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  • I'm starting to think I can't do this...

    I don't have an income, I don't live in an area that allows for access to local clean food, it's overwhelming and confusing...

    It feels almost useless if I can only buy conventional meat and veg. How can paleo be sustainable, not only for the individual, but for the environment when a lot of people who eat this way are forced to buy conventional gross plastic wrapped crap? (Tyson, anyone?) I guess I don't have a choice and I'll have to live with that. But in order to have 3 meals a week that feature meat, I'd have to have around 7lbs of meat! Now I would love to be the type of person who only needs to eat twice (and fasting is not an option because I do get pains if I don't eat for too long.)

    What's more my own mother doesn't meal plan and it is starting to bother me. She just gets whatever and makes whatever and often resorts to "go-to dinners" like tuna salad (which most people will just eat as a small snack.) Then if anyone is still hungry they pig out on junk food. It's not even healthy by CW standards. I don't like to judge them but it's frustrating for me when I want to do this and succeed. I want what I hear everyone else saying they have. When my own parents put junk food up over actual food what am I supposed to do? Reasoning with either of them is not going to happen. I tried it. My mother doesn't even seem to be interested in learning to meal plan (I suspect for the same reasons I'm having issues.)
    F|26yr|5'3"
    1st Start: 8.25.12
    SW: 151 CW: 147 GW: -150
    HW: 195

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    • Originally posted by Byakko View Post
      I'm starting to think I can't do this...

      I don't have an income, I don't live in an area that allows for access to local clean food, it's overwhelming and confusing...
      I suspect that you are stronger than you think. If getting healthy is really important to you, you can make it work.

      Living without an income in our society is virtually impossible, as you are finding out. What can you do to generate an income, however small? Once you have that going, build on it. There are a thousand and one things to be done to earn what most people think of as extra income that you can use as seed money to gain traction. What are your talents and skills? Time to parley them into money for food. I've been poor (it's a state of mind) and I've been broke (a temporary condition). After a lot of hard work and some luck hopefully I've seen the backside of each. I wish the same for you.

      Buying pasture raised meats and organic produce is ideal, but not possible for everyone. The key is to focus on making the best possible choices with the resources that you have available. The bones were a terrific move! Choosing an armload of veggies over Lara bars, chocolate, and other treats would be another.

      Congratulations on learning to cook! You-Tube really is a great resource. Be sure to share any great paleo recipes that you try.

      You're trying hard to eliminate toxins from your diet. It may also be necessary to move away from toxic relationships. This would take a lot of planning and work, but may be something to consider. From your posts I gather that you're in a difficult situation right now, but hopefully as you grow healthier and stronger you'll be able to take advantage of future opportunities when they arise.

      Wishing you the very best!

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      • Originally posted by Patti View Post
        I suspect that you are stronger than you think. If getting healthy is really important to you, you can make it work.

        Living without an income in our society is virtually impossible, as you are finding out. What can you do to generate an income, however small? Once you have that going, build on it. There are a thousand and one things to be done to earn what most people think of as extra income that you can use as seed money to gain traction. What are your talents and skills? Time to parley them into money for food. I've been poor (it's a state of mind) and I've been broke (a temporary condition). After a lot of hard work and some luck hopefully I've seen the backside of each. I wish the same for you.

        Buying pasture raised meats and organic produce is ideal, but not possible for everyone. The key is to focus on making the best possible choices with the resources that you have available. The bones were a terrific move! Choosing an armload of veggies over Lara bars, chocolate, and other treats would be another.

        Congratulations on learning to cook! You-Tube really is a great resource. Be sure to share any great paleo recipes that you try.

        You're trying hard to eliminate toxins from your diet. It may also be necessary to move away from toxic relationships. This would take a lot of planning and work, but may be something to consider. From your posts I gather that you're in a difficult situation right now, but hopefully as you grow healthier and stronger you'll be able to take advantage of future opportunities when they arise.

        Wishing you the very best!
        Hi Patti

        Thanks for the words of encouragement. It's definitely going to take a lot of work still. I seem to do pretty well resisting cravings during the day but ultimately some time mid afternoon (around 3-4pm), I get weak, usually give in and binge on sugar and sometimes grains. I actually don't eat a lot of grains unless A.) it was in something my mother cooked or B.) or it's a cookie, something with sugar (the latter is much more likely to happen.)

        Part of it is cravings (and not being properly prepared), the other part might be me wanting to be "normal", meaning that I can't be told "no" just because I have IBS. I should be able to eat what I want like other people. But I can't, because I will experience pain among other bad symptoms. It's like I know this stuff is bad for me but I eat it anyway, even if I don't like it. First few bites or sips are like heaven, but everything after that is less than spectacular. Yet I continue to consume it.

        But I'll try harder each day. If I can make it to half the day, I just have to try harder to make it through the other half. I do things like take 20 minutes to eat so I don't rush, I try not to drink with my meals (which is a big habit). My goal is to go three days without sugar (even if I slip and eat non-sugary grains). They say that's how long it takes to really get over the hell of cravings.
        F|26yr|5'3"
        1st Start: 8.25.12
        SW: 151 CW: 147 GW: -150
        HW: 195

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        • Today was my first time batch cooking. I wanted to do it so the next time I attempt to go paleo, I won't have an excuse of not having any food on hand. I didn't do as many as I'd like. I had planned to start out with 3 meals/recipes. I did two instead and chopped 3 different bell peppers. Still I feel like I did something productive at least. However, I won't say it wasn't kind of nerve wracking. I wasn't exactly organized and I was anxious. Despite it all I tried to learn from my mistakes and even made notes along the way.

          -A clean kitchen is the first step I feel. I hate clutter in general, but I share a kitchen with my family so I don't have much control over it even when I take the initiative. Still, prepping a lot of food around cluttered counters and a dirty water filled sink is not enjoyable.

          -Adjust recipes and know the appliances. The recipe called for me to bake the chicken at 425F but because our oven is weird, that's just way too hot. This time I did it on 375 on the same 45min duration and everything worked out fine. (I also shouldn't keep relying on the microwave to melt/reheat everything!)

          -I learned I need to let meat come to room temp before cooking. It was a recipe from Practical Paleo that involved a butter spread over chicken thighs. Well I drizzled the mixture over the meat. Only a few minutes later I found that the mixture had solidified to the point it didn't want to spread. So I think the combo of cold meat and warm mixture (or at least with butter) requires me to take the meat out earlier.

          -This either makes me lazy or a minimalist but I do not like using up more than what I need to accomplish a job. In fact I like to be as minimal as possible. (My mom suggested I use one set of measuring spoons for wet stuff and one for dry...but I don't want to own two sets of spoons!) More than once today I have used up clean utensils because I wasn't aware enough to keep them on hand (or for that matter, clearing the sink of dirty water so I wouldn't have to give them a good wash.) I suppose this could be partially avoided by gathering everything that's needed ahead of time, which requires forethought on my part.

          -I learned that I need to take time to do some research on foods I'm not used to dealing with. First time cooking chicken livers. They turned out okay, but I wasted a lot of time trying to figure out how best to handle them. Might sound silly but it's true. I'm not that squeamish or anything. It was more so how to prepare them.

          That's all I can think of in regards to my adventure in batch cooking today. I hope this week will be the one where I am successful. Even if I can make it through one day, I'll be happy and count that as a success. At this point that's all I can count on.
          F|26yr|5'3"
          1st Start: 8.25.12
          SW: 151 CW: 147 GW: -150
          HW: 195

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          • What great strides you're making! Batch cooking can be a lot of fun, and a little tiring too. For me, the satisfaction of having some delicious home-cooked meals always ready to go makes it worthwhile.

            One of the things that got me excited about being in the kitchen was having clean surfaces to work on. At one point in time, primarily due to depression I think, I'd become a lousy homemaker. Check out the Flylady for some great ideas. Once I got on the right track, everything else eventually fell into place and everything looks great now, but it did take awhile. When I cook now, I start off with a sink full of hot sudsy water. Every time I need to wash my hands or rinse something off, I wash an implement or two. This way there is no big pile at the end. Give it a try sometime to see if it works for you.

            I do hear you about the frustrations of IBS and feeling deprived. At one point I got used to it and never thought it would go away. Now that I'm fully Primal, my symptoms are gone. Instead of feeling deprived because cookies/cake/processed foods don't agree with my digestive system, I'm focusing on what I can eat - and it's a lot!

            Hope this is a better week for you!

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            • Grr, same struggles here. Nowhere to put things down, counter always dirty. Once a week I get really mad and clean ALL the things, then I cook once and it's all over, lol. It's my own fault, I just don't clean as I go. When I do, things are great. Having to deal with family mess is a whole different story...

              I had an IBS flare-up this year, after three years of Paleo, so it's no cure-all. I think oranges were the trigger. I ate too many of them!

              Thankfully, chicken livers take no work. Just heat the pan with your fat, and open the container and plop them right on on medium low for about ten minutes. Best to leave them a little raw in the middle.
              Crohn's, doing SCD

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              • Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                Grr, same struggles here. Nowhere to put things down, counter always dirty. Once a week I get really mad and clean ALL the things, then I cook once and it's all over, lol. It's my own fault, I just don't clean as I go. When I do, things are great. Having to deal with family mess is a whole different story...

                I had an IBS flare-up this year, after three years of Paleo, so it's no cure-all. I think oranges were the trigger. I ate too many of them!

                Thankfully, chicken livers take no work. Just heat the pan with your fat, and open the container and plop them right on on medium low for about ten minutes. Best to leave them a little raw in the middle.
                I know Paleo isn't a cure all. (Been told enough times by doctors.) Besides, the oranges don't sound like a trigger. Just sounds like a lot of oranges. Depending on the size, I couldn't eat more than 1.

                I honestly am not going to leave the livers raw in the middle. It's not my preference, taste-wise either. Because I have IBS, I don't want to take chances of getting food poisoning. I realize that cooking it through probably takes all the nutritious qualities out but the livers I used were CAFO and not nice and pasteurized. In fact most of the food I'm eating is whatever I can afford (so no organic or special stuff right now.)

                Good news is I didn't cheat yesterday.
                F|26yr|5'3"
                1st Start: 8.25.12
                SW: 151 CW: 147 GW: -150
                HW: 195

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                • Not digging the livers. I kind of like it but something about it still puts me off. I hate to say it but my livers end up smelling like dog food. I ate some for dinner tonight but I couldn't finish the last few bites (unless it had made me full.) I don't know if I'll try again but the main reason I got them was to find a cheaper protein.
                  F|26yr|5'3"
                  1st Start: 8.25.12
                  SW: 151 CW: 147 GW: -150
                  HW: 195

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                    • Thanks for the link.
                      F|26yr|5'3"
                      1st Start: 8.25.12
                      SW: 151 CW: 147 GW: -150
                      HW: 195

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                      • I inadvertently realized that I probably don't have much weight to lose.
                        At this point I don't know how low I can weigh and maintain it in a healthy way.

                        As far as long term maintenance, I want to stay below my HS weight (151lbs.)
                        If I were to pick a realistic goal weight, I'd say 145lbs perhaps.

                        People seem to think because of my height I need to be weighing even less than that but it's simply not going to happen. My body frame/bone structure will not allow it. At least I don't feel that way. I'd probably be borderline anorexic if I were to get down to 135. It would be nice to be around 139 I admit. But we'll see. Anyway it's nice to know that I probably don't have very far to go in terms of weight loss. I just need to work on toning up. I carry a lot of fat in my thighs but generally it's all spread out and you can't exactly tell that I've gained because it's all over.

                        I haven't been working out so this is just to kind of motivate me to do so. I plan on doing the Nerd Fitness Body Weight workout to start since it's not complicated. Thought about getting back into doing yoga in order to loosen me up but meh...
                        F|26yr|5'3"
                        1st Start: 8.25.12
                        SW: 151 CW: 147 GW: -150
                        HW: 195

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                        • Tried making bone broth the other day, using the recipe from Practical Paleo.

                          I'm not too confident with how it turned out. It smelled pretty good while it was cooking but once I tasted it it was very weak and not like broth at all. More like beef water and the color wasn't nearly as golden when compared to the picture in the book.

                          I didn't let it sit for 24 hrs and instead just for 8hrs (which was an option in the book) I used..I guess knuckle bones.

                          Anyone have any pointers...? Did I do something wrong?
                          F|26yr|5'3"
                          1st Start: 8.25.12
                          SW: 151 CW: 147 GW: -150
                          HW: 195

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                          • Well I haven't been here in quite a while...then again I don't see much point. But whatever. I need a place to rant, even if no one cares.

                            Ironically, at this time last year, I was paleo (or should I say grain-free, sugar-free?) Unfortunately I am not Paleo now. I haven't been all year. I believe going Paleo last year, due to lack of sufficient vitamins and calories as well as stress, caused me to lose my hair (it thinned.)

                            Yesterday was my second attempt making bone broth. This time I roasted them for around 45 min (I did not roast them the first time). This time instead of 8hrs I let it sit over night for 12 hrs. Still weak, still tastes like beef water, still not rich in flavor or color.

                            I'm not sure what I did wrong, I suspect I wasn't using enough bones and maybe I could put in vegetables for added kick. But anyway, I've been desperate to try it because my digestion is still compromised. Not surprisingly I'm not paleo right now. Trying to get there was too stressful and confusing and wasn't doable fund wise.

                            Feels like I can't eat anything now without pain.
                            F|26yr|5'3"
                            1st Start: 8.25.12
                            SW: 151 CW: 147 GW: -150
                            HW: 195

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