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  • Also, I went to a Greek restaurant Sat night & had lamb, well-cooked green beans, potatoes, 1/8C red bell pepper hummus, & one very small bite of custard (didn't enjoy). Didn't want any of the chocolate cake (birthday) or other desserts, so that's quite nice. **Did not feel lethargic the next day** just had a small period of sleepiness, maybe an hour.

    In fact, that reminds me, the three hours of mid-afternoon sleepiness hasn't happened in nearly a week! Not since the physical energy has also increased ... not since the grounding at night started? I just realized this! Great news! (knock on wood, lol)

    But my knee hurts this morning, the way it used to after a long downhill hike. Weird, b/c I certainly haven't hiked, but also makes me wonder if it could be the potatoes I ate 60hrs ago? Or the whole bag of strawberries last night?

    What is it about me that I can eat 96g of fruit carbs & have a blood glucose of 181 an hour later?
    5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
    Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
    Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
    Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
    ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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    • Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
      Last night, 4mo & 135.

      This morning, 3mo & 132.75.

      I had coconut cream each of the last two days, & curry. I have sausage with cayenne & trace sugar daily. None of these things seem to have a noticeable affect so long as I have my ox bile going
      Love your journal. Had read tons of it last year but then lost track and am catching up again. Do you take a specific brand/amount of ox bile? I have bloating issues with coconut products (not oil), brussel sprouts, broccoli, etc and wonder if ox bile would help? All of these things are things I love and would like to be able to have the coconut products since I don't do dairy! Thanks for any help you can provide and keep up the amazing work you do with your health! You will so figure out this current hurdle you are facing!

      Christi Lynn
      Last edited by Christi Lynn; 03-27-2013, 07:24 PM.

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      • Christus Resurrexit! Alleluia, Alleluia!
        5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
        Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
        Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
        Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
        ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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        • Originally posted by Christi Lynn View Post
          Love your journal. Had read tons of it last year but then lost track and am catching up again. Do you take a specific brand/amount of ox bile? I have bloating issues with coconut products (not oil), brussel sprouts, broccoli, etc and wonder if ox bile would help? All of these things are things I love and would like to be able to have the coconut products since I don't do dairy! Thanks for any help you can provide and keep up the amazing work you do with your health! You will so figure out this current hurdle you are facing!

          Christi Lynn
          I have had success with cholacol & Jarrow brands, and maybe nutricology (not sure).

          I, too, bloat with all those foods, and many more. It seemed ox bile had stopped all that, but now I am bloating with everything again, although the cramps & runs are gone (thank goodness, good riddance). So now I eat the coconut products, anyway, since they don't make me any worse than anything else. :/

          Thanks for the vote of confidence. While the weight gain is baffling & so is the bloating, my current physical energy & mental emotional stability is fantastic, and my voice is very clear (certainly helpful singing the Easter Sequence at 7:30 Mass this morning!) after months and months of a thickness & stuffiness in it, so something is definitely going right at the same time other things are going wrong. In the past, all these things would go up and down together, so the parting of their trends is very interesting!
          5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
          Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
          Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
          Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
          ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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          • Let's see, re-started the wifi experiment Wed night, I think. Thurs, IIRC, I had some weirdness - can't remember what. It wasn't sleepiness or crawl-in-a-corner or anything ...can't remember. Sunday I was sleepy sleepy sleepy, and legs were very heavy. Could have been something in the GF cake I had Saturday.

            Speaking of which, I had a fairly clear voice all last week, then after eating that cake (the only unusual thing I had that day), I felt my nose swell and voice get stuffier. Nose bled that night, and was clearer in the morning, with lots of phlegm (perfect for Ave Maria on Easter morning, lol). I had a GF blondie (and cookie and cake pop) from the same bakery the day before with no bad effects (well, in my nose, anyway - had the usual "holy crap that was too much sugar) effects). The baker said that the only thing different in the cake was baking soda ... and the frosting was "powdered sugar (spun organic sugar & vanilla) & butter". I'm waiting to hear back whether the powdered sugar had corn starch in it - that could have done it?

            Right now I feel like I have a hard, uncomfortable gut - had ground beef, bacon, a bite of cauliflower, and hollandaise sauce (egg yolk, butter, lemon juice, cayenne). Just realized I forgot my HCl & protein enzyme. Could that be why?

            I'm holding steady at one ox bile each morning. I might experiment with one or half one in the evening again soon.

            Right now, my eating rules are hard and fast at NO:
            - grains
            - sweeteners
            - dairy (except butter)
            - nuts
            - fruit in any form except whole

            Everything else is on the table (starches in extreme moderation status). I feel like this helps me to get nourished while avoid the biggest binge triggers. I'm having 9oz protein each morning, b/c honestly, I was bingeing even with 13-14 (dunno why this started) and I feel that I just can't digest that much. Contributing to bloating? Bloating is continuous now, and I'm at 145lb. An amazing, mysterious 13lb gain in 4-5 weeks. Unbelievable. This has never, ever happene dto me before. Strangely, people are still askign if I"m still losing, even though my face is noticeably puffy. I can feel the fattiness of my chin. It's just all so odd.

            But energy & mood are FANTASTIC, and voice is clear. It's all so mysterious.
            5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
            Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
            Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
            Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
            ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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            • I was wonderfully blessed to be able to go horseback riding today at the GA International Horse Park. I haven't cantered in so long; it was lovely.

              Then I was terribly sleepy this afternoon, just miserable. It waned a bit as I had things I had to do, then hit again and I wasn't able to make dinner. Still very sleepy. I really wanted to go to bed at 8! But the good news is, my legs kept working. I just kept doing little, low-energy decluttering. So thankful for that!

              Big cravings this evening. I really wanted a GF cookie. I had an apple with lunch and an orange with dinner, and just decided to have another orange. It seemed to be enough. I am really trying to stick to whole fruit as my only sweet source, b/c I don't seem to be able to binge hard on that right now. Does it still make a binge on something else more likely? That remains to be seen.
              5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
              Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
              Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
              Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
              ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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              • Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
                I have had success with cholacol & Jarrow brands, and maybe nutricology (not sure).

                I, too, bloat with all those foods, and many more. It seemed ox bile had stopped all that, but now I am bloating with everything again, although the cramps & runs are gone (thank goodness, good riddance). So now I eat the coconut products, anyway, since they don't make me any worse than anything else. :/

                Thanks for the vote of confidence. While the weight gain is baffling & so is the bloating, my current physical energy & mental emotional stability is fantastic, and my voice is very clear (certainly helpful singing the Easter Sequence at 7:30 Mass this morning!) after months and months of a thickness & stuffiness in it, so something is definitely going right at the same time other things are going wrong. In the past, all these things would go up and down together, so the parting of their trends is very interesting!
                Thanks for the answer to my question! I'll be placing an order for the ox bile as soon as I figure out the other things I need to order as I'll be making my own beauty and cleaning products and dumping the toxic stuff by mid May. So many things to do, learn, etc to try to restore health but I'm sure it will be worth it! Sure hope that your bloating leaves and you figure out your stuff! Thanks so much for sharing all that you do as it helps so many to see they aren't alone!

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                • Keep us posted on your experience with it!

                  Today - felt a bit resistant to doing what I should this morning, but had an otherwise good energy & mood day. I was really able to stay calm in my dealings with even the most blatantly offensively disobedient child today - a wonderful improvement. I've been praying for the ability to parent the way I want (gentle & firm all at the same time, all from love) for almost a decade now, and not had the emotional stability to do it. Before that time, I had tremendous emotional stability even int he face of the biggest obstacles of life, for my whole life. I'd love to return to that!
                  5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                  Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                  Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                  Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                  ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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                  • Having trouble the last few mornings gettnig away from the computer, even though later energy has been better. This is throwing my whole day off. I haven't woken up feeling as rested, either. I just felt (4:45pm) the first twinge of feeling overwhelmed that I've had in close to a month. Not liking it.
                    5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                    Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                    Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                    Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                    ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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                    • 15lb in two months.

                      Wow.

                      It appears clear to me that every binge, even though none of them are as big or as bad as what I used to have daily, even though none of them are any worse than the few I had in Nov & Dec, every binge since January has resulted in a 3lb weight gain. None of those binges were of 3lb of food; none of them were 3lb worth of calories; yet I have gained 3lb with each one. The scale shows it.

                      I have no idea how this is possible.

                      Is it as simple as what Taubes theorized? Carbs -> Insulin -> Fat storage.
                      5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                      Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                      Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                      Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                      ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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                      • It's your body's way of adaptation. It's water weight. Carbs need water when you eat them, so it holds on to the water, once you go ultra low carb after a binge your body should drop the weight within the week of the binge.
                        ~*Lori*~
                        my Primal journal : http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...-momofredheads
                        my food blog http://iamhungrywhatsfordinner.blogspot.com/

                        SW 231 as of 1/1/2012
                        CW 192

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                        • Wow mamma Grok you are an inspiration. 2 kids myself (1&3) and I really struggle to beat sugar addiction and focus on being primal while feeding them. I'd welcome advice on baby steps to beat the cravings and protein with breakfast sounds like a good one

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                          • Originally posted by momofredheads View Post
                            It's your body's way of adaptation. It's water weight. Carbs need water when you eat them, so it holds on to the water, once you go ultra low carb after a binge your body should drop the weight within the week of the binge.
                            Sadly, no dice. In the past, a binge would result in bloating & water retention for 6 days. Starting in Jan/Feb, it would just go up and never go away. I can go zero carb for three weeks (and have), and the bloating stays. and stays. and stays.

                            I went up to 18lb, and back down to 15lb. It won't go away. It might be the DHEA. I went off that a week ago. No loss yet.

                            This really sux.
                            5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                            Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                            Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                            Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                            ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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                            • Some info that may be coalescing into a theory:

                              Estrogen -> SHBG
                              SHBG responds by lowering E, T, & thyroid - all three, not just one!

                              So, did my taking DHEA starting in January raise Estrogen, which bound up my E, T, & thyroid, making my think that I had low E & T (as the numbers showed)? And did the E cause the 15lb weight gain in 6 weeks?

                              TBTG, no more gain in the last few weeks. Steady at 147.5. Suck, but better than gaining still.

                              I started saw palmetto today to keep my natural DHEA from converting into Estrogen and maybe get a jump start on the weight loss by doing so.

                              Next question: why is my E high? I think this high E has been going on for some time, and I don't have the usual risk factors.*

                              (Source: Uzzi Reiss & Dr. Mariano from CA)
                              Last edited by MamaGrok; 04-28-2013, 03:58 PM.
                              5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                              Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                              Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                              Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                              ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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                              • Got irritable & headachey today for the first time in a long time. Possible culprits: taking 2 instead of 3 l-tyro for the last few days (but I was past the irritable/headache stuff long before taking l-tyro) or running out of HCl and not taking any at all today.

                                Same weight for nearly three weeks, but clearly a body comp shift. Pants are feeling slightly slightly looser while my upper arms continue to get fatter. Weird. Not my pattern at all. I'm taking saw palmetto every day and plan to get some DIM soon.

                                I do feel like I might be getting a little less cravy the more days I stay at full amino levels and then some, when it comes to l-glut. But one bite of golden raisin today and I went a little nuts on them.


                                The irritable feeling is like in my brain. I feel like something is literally irritating my mind. I also had a c-clamp headache this evening. I think my senses may be more sensitive, too. dh rubbing my head made me want to shrink away.
                                Last edited by MamaGrok; 05-01-2013, 07:13 PM.
                                5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                                Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                                Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                                Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                                ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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