggling with the dogs while I knit or quilt.

              Or eat. The thought of food, just for the FUN of eating, aside from any hunger, is very tempting. It is very interesting how the other aspects of food, aside from energy needs, can be so strong. Food is fun to cook, and think about, and smell, not just taste. I really liked chopping up the garlic and onions last night, and smelling them, choosing a spice to toss in, flipping the spinach around until it wilted.

              Sigh.

              Off to drink some water.

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              • Also, I'm feeling constipated. I guess the last of whatever is not moving out. Not fun.

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                • Okay. I'm feeling better, aside from no bowel action. My head has cleared, and I don't feel draggy anymore. However, I have already mentally talked myself into breaking my fast, and you know once I get set on having some sashimi, there's not much that will stand in my way. So, unless I find some previously hidden fasting resolve in the next hour, that's the plan.

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                  • I have never had sashimi. I don't even know what it is.
                    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                    - Lewis Mumford

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                    • It is sushi, without the rice. Just beautiful slabs of raw fish. Mmmmm. It was fantastic!

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                      • Well, eating apparently turns me into a saucy minx, 'cause I've been sprinkling comments hither and yon like there is no tomorrow. Better go do some chores before I get into real trouble.

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                        • Haven't had sushi yet either. Hubby refuses to even contemplate it, so I'll have to go with one of the offspring some time.
                          5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                          Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                          Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                          More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                          - Lewis Mumford

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                          • Breakfast

                            I broke my fast yesterday. So much fun to be eating again!

                            Here's what I did:

                            Up at 5:30
                            Vitamins

                            11:30 1 1/2 plates of sashimi
                            1/4C seaweed salad
                            1 piece of chicken teriyaki
                            1C creme brulee

                            4:30 2 pieces quiche
                            1 banana fried in
                            butter
                            1T vodka vanilla

                            Water: 15 glasses

                            Bed at 9:45

                            Felt VERY energetic after eating. That is probably how we should always feel, with our bodies embracing the new energy coming in. I did not have True Hunger for my afternoon meal, but I cut myself some slack. Everything tastes so good when you haven't been eating for a while.

                            Woke up without hunger this morning, though, and I aim to wait until True Hunger hits. Several of the people who were fasting along with me (we used the Starting a Fast- anyone interested thread in Nutrition, if anyone wants to check it out) do, or are planning to IF with a 5 or 6 hour window. I have been doing that sometimes just by accident. I don't want to follow it as a plan, but I think I would like to become more aware of how often I eat only two, or one, meals a day. Guess I should go back through my journal, and make a chart.

                            I love charts!

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                            • LOL! A born scientist...
                              5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                              Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                              Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                              More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                              - Lewis Mumford

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                              • Tomorrow my honey and I are going to play board games with some new friends he met at work (Ecks, take note!). Some of them are vegetarians(Indian-rich work environment) so I got out my Moosewood cookbook.

                                The first thing I ever made from it was the ratatouille, and I still make it regularly. But leafing through, I saw some old favorites, and quite a few that could be converted to primal.

                                For tomorrow I decided on my cauliflower-bacon salad, minus the bacon, Moosewood's Solyanka, but made with sweet potatoes instead of white ones, and brownies- regular for the crowd, Valentino/semi-primal for me. I'm also taking some chicken satay along, for myself. Just in case.

                                Still waiting to get hungry today. I am meeting a friend for a writing date at 3:00, and was planning to have just iced decaf coffee. But if I haven't eaten by then, and hunger strikes... they have a full lunch menu. I'm ready!
                                Last edited by Sabine; 06-22-2012, 05:54 PM.

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