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  • Congratulations on the size 14 Sabine!! THat is AWESOME! You are doing so well! Enjoy!
    Start weight: 225.5 lbs Feb 14th 2012. Height: 5'7"
    Primal low: 186 lbs
    Current weight: 221.4 lbs
    Goal weight: 140 lbs

    "You are free to choose, BUT you are not free from the consequences of your choices."


    • Originally posted by Sabine View Post
      Size 14 is a real step forward for me.
      I don't get it... you primal ladies are always getting hotter but never posting pics

      Congrats on the step forward!
      SW (Nov 22nd 2011): 333
      Current Weight as of Nov 25 2015: 248
      Short Term Goal: Fit into the shirts I got on my honeymoon at disney and universal in august next year when I go back to for my 1 year anniversary
      Met Goal: Be a 2x Shirt, Fit in a standard airplane seat belt without the use of a seat belt extension
      Long Term Goal: 166lbs (One day!), Buy whatever cloths I want to wear.
      Pain is temporary, quitting is forever- Lance Armstrong #NoExcuses


      • I don't know how confident I would have to feel in my looks to post a picture of myself of the forum. More so than I am now, that's for sure. You have seen my hands, though.

        I started making my primal reasons list yesterday. Now I get to play with the words and make it pretty.

        Eating-wise, here's what else I did:

        Up at 5:00

        5:45 5 chicken wings with ranch dip
        2 low-carb crepes with jam and cream

        1:15 lots of sashimi and a moderate amount of seaweed

        5:00 quarter-pounder with cheese, no bun
        2 bites of BigMac
        some fries with ketchup
        junior vanilla shake

        Water: 13 glasses
        Walking: 50"
        Sun: not really
        Pains: 6

        Bed at 9:00

        The bites of BigMac tasted just as I remembered(delicious!) and were just enough. Note the 7 1/2 hours between breakfast and lunch. You know you're eating right when your breakfast can carry you that long. The crepes were made from a recipe I modified from the Heller's '7-Day Low-Carb Rescue and Recovery Plan' book. Here's my version:

        4 eggs
        2T gluten-free flour blend(rice, tapioca,arrowroot,sorghum, xanthan)
        enough cream to make it the right texture- I think about 1/2-3/4C

        Cook in a VERY thin layer in a little butter. This recipe made 9 crepes, so about 2g carb each.

        So far, I just used them with cream/jam/strawberries, but I think next time I will try a savory crepe, with some chicken and cheese.

        But not for a while.

        Tomorrow I am starting my SNAP challenge: eating for $4.50 per day for a week. This is the (maximum) amount one person gets if they receive food stamps. I think doing JUDDD will give me a slight advantage, as every other day will just be tea(.10/serving), booch(.50/bottle), and lemon/sugar/salt for my water. Being primal will give me a decided cost disadvantage, as I am not going to go for cheap 'fillers'. But those would make me feel bad in any case, and if I am going to challenge myself, I don't need to feel bad.

        The biggest hardship will be lack of variety. There's not a lot you can buy for $30.00(I'm not having Honey and Littlest doing it). I subtracted $1.50 as the cost of the three bottles of booch I will be consuming. I will be having mostly the same things every Up Day.

        Let you know how it goes!


        • SNAP Challenge

          I did my planning and shopping for my week of eating on $4.50/day. That's $31.50 for the week, and the first thing I did was subtract $1.50 for the cost of three bottles of my homemade kombucha.

          The SNAP guidelines say no using anything you already have, but that's impractical. Most people having to go on food stamps will still have SOME leftovers and pantry items.

          So, I made these modifications:
          I can use salt, pepper, and sweetener(for flavor, not large amounts as would be needed if I am baking something).
          I can use one spice per dish. I can get most spices for $1.00 a packet, so I can even see replacing these at one or two per week as needed. But food stamps wouldn't allow me to have all the spices I wanted, so my compromise will be one per dish.
          I can use ONE leftover dish from my fridge for this week. I chose my cauli-rice dish. I haven't even gotten to taste it yet, so that was easy!
          I can use the homemade broth in the freezer. Just because you are on food stamps, doesn't mean you can't do investment cooking. I will be tossing the bones from the meats I eat in the freezer as usual, so I will be making new broth from leftovers.
          Likewise, I can use my kombucha, but I will 'charge' myself the amount it costs to make, which is $.50 per bottle.

          This is what I bought:

          8.49 ground beef
          2.50 tea
          2.44 pork
          1.95 chicken thighs
          1.52 head of cabbage
          1.00 large can of tomatoes
          1.00 2 pounds of carrots
          0.27 yellow onion
          2.89 12 eggs
          0.85 frozen spinach
          1.84 cream cheese
          0.75 3 lemons
          0.79 can of salsa verde
          1.00 jar of mayo
          1.00 3 zucchini
          1.50 3 bottles of kombucha

          29.79 expended = $1.71 'left over' for another purchase, or to go towards a theoretical second week, perhaps to buy those replacement spices, or some sour cream, which I was sad not to be able to afford.

          I made a soup from one pound of ground beef, the onion, half the cabbage, four carrots, and the can of tomatoes. And some coleslaw from 1/4 of the cabbage.

          My basic meal plan for Down Days is to continue my plan of water, tea, and kombucha, with some soup instead of a protein shake or green smoothie if I want more.

          On Up Days I will be having a breakfast of ground beef patty topped with one or two eggs. There will be two dinners of chicken, and two of pork. Vegetables will be one or more of these: carrots, coleslaw, creamed spinach, zucchini. I will be doing any frying in the leftover hamburger grease. Lunches will be soup, creamed spinach with poached eggs, and/or leftovers.

          I don't think I will be hungry, but I can see how it could get tedious. And if I was not doing ADF, the amounts, spread over 7 days, instead of four, would be small. I DO think I might get hungry then.


          • how did you buy 3 bottles of kombucha for $1.50 ???
            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
            2. Eat to heal
            3. Move to live
            4. Embrace today
            5. Live with intention
            6. Respect my body
            7. Cultivate joy
            8. Find my passion
            9. Meditate on peace in my soul


            • You missed the part where I said I was charging myself for the cost of my homemade booch! No, sadly, those on food stamps would find it hard to enjoy the wonder that is store-bought booch. They would even find it hard to spring for one bottle to make a SCOBY from. I mean, it would be almost 10% of their weekly budget!


              • Oh, yes I did see that - just slipped my mind.
                1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                2. Eat to heal
                3. Move to live
                4. Embrace today
                5. Live with intention
                6. Respect my body
                7. Cultivate joy
                8. Find my passion
                9. Meditate on peace in my soul


                • sadly the difference is that most on food stamps would use more grains and beans and the cheaper convenience foods.

                  When I was single and much younger, and first became a hairdresser (ie. no clientele yet), my cousin and I were roommates. This was helpful, because of how we were able to do the whole money thing since we were family. But anyway, paychecks barely paid the bills and we ate off of my tips. So if I got no tips, we had iced tea for food that day. Anyway, because we were not able to store up enough money to actually buy anything at the grocery store, we ate fast food, usually at Crystal's (we could get 4 burgers for a dollar in those days) and drank our homemade iced tea. We kept our change in a jar and used it to supplement when my tips were low. So we usually had food (days off we ate at my parents house). But I can tell you we didn't lose weight, and it was quite a while before I had a regular clientele and she had gotten enough promotions that we could actually go to the grocery store.
                  "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."

                  My journal:

                  My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.


                  • The guy whose blog I read (CEO of Panera) that inspired me to try this, went the whole grains/legumes route. He said he regretted it, because he felt bloated and tired almost at once. But when you are living on food stamps, there's no saying 'oh, this was a mistake, let me toss it and start over.'

                    Something strange happened as I was buying my groceries. I went to three different stores to get the best prices for what I was purchasing. In line ahead of me at the 99cent store was a lady using her Lone Star card, which is the card for food stamps in Texas. It wasn't working, although she was sure there was still a balance. It turned out that she had $7.00 left on the card, and her purchase was $9.20. Once they figured that out, the $7.00 went through, but she had to dig for change to make the balance. She was buying bananas(the bags of brown ones that were marked even further down), pasta, and crackers(I think). She kept apologizing for holding up the line, and I could tell she was very embarrassed.


                    • that's very sad - we were poor growing up, but mom somehow made the money stretch. She was widowed with 3 daughters, plus me on the way. We received Social Security and Veterans Benefits until we reached 18 years of age. That was moms only income. She refused to go on welfare or ask for food stamps. She never worked. I don't know how she made the money last through the month, but we always ate well and had a nice home.
                      1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                      2. Eat to heal
                      3. Move to live
                      4. Embrace today
                      5. Live with intention
                      6. Respect my body
                      7. Cultivate joy
                      8. Find my passion
                      9. Meditate on peace in my soul


                      • Yesterday:

                        Up at 5:30

                        6:30 tea

                        2:15 booch

                        7:45 bite of hash- roasted veg, chicken, egg

                        Water: 8
                        Walking: 40"
                        Pains: 7
                        Sun: no

                        Bed at 9:30

                        One jar of the booch was ready to be bottled. I added blackberries and ginger. Keeping a weather eye on the other two jars.

                        Starting my SNAP challenge today. Breakfast will be a ground beef patty with two fried eggs. And I'm going to throw the pork in the slow cooker with green sauce for Thursday. I'm excited to see if the meals I planned will be good enough to keep me happy all four days, or if I will be begging for some variety by next Tuesday.


                        • Oops, I was mistaken. $4.50 is not the HIGHEST amount one can receive on food stamps, it is the AVERAGE. Thank goodness, because I was wondering how a teenage boy, pregnant woman, or nursing mom would make it on this!


                          • Day 1

                            And I'm off!

                            I could already feel the difference this first day. As I was packing Littlest's lunch, I realized I wouldn't be allowed to taste the kiwi berries I was putting in. If I was feeding my family on SNAP, of course, I wouldn't be BUYING these little treats, not at $2.99 per package. Food stamps means no experimenting with little fun things that cost 1/10th of your budget. Well, no, of course not, food stamps are for hard times. Experimenting is a luxury. But still, it made me sad. I like for my kids to be adventurous in their foods. Glad that Littlest is not doing this with me.

                            Next realization: although my breakfast of 1/2lb ground beef with 2 fried eggs filled me up, I missed my A-1 sauce. Or other options of some blue cheese, fried onions, or a sliced avocado. Sigh.

                            By lunch time, I was definitely thinking of food. I wasn't HUNGRY per se, but I was food-bored: I wanted something to eat. Something fun. I began to think I had made a serious mistake in not planning for a treat for each day. Maybe I will use that $1.71 to buy some jello. I sipped up my 2 cups of meat and vegetable soup very slowly, to make it last. I could have had some creamed spinach with eggs, or coleslaw, but I felt that first nagging worry: if I eat that NOW, I might not have it for LATER.

                            I got busy in the afternoon, and didn't think about dinner until almost 6:00. Fried up my chicken, used some chicken grease to make my zuccini( again with just oregano), and heated up my cauli-rice leftovers. The cauli-rice recipe was okay, nothing special, I wouldn't make it again, but I found myself scooping up extra. It was there, and it was filling. The chicken and zuccini were delicious. But when I was done with them, I was DONE. I wrapped up the rest of the chicken and put it into the freezer to eat on Sunday. I realized I couldn't afford to have them hanging out in the fridge. What if they went bad, and there was nothing to eat on Sunday? What if I ate them beforehand, and there was nothing to eat on Sunday? What if someone else got them, AND THERE WAS NOTHING TO EAT ON SUNDAY?! Man, it doesn't take long to become protective about your food, does it?

                            Littlest snacked on some cheese to round out her dinner( well, why not, there was no extra-creamy goodness WITH it!) and offered me some, before realizing I couldn't have any. She was sorry, and so was I ...that cheese looked and smelled good! (Gouda.)

                            I went to bed not hungry, but sightly edgy. I felt like I was missing something. I think maybe I was nervous about heading into a Down Day not feeling satisfied. I woke up this morning a little hungry, but ready mentally for my Down Day. I have good habits now. I am counting on them to carry me through. And I have that soup waiting, in case I need something. And carrots. And 1/4 head of cabbage. I can make it!

                            Interesting note: my weight was down two pounds this morning. After an Up Day. I usually swing UPwards.


                            • I commend you on your experiments, however limiting they may be. I suspect this experiment will have you appreciating the luxuries you do have. I'm not sure this is an experiment I'd be willing to try. I think it would make me feel guilty for what we have in comparison to what others don't have.
                              Primal since March 5, 2012
                              SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)


                              • Thanks, Jenn. I know I am already missing and appreciating some things. And I'm so lucky that in my normal life, cheese and sour cream are just basics, not luxuries. I hope I am a compassionate person, but I'm sure I can use a booster every once in a while.

                                In lighter news...I am bottling up two more jars (6 bottles) of booch! Very exciting. I now have enough to have one bottle every other day and not run out before the next batch is ready! I think I started this in early August, so it took less than two months to become 'self-sufficient' in booch. Another month, and I'll be able to have it EVERY day, which will be a luxury indeed! However, refrigerator space may become an issue. Oh, I just need to stagger my jars. Good idea, self.

                                Walked to the store for family supplies this morning. We are having a beautiful fall this year. It couldn't have been more than 75 degrees. I DID get chatted up by a man on a bike (no, not Honey). I think it was more an effect of my smile than my incredible new, smaller jeans! Though, who can say! I am still absurdly pleased with myself that I am in a smaller size, and am enjoying the thrill it gives me.