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  • PC and Lex, I am ordering the Schwarzbein book today.
    Primal since 9/24/2010
    "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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    • Paula, I think you will enjoy it & hopefully you will find it useful. For those of us with adrenal issues its a godsend! After reading it, is kind of when I decided to not worry so much about "weight loss" but healing...especially the adrenals & my thyroid issues. The pounds coming off is just a wonderful benefit to healing a "broken" system. She says you can't lose weight until your hormones/adrenals/etc...are in balance. You don't lose weight to get healthy...you get healthy to lose weight. Sounds weird but I believe it now. I also, now, according to her, don't eat anything without it being a balance...as in never eat a protein by itself or a carb by itself. Eat a protein & a carb together. So now when I eat my breakfast which was totally protein/fat...I have a piece of my 7 grain sprout bread or a fruit, or *gasp* a half cup of hash brown potatoes! Even my snack(if I eat one at all) is a protein & a carb. Its working good for me at least. Everyone just has to keep trying to find the right balance for them...CJ (longing2bfit) found her's...I think Lex & I have found ours...the key is to just not give up! Look how many tries it took inventors to find the right way to build a light bulb...or the phone...or the phonograph...etc! Our bodies are so complex & it gets frustrating no doubt. Been there done that. But I've come to the conclusion that this is not a quick fix...its gonna take time to heal the damage that the last 40 years or so(for me) has done. So I've taken a deep breath, calmed the hell down & just plod along doing what I can to heal & enjoying life & the process. I've learned waaaaayyy to much over the last 6 months to ever go back to eating the SAD, so no worries there. I've even quit obsessing over buying every book on health & nutrition that I can! After reading Schwarzbein & another book called "Adrenal Fatigue, The 21st Century Stress Syndrome" by James L. Wilson, I feel like I've learned what I need to do. I don't obsess over calories...or if its paleo/primal or not or whatever. Since I'm following Schwarzbien anyways I don't have to worry about calories. I feel calmer...more in control now that I understand what my problem is. And MIL issues have been drastically reduced as well so that helps the stress big time. Life is good!!!

      Thanks Coll. Yes even tho its alot of work & time consuming I love love love seeing those jars on the shelf! I have already canned 13 qts of green beans & will be canning another probably 7 today. Friday I canned 4 pts of stewed tomatoes (tomorrow I will be probably canning double that as the tomatoes have decided to kick into high gear!) 2 qts of eggplant (freezer) & a qt of okra (freezer). I'm giving away buckets of squash & zucchini. I love the money I save by not buying reg/organic produce from the store...& of course there is no comparison to the taste. I highly recommend looking around your area to see if there is a farmer's market or market days or what have you to get fresh produce. Around here we have a couple of farms that are called "pick your own" & they will let you go pick your own stuff. I did that before honey planted his garden & is fun & cheaper than buying it already done.

      well guess I'd better get to it. I hope everyone has a wonderful day & I'll check in occasionally.
      {{{hugs}}}
      Goal: Don't worry be happy!

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      • I read the intro so far.
        I can't do HRT whether I need it or not, so that may be a problem. I may have to email her.
        I doubt I will eat bread sprouted or not, but there are other options.
        Sleep 8 hrs, give up coffee. Yikes.lol

        On the "finding what works" note. Primal worked great for me, but something changed and now I have all these physical and mental road blocks. It is very frustrating.
        Last edited by Pebbles67; 06-04-2012, 10:07 AM.
        Primal since 9/24/2010
        "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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        • I'm glad you have found something that works for you. Right now I'm venturing through the Whole30 using strict paleo. Everyone has their 'thing' that works.
          Primal since March 5, 2012
          SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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          • absolutely Jenn!! That's why everyone has to keep trying different things & not give up.

            Paula...its ok if you can't do HRT (& there are different kinds, did you know that? I didn't.) The book will explain. And you can probably contact her thru her website if you still have questions after reading the book.
            Goal: Don't worry be happy!

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            • PC & Lex, I am reading the "Schwarzbein Principal Program" book. I notice there are 2 others. The original "Schwarzbein Principal" and "SP II". Which would you recommend I read next?

              I started in today with the "square meal" concept. This is already a change because I don't always have both carb and non starchy veg with each meal. I plan on 3 meals/day
              Primal since 9/24/2010
              "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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              • Paula...Lex & I read the SP II book. I haven't read the others, don't know if she has or not. I don't recall her saying that she had.

                I had my scrambled eggs this morning with a half cup leftover potatoes from last night...'fried' in a little butter(not fried with the eggs tho). yummy. I will probably have a very light lunch, more like a snack...& then probably baked fish for supper with steamed vegi's & a fruit. Her meal plans & snack idea's I thought were pretty great & easily adaptable...& pretty much primal friendly.

                I hope the books help you as they helped us.
                Goal: Don't worry be happy!

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                • The timing of things is funny. Recently, someone mentioned to me that they thought I might have adrenal fatigue. It turns out that hypoglycemia is one symptom of too much cortisol and adrenalin. All my other weird symptoms fit in as well.
                  Then I took a peek at the SP books based on things that you and Lex said in your journals. Now I some new tweaks to try.
                  It's good because I really had no idea what to do next.
                  Primal since 9/24/2010
                  "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                  • oh wow! what a coincidence! Things happen for a reason I always say! You could very well have adrenal fatigue in some stage. In the SP II she gives a "test" to help you determine if you have it or not. I don't know if the one you are reading does...I've not read it. And I had a neuro-transmitter/adrenal test done(saliva & blood test) to determine that I actually had it.

                    Like I said before...its all trial & error. If something doesn't work, try something else! Never give up. I hope that reading Dr. Schwarzbien's stuff helps you figure it out!! I'll be anxious to see if it helps you.
                    Goal: Don't worry be happy!

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                    • good morning all! I just wanted to post a link that you might enjoy looking at. Its two video's(pt 1 & pt 2) on my dr's website about thyroid/adrenal problems. Very very interesting & he explains things so so well!! Dr. Pompa is not my doc, just so you know. (My doc does do phone consultations & I believe email as well, if you don't have a naturopath/nutritionist in your area.) Anyways...I thought the video's were great & when I have more time I'm going to peruse Dr. Pompa's website to watch more video's & read more info.

                      Understanding Hypothyroidism | Dr. Tim Holcomb's Natural Health & Wellness of Victoria, TX

                      hope it helps!
                      Goal: Don't worry be happy!

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                      • Hm - will come back to whenever I get full frickin health coverage. I can't wait to get some new tests done to know in a more concrete way what the hell is actually going on inside my body.
                        Starting weight: 225
                        Current weight: 195
                        Goal: One pull-up by December 31, 2012
                        Method: Schwarzbein Principle II, program for insulin sensitive/burned-out adrenals
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                        • Hi Lex! Having the tests done, even tho I didn't have insurance, sure gave me peace of mind knowing exactly what was wrong & how I could then go about fixing it. The neuro/adrenal saliva test I had done was $220. The complete thryroid profile was $110 I had sold some old gold jewelry to get some extra money & used some of it to pay for the tests. Even tho I hated to see that money leave my hot little hands I was glad I did it. The way I look at it is its an investment in my health.

                          Hope you're getting all settled in & enjoying the job! Oh, did you see where Paula is now following Schwarzbien's program? She said this morning she's lost a pound!! Yay her!!!

                          I'm still canning stuff from the garden like crazy. Put up 6 qts of new potatoes Wed...took MIL to town yesterday instead of today...so today I'll be canning more tomatoes. I think I probably have close to 20 pounds sitting all over the place! Boy are they good! I can eat one just like an apple! So guess I'd better get to work!!

                          have a fabulous friday!!
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                          • I've never eaten a tomato like an apple. In fact, I don't even HAVE any tomatoes yet... I have a bloom, but no tomatoes. I have teeny tiny green peppers starting to form. Peas are dying off (prematurely??) so I planted more seeds. Planted some green bean seeds too. Saw a vermin of some sort dug up one of my seeds. B@stard vermin. Might have to put the seeds up high where they can't get them - unless said vermin is a squirrel, then I'm pretty well screwed. Probably a coon, though. But they can climb too... Hell, maybe I'll get some wire screen to wrap around the pot til they sprout. *threadjack*

                            Anyhow... how did things go with your MIL yesterday? I haven't seen much in regard to her lately...
                            Primal since March 5, 2012
                            SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                            • Hi Jenn! no prob on the threadjack! I love hearing & talking about gardens! Sorry you're having trouble getting seeds to come up. We've not had any problem with the vermin...the chickens on the other hand have been a bit of nuisance. Honey didn't bring in very many tomatoes tonight cause the chickens have been taking bites out of the ones they can reach. Bad chickens! I think he will probably put up a fence so they can't get in there for the fall garden. The screen idea was a good one! he's going to have to do that with the cantaloupe...they have discovered them now.

                              Things went ok with MIL yesterday. Quiet, as I don't engage in much conversation. I pretty much only answer in one or two word responses. Or only talk about benign things...the weather etc. Don't have much to say to her & even tho she tries to bring up things about her health sometimes, I ignore it. She said yesterday that the dr's office called & said that according to the blood work results that she is probably taking to much T4 Thyroid medication. Huh? Why did he tell her that everything was ok when I took her in for the followup because of her toe & that whole other big drama? He said then everything was fine! But I didn't say a word. Just said "hmm". She never questions anything, so I'm not either. Her daughter is coming in next Wed...so for 2 wks neither me or SIL has to haul her ass around! Now what's gonna happen with the daughter remains to be seen. I'm standing my ground tho. I think she's gonna steer clear of me tho. Bitch that I am!! LOL Not worried about it at all.

                              Well I'm sooo tired. Did 6 jars of picante sauce & 3 jars of tomato sauce today. Tomatoes are my least favorite thing to process. They take alot of time & are so messy!! But oh are they good come about January!!! lol Next go 'round will be more stewed tomatoes, probably Sunday. Tomorrow is dilled okra as I have enough now to make about 6 jars. And some more pkgs of eggplant in the freezer. We got about a half inch of rain yesterday evening & its amazing how much that has helped everything! Like giving them a shot of growth serum!!

                              I'm off to go take a shower & then relax with a book. Hope everyone has a great evening & weekend!!
                              Goal: Don't worry be happy!

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                              • PC, I haven't been on here in a little while and I'm sorry about that. I noticed that the central portion of Texas has been getting considerably more rain this year. I can't wait to head down towards that area in August! I'm hoping it'll be nice and green and to get some hiking done.

                                I'm glad to read that you're standing your ground! I'm sure that brings the stress levels down quite a bit.
                                Don't let nobody try and take your soul. You're the original . --Switchfoot- The Original

                                GW: 135 SW: 156.8 CW: 156.8

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