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I have a thread I am using on the Nutrition page, 'Planning a fast - anyone interested' originally started by Nady, if you would like to join in for support.
My plan is to go three full days. However, last time, I did not get Stomach Hunger until 47 hours in. So, I am considering marking my three days from whenever I get to that point. Just considering, though. I'm at 38 hours right now.
My last food was at 9:00pm on Thursday, which would take me to Sunday night, but no night-time breaking of the fast for me. So Monday morning will be my ending time, possibly longer.
Well, you are brave. I've never attempted something that long before. And I'm not going to try it now, either, until my fatigue issues improve. Let us know how it goes.
5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again
More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
- Lewis Mumford
I am really interested in your fast; I would like to try it myself but I think I should give myself some time first. Maybe six months primal? I read your thread over in nutrition, will check for updates. Here's to good health, great health!
good luck on the fast Sabine!! I will be able to do it when I get my adrenal fatigue/thyroid disorder healed. Will be anxious to see how it goes for you!! Mom has been doing them about once every week or every other week...& has done very well with it. But I can't right now due to the metabolism issues. But that's ok.
It is throwing me for a loop (a little) that I am STILL not hungry. I am 62 hours in. I will definitely be going until at least tomorrow morning, and stopping no later than Wednesday lunch. I do not want to go to the gym still fasting. Just because.
Up at 6:10
Walking: 120 minutes
Water: 16 glasses
Bed at 9:00
My energy was good, and I felt clear-headed. (Which was good, because Middlest's friend had a crisis, and I had to jump into rescue mode. Zipping around town for two hours helping them. As the crisis was generated by friend's mother having a massive failure in parenting responsibilities, I feel like Super-Mom. Good for my ego, though the personal anxiety over their situation is bad.) Pleased with the amount of water I drank. It felt just right, though I did have a few more sips during the night for a dry mouth. I have been peeing A LOT.
Planning a quiet day today, with one more walk with the dogs. I have been trying to use my non-eating time to do more slow walking. Very relaxing.
Honey broke his fast at 27 hours, and feels it went well, though didn't do anything amazing for his congestion. I noticed that most of the snacks he chose today, are healthy ones, though.
Went for a lovely hike through the woods this morning, while my honey did the bike loop.
Last edited by Sabine; 05-20-2012, 11:27 AM.
Reason: two -- town -- who knew there was a difference
Here is something else I recently heard of, and have been wanting to try. Mark's post that raspberries and dark chocolate should be eaten together to help avoid a manganese deficiency just gives me a green light. Take a fresh raspberry. Stuff with dark chocolate chip. Serve at room temperature. I think this will be the sweet nibbles next time I have friends over.
This is amazing! This is exactly what I fed my sweet tooth yesterday -- dk chocolate and raspberries. (Not in this form.) HMMM...
Also, thx for the heads up re: Gay Panda. After I finish your (WONDERFUL) journal, I'm headed over there!
Just read an interesting thread on the Nutrition page: Why people get fat from vegetable oil, started by billp. It mentions fat cell death theory, which I had never heard of before.
Brief summary of his point: when vegetable oils are eaten, they go straight to fat cells, and aren't available for use. Even when your body needs the energy, fat that was created by vegetable oil, isn't going to come out. It stays in your fat cell, and on you, until the cell dies, after about two years.
While frustrating in the short term, this would be great for those of us committed to primal as a lifestyle. After two years, all that last stubborn fat would finally get up and go. I do wonder if you might start feeling like crap, though, as you would be essentially doing an enormous detox.
I'm going to try and learn more about this.
Oh my god, this is incredible. I was reading in DEEP NUTRITION that it may take as much as NINE MONTHS for the full benefits of completely avoiding gluten to appear. Completely. Avoiding. And I was like, ok, I can go without wheat for 9 months. But then this! Two years for the veggie oil cells to die! Okay. Awesome. Now I know. I threw out all my veggie oil last week and I am committed to only cooking with lard and coconut oil. Thanks for your awesome journal!
Kalli- I have no idea if this is factual. Just thought it was interesting and want to learn more about it. I do feel it might explain some weight loss (or lack thereof) patterns. Still haven't done any research on it. Guess I'm hoping Mark will take care of that, if I wait long enough.
Luckily, the will power is only being hauled out to deal with the habit of wanting to eat, and the mental desire to have the tastes.
So far, no hunger.
Although, I did think I might be starting to feel hungry at about 1:30, followed by a little light-headedness. It went away, but if it returns in a few hours, I will call that hunger. Very manageable, though. No desire to throw myself on a plate of food, just sort of an academic interest, as in, 'Could I be hungry? Maybe. Let's see.'
Which in itself, is a very interesting way to be feeling. Oh, how I love not being obsessed by food, the way I used to be, day in and day out.
Good for you! You must be really proud of yourself.
I was reading a couple of pages back about the fat cells and such - the movie "Fathead" and Naughton's "Big Fat Fiasco" have some info on this sort of thing, although I don't remember anything about possibly be able to purge those fat cells from your body with primal eating (let's pray). Although maybe there was! Also Gary Taubes's book "Why We Get Fat..." addresses that issue also in quite some detail. I'm a complete geek, so I like detail. He tackles the really interesting issue of why people who live in poverty and actually don't have enough to eat can be and are quite obese. It has to do with the cells holding onto fat.
All right I am finally caught up, geez, you guys sure are chatty! Anyway, wanted to mention that you can freeze fresh ginger so you can always have it on hand (for your cucumber Thai salad). And congrats on the fast. My body is still not at a point where I don't feel ill if I skip too many meals, someday.
"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
Oooh. Okay, grating up a bunch of ginger and freezing it would be worthwhile.
I found Gary Taubes' and Tom Mcnaughton's explanations of how you are not fat because you overeat, you overeat because you are fat(and not processing nutrients effectively) to be very helpful to me. At the very least, it helps me not to beat myself up so much when I overeat. I'm beginning to understand that it is not a matter of willpower, but my body crying out for something. (When it is not emotions.) I just need to figure out what it really wants. And sadly, no, it is not usually chocolate cake. Though, maybe, sometime, it might be.
Yeah, he says something like, "You're as fat as you need to be." Meaning that your body is just doing what it needs to survive on the fuel you are providing. And since our diets have become highly politicized and a source of income/career building/general pissing match, we can be inadvertently providing ourselves with the wrong fuel. I know I was! If you told me 7 weeks ago I would be grain free, I wouldn't even know what you meant! And this is my 6-week anniversary! It is pretty obvious to me, at this point, that FAT is what my body wants. Limiting fat was the worst thing for my mood, my energy, my health.