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  • Hungry once

    I waited until I was hungry to eat.

    Both simple and challenging.

    The challenging part first. I found I kept thinking of my schedule, and when it would be 'convenient' to be hungry, and worrying about what I would do if hunger struck when I wasn't able to satisfy it. Had to keep reminding myself that I can obviously manage to be hungry without exploding. Don't worry. Still, it appears that is another habit to work on dispelling. Too many years of being prodded by Mind Hunger, I guess. I need to remember that it won't be instinctive for a while, and concentrate on it.

    First felt I might be hungry at Middlest picnic birthday party. The choices were crudites and dip, crackers and bread, chicken, cheese, pasta salad with chicken, caesar salad, and chocolate cake and ice-cream. So, some things I could have, but the thought of wasting hunger on what were really basic choices, did not appeal. I decided to BE hungry, and wait.

    By the time I took Littlest where she had to go, stopped at the library, got gas for the van, got home, and took a bath, I was hungry again, and ready to enjoy a meal of things worth eating. Afterwards, we went to a wedding reception, where I was NOT tempted by the lemonade and ice cream sundaes, not even mentally, since I was stuffed full of good protein.

    The simple part was this: I just kept asking, 'Is this True Hunger?' and giving myself time to think about it. You know that game, Othello, whose tag line is, 'a minute to learn, a lifetime to master'? That's what it felt like. Very Zen, I suppose.

    Here's how it went down:

    Up at 6:00
    Vitamins

    5:15pm rotisserie chicken leg
    1 1/2C taco meat(grass-fed ground beef, chili, white onion)
    1/2 avocado
    2 squares 90% Lindt chocolate

    Water: 10 glasses
    Lifted heavy things, ie., lugging a cooler across an enormous field (I can feel it in my arms this morning)

    Bed at 9:30

    I'll be practicing again, today.

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    • you know what they say Sabine!! Practice makes perfect!! lol

      you are so awesome! I'm impressed by your figuring all this hunger out!! Makes me hungry just thinking about it!! LOL JK! and don't you worry...it won't be long & you'll be feeling smaller in no time! I remember a while back I slipped a top on that I hadn't been able to wear in like forever...I remember thinking "oh I won't be able to get this on, it still feels to small"...& guess what??? yup it went right on!! I just stared in the mirror in disbelief!! lol I wish I could bottle that feeling up & sell it...its such a great one!!

      off to go can beans. will report in later.
      have a wonderful day!!
      Goal: Don't worry be happy!

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      • PrimalCajun- I think this will take me a lot of practice! It sure can be discouraging how hard it is to DO, rather than to KNOW. But I'm thinking that it may be a big part of my weight problem, that I just have been eating when I am not hungry. So, if I can learn to change that, weight loss might really start to come easier. (Of course, easier physically, not mentally. Just shoving food in your mouth is SUPER-EASY!)

        Sad to think, though, that I have been so disassociated from my body, that I don't even know what True Hunger is. Time to change that.

        I'm impressed that you are still canning! Good for you. Hope you are taking tomorrow off, though, to have some fun and relaxation. Thanks for stopping by: you always bring cheer with you.

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        • I'm really interested in your experiments with hunger because I have certainly been there. A while back (before primal) I was looking for something to eat - foraging for grains, as I used to do almost constantly - and realized that I had not actually felt a hunger pain for quite some time. I ate all of the time and I never really was hungry. I always just wanted to eat. Time to change all that.
          My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread53052.html

          "Freedom from fear" could be said to sum up the whole philosophy of human rights. - Dag Hammarskjold

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          • I like the way you are thinking about your hunger, and deciding if it is "true hunger" before you feed it.
            I think a lot of us are guilty of eating when we are not really hungry, just because it is "time" to eat (I know I am).

            I shall try to think about (and label) my hunger this week.
            "Be careful what you pretend to be because you are what you pretend to be." Kurt Vonnegut
            "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." Douglas Adams
            "Moderation sucks." Suse
            "Wine is a vegetable." Meaty
            "Every decision you make, from what you eat to what you do with your time tonight, turns you into who you are tomorrow and the day after that." Cmdr Chris Hadfield


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            • Late night post

              Well, I am feeling something this evening. In the past, I would have labelled it hunger, but right now, I am just going to call it a feeling, and spend some time feeling it. It is only four hours since I last ate, so I won't be fooled. The killer is that today I bought some Coconut Bliss to try, and I sure would like to try it NOW. But I am sure it will taste just as good tomorrow, after a nice hunk of protein.

              I do not expect to get this right every time, but being more aware can only be a step in the right direction. And I know I said I would not report day-to-day weights, but the scale moved in a very satisfying direction this morning. It could just as likely be a coincidence, but I am loving it just the same.

              Still weighing less than my honey, which feels great. He is not weighing right now, so until he actively starts trying to lose weight, I will consider myself a tiny little thing.

              Our plans for tomorrow include playing some games, burgers and brats, and a red-white-and-blue dessert (strawberries and blueberries over your choice of vanilla ice cream or vanilla whipped cream). I am also thinking of doing a personal Murph (as described on Skink's journal) and saying some prayers for fallen soldiers. Today, I got to spend some time with my honey, as both the girls were out. We watched a little Downton Abbey, among other things.

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              • I know that in the past when I was "on a diet" getting hungry was the enemy. All efforts were spent to avoid it. I was actually afraid of feeling hungry. Took me a long time to stop being afraid of it. To learn that it would not be a debilitating event, that it would ebb and flo, and that it could wait till I could get to it with something worthy of eating.

                Eating because I am tired right now is my biggest enemy. I feel guilty if I stop "working" mid-afternoon, and God forbid I take a nap (in my head not anyone else's), so I end up fighting the urge to eat for a couple of hours in the middle of the afternoon. sometimes I win, sometimes I lose.
                Chris
                "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                Unknown

                My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                • Yesterday I did this:

                  Up at 8:00
                  Vitamins

                  12:00 1C sauteed cabbage and peppers
                  1/2C taco meat
                  1/4C cheddar
                  2T salsa
                  1/4C sour cream
                  1/4C pistachios

                  6:15 1 rotisserie chicken breast
                  1C lettuce
                  1/2 artichoke heart, 1 mushroom
                  2T caesar dressing
                  1/2C roasted veg
                  1 intense custard cup
                  1 square 90% Lindt chocolate
                  smear of hazel nut butter

                  Water: 10 glasses
                  20" Walking

                  Bed at 11:00

                  Managed to talk myself out of eating more in the evening, though not without some difficulty. I had a cold sensation in my midriff, which at first perception, my mind tried to turn into hunger. And, I had to go out of the house (to pick up Littlest), always a danger time, as it is easy for my mind to talk my body into drive through food anytime I am alone in the car if things are already leaning that way.

                  But I did it.

                  Not sure how, so I didn't learn a new, repeatable skill, but I'll take blind luck, if that's what I've got.

                  We have a barbeque planned for this afternoon, so I am not going to eat this morning or lunch time. I am determined to have some True Hunger to work with for our barbeque.

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                  • This has been so interesting, watching you learn how to listen to your body more carefully. I think you are moving into a whole new way of living.

                    There is some diet guru out there, whose name I totally forget, who basically tells people not to eat until they're hungry, and to stop eating when they are no longer hungry. That is the essence of her whole system. It was quite a revelation for me. I haven't been as systematic about it as you have, but it probably had something to do with my turning things around. When she was fat and trying to lose weight she decided to observe her skinny friends and that was the big thing that blew her away. They would stop eating in mid-burger if they didn't feel like eating anymore.

                    I do remember her saying that many people haven't been hungry in so long, that when they do experience hunger, they take it for indigestion.

                    I do try to time my eating to fit in with the social obligations of the day to some extent, but I am worrying about that less now that I'm not having the blood sugar crashes. I can tough out being hungry much longer without terrible consequences.
                    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                    More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                    - Lewis Mumford

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                    • I love barbeque!

                      Well, I was hungry when I started eating, but I kept eating well after I stopped being hungry. It all tasted so good, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

                      Yesterday:
                      Up at 6:30
                      Vitamins

                      3:45 large burger patty with
                      lettuce, tomato, grilled onions
                      mayo, ketchup, mustard
                      colby jack cheese
                      1/4 avocado
                      1 bratwurst
                      2 ribs with mystery sauce (brought by friend)
                      1/4C coconut bliss
                      bowl of fruit salad
                      3 squares chocolate

                      7:00 much vanilla ice cream with
                      strawberries and blueberries

                      Water: 10 glasses
                      Walking: 65"

                      Bed at 10:00

                      There was no Murph, it was just too hot. Perhaps Veteran's Day might be a more appropriate time for newbies attempting this in the southern states.

                      Feeling rather weighted this morning, but perfectly happy about my splurge. I am anticipating that it will be a while before I feel True Hunger again, though. The delicious beef and sweet potato stew that has been melding in the fridge may have to go on without me. I'll stick it in the freezer after dinner tonight, in case I don't get any this go round. Don't worry, Sabine, there will always be more stew.

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                      • You know, I think it is a really necessary thing to feast every now and again.
                        5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                        Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                        Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                        More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                        - Lewis Mumford

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                        • There is definitely some Interested Hunger going on around here. I keep thinking about that beef stew. And, now, a new challenge: Littlest is suffering from the beginnings of a cold. She has a yen for her favorite chocolate cake, but doesn't want to make it herself(which she usually does) because she doesn't want to spread her germs around. So she asked me to make it. I'll be doing that momentarily, but it means smelling good smells and being in the kitchen (10 steps closer to the beef stew!)

                          I'm trying thinking about the fact that tomorrow is my sashimi day, and I can surely wait out this fake hunger when I have raw fish waiting, only 18 hours away.

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                          • Beef stew. None.

                            I watched others eating my beef stew, and had none of it.

                            Also, leftover pasta salad, fruit salad, and baguette (Middlest's party stuff), but none of those generated the pangs that the stew did. It looked so yummy. Interested Hunger was definitely trying to pass itself off as True Hunger, but I was not fooled. True Hunger may have come around just before bedtime, but at that point I was focused so hard on not eating (bedtime!) that I didn't try to see if it was True Hunger or not. I was ready for bed!

                            I think it was True Hunger, though, because when I got up to let the dogs out at 4:00am, it took the opportunity to show up again. Fake Hungers never visit me in night. I am luckily not one of those who finds themselves drawn to the fridge while the house sleeps. If my stomach is growling at 4:00am, it is because I am HUNGRY.

                            But I was NOT going to eat at 4:00am. I wouldn't be awake enough to enjoy it.

                            When I get up at night, for the dogs' bathroom visits or my own, I tend to shuffle through the house with my eyes almost closed, to avoid waking up completely. Not a state conducive to eating; at least, eating with purpose and enjoyment. I suppose I could have shovelled some Twinkies into my mouth in that state, but no Twinkies in our house. (I have not had Twinkies for years, but I was still sad when I heard that Hostess is going bankrupt. They are a ridiculous non-food, but still, Twinkies! They should always be around, don't you think?)

                            So, I am anticipating that True Hunger will visit again this morning, knocking like the polite soul it is, and I will be able to say, "come back at 11:30, and we'll go out for sashimi. It's gym night, tonight, and we get to load up on protein!"

                            I expect True Hunger will be ecstatic.

                            Yesterday's stats:

                            Up at 5:45
                            Vitamins
                            Water: 14 glasses
                            Walking: 80"
                            Bed at 9:30

                            Got a slight sunburn during my walk. Where's my vaunted vitamin D advantage!?!

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                            • Sabine, you inspire me!
                              SW: 243
                              CW: 177
                              Goal: Health

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                              • "I suppose I could have shovelled some Twinkies into my mouth in that state, but no Twinkies in our house. (I have not had Twinkies for years, but I was still sad when I heard that Hostess is going bankrupt. They are a ridiculous non-food, but still, Twinkies! They should always be around, don't you think?)"

                                I think twinkies always will be around, they must have a 600 year half life, they NEVER go bad! Scarey really.
                                Chris
                                "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                                Unknown

                                My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                                My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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