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  • I think the other thing with the metal monster? It's instant data. The tape measure, on the other hand, moves fairly slowly. And, sometimes you are losing fat in the oddest places. The other day, I thought, holy cow, I have thin forearms. Okay, I don't really care if I lose anything there - at least night right now Now, the stomach area? Yeah, let's drop something there so my pants FIT.
    -- Ruth

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    • Funny cause i noticed as i grabbed for something this morning my hand and wrist looked slim and graceful. But yes i would rather have been able to make that observation about my waist or butt.
      Chris
      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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      My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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      • 162.6. Big bump up. Probably some carb water from Saturday. Yeah. Also, had caffeine yesterday, which is unusual for me. And, I'm a little bit sore from walking 2 days (sad, I know. I blame the cold).

        Massive headache today. Poor sleep. The thermostat looks like it got a short and the heat kept coming on all night. The dogs were restless. DH had to get up early, which means I had to get him up early.

        To is an "up" down. Part of my brain says I should not eat much because I'm up on the scale. But, I said I'd give this cycling thing at least 1 week and so I shall. I did not help the experiment by eating all of those cashews
        -- Ruth

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        • I actually lost on the morning after my up day. Of course yesterday I took it way too far up so gained this morning.

          Did you read Dr. Ede's blog this morning? It appears she sleeps better with a bit more carbs in her system. For me it is the opposite. On average I am sleeping better on the very low carbs.
          Chris
          "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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          My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

          My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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          • I scanned it. I like her writing style and the things she notes and tracks.

            I do not sleep better with more carbs. The gain makes complete sense, so I can't complain (too much). Obviously, I'd just as assume that things didn't go up like crazy, but it's life. I would so like to be back in the 150s...
            -- Ruth

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            • It is just a data point. I am pretty sure you don't look much different at 161 than at 159.
              Chris
              "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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              My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

              My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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              • Wow Dr' Ede sounds like me. The interesting thing I am discovering is that I am able to get right back on the wagon after a binge rather than bingeing for several days. I think getting my macros right and keeping calories up is helping me heal.
                Primal since 9/24/2010
                "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                • Paula, that is AWESOME. I love to hear that. [Not that you binge, but that it is becoming easier to get over them and that they are getting shorter]

                  I think I'm bringing a bit of bloat with me. At 158/159 my size 12s were fitting nicely. At 161/162, they are snug. But as you say, it's a data point. I'm still trying to figure this body out. I'm more focused this week on calorie cycling and staying mainly with the animal products. I want to (assuming I don't have a HUGE gain) do this for 2 weeks before I make any changes. We shall see...

                  Also compounding things - TOM should arrive sometime this week, probably tomorrow or Wednesday. So, that also contributes a bit, both in terms of the bloat and the sleeping difficulties. It also means a lot of bathroom time today.
                  -- Ruth

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                  • 162.4. Data point..... TOM arrived last night. Another good month - just mild cramping. Woke up again at 3 am. Sigh. This is a hard habit to break. Sleep, not bad until the 3 am wake up. Trouble sleeping after that, partly because my brain was racing and partly because of mild cramps.

                    Yesterday's up day went okay. The eating was obviously more, but it was not an uncontrolled, frenzied, feeding. I was worried, because even last week when I "fasted" for 7 hours, I lost control once I started eating. I did not have a good plan, which made it a bit difficult. Probably too much pork/chicken, which are not my body's preferred meat. But, all in all, good. Today is a low day. I have plans for it, which should make it easier.

                    The Fed return came. That means we will pay off the house this Friday. It's all I can think about. It's probably why the scale number is not having an impact on me Now if the NM guys would stop holding up our return
                    -- Ruth

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                    • whoohooo on the house!

                      We need to be chatting at 3am! LOL I swear!

                      As for dehydrating.. I am using fresh pineapple. It tastes AMAZING. SO different than the store bought dehydrated pineapple. Its a party in the mouth. As for grapes, they make incredible raisins. I just wash them off and pop them in as is. They would probably dehydrate faster sliced but they are great and worth the wait whole. Lily is happy with stuff made in the dehydrator. She eats less candy which calorie for calorie is not much different but I think the dehydrated stuff is more healthy and she can afford calories.
                      Karin


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                      What am I doing? Depends on the day.

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                      • Amen. I did almost text you

                        On the grapes - how long do those take? Have you done strawberries? I'm thinking that I might thaw some of the frozen ones I have and then slice them and dehydrate for DH. Of course, he has braces (only a few more months though - hooray) and sometimes anything chewy is really hard for him.
                        -- Ruth

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                        • the grapes take a couple days depending on how large they are. I have not done strawberries yet. Its on my ta-do for the summer or maybe this spring.
                          Karin


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                          • In the book by Johnson, he says that the fourth 'down' day is usually a break-through day for most people in how they are feeling. But by the tests, the three week point(so, ten 'down' days) are when the best improvement in the numbers they were tracking(blood sugar, some stress hormone, inflammation markers, blah-blah-blah) hit.

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                            • I wake up at 3 am most nights too, but fall right back to sleep.

                              Interesting about the JUDD.

                              I tried strawberries, they got hard, it was weird. They were frozen ones that I thawed and patted dry, but put in whole.

                              Now I use the frozen ones to make smoothies for DS.
                              Chris
                              "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                              Unknown

                              My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                              My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                              • I saw this online. Interesting. I think it matches me pretty well (although I think the fat/protein/carbs are still based on a lot of "CW"). I am a "fast oxidizer".

                                Oxidizer Test From Jillian Michaels

                                In the morning, you
                                A. Don’t eat breakfast
                                B. Have something light like fruit, toast, or cereal
                                C. Have something heavy like eggs, bacon or steak, and has browns

                                At a buffet, the foods you choose are
                                A. Light meats like fish and chicken, vegetables and salad, a sampling of different desserts.
                                B. A mixture of A and C
                                C. Heavy, fatty foods like steak, ribs, pork chops, cheeses, and cream sauces

                                Your appetite at lunch is
                                A. Low
                                B. Normal
                                C. Strong

                                Your appetite at dinner is
                                A. low
                                B. normal
                                C. strong

                                Caffeine makes you feel
                                A. Great-it helps you focus
                                B. Neutral-you can take it or leave it
                                C. Jittery or nauseous

                                The types of foods you crave are (sugar is not listed because everyone craves sugar when they are tired or run-down)
                                A. Fruits, bread, and crackers
                                B. Both A and C
                                C. Salty foods, cheeses, and meats

                                For dinner you prefer
                                A. Chicken or fish, salad, and rice
                                B. No preference-choice varies daily
                                C. Heavier, fatty foods like pastas, steak and potatoes

                                After dinner you
                                A. Need to have something sweet
                                B. Could take dessert or leave it
                                C. Don’t care for sweets and would rather have something salty like popcorn

                                The types of sweets you like are
                                A. Sugary candies
                                B. No preference
                                C. Ice cream or cheesecake

                                Eating fatty foods like meat and cheese before bed
                                A. Interferes with your sleep
                                B. Doesn’t bother you
                                C. Improves your sleep

                                Eating carbs like breads and crackers before your bed
                                A. Interferes with your sleep, but they’re better than heavier foods
                                B. Doesn’t affect you
                                C. Is better than nothing, but you sleep better with heavier foods

                                Eating sweets before bed
                                A. Doesn’t keep you from sleeping at all
                                B. Sometimes makes you feel restless in bed
                                C. Keeps you up all night

                                Each day, you eat
                                A. Two or three meals with no snacks
                                B. Three meals with maybe one light snack
                                C. Three meals and a lot of snacks

                                Your attitude toward food is
                                A. You often forget to eat
                                B. You enjoy food and rarely miss a meal
                                C. You love food and it’s a central part of your life

                                When you skip meals, you feel
                                A. Fine
                                B. You don’t function at your best, but it doesn’t really bother you
                                C. Shaky, irritable, week and tired

                                Your attitude toward fatty foods is
                                A. You don’t like them
                                B. You like them occasionally
                                C. You crave them regularly

                                When you eat fruit salad for breakfast or lunch, you feel
                                A. Satisfied
                                B. Okay, but you usually need a snack in between meals
                                C. Unsatisfied and still hungry

                                What kind of food drains your energy?
                                A. Fatty foods
                                B. No food affects you this way
                                C. Fruit, candy, or confections, which give you a quick boost, then an energy crash

                                Your food portions are
                                A. Small-less than average
                                B. Average-not more or less than other people
                                C. Large-usually more than most people

                                How do you feel about potatoes?
                                A. You don’t care for them
                                B. You could take them or leave them
                                C. You love them

                                Red meat makes you feel
                                A. Tired
                                B. No particular feeling one way or the other
                                C. Strong

                                A salad for lunch makes you feel
                                A. Energized and healthy
                                B. Fine, but it isn’t the best type of food for you.
                                C. Sleepy

                                How do you feel about salt?
                                A. Foods often taste too salty
                                B. You don’t notice one way or the other
                                C. You crave salt and salt your food regularly

                                How do you feel about snacks?
                                A. You don’t really snack, but you like something sweet if you do.
                                B. You can snack on anything
                                C. You need snacks but prefer meats, cheese, eggs, or nuts.

                                How do you feel about sour foods like pickles, lemon juice, or vinegar?
                                A. You don’t like them
                                B. They don’t bother you one way or the other
                                C. You like them

                                How do you feel about sweets?
                                A. Sweets alone can satisfy your appetite
                                B. They don’t bother you but don’t totally satisfy you
                                C. You don’t feel satisfied and often crave more sweets

                                When you just eat meat (bacon, sausage, ham ) for breakfast, you feel
                                A. Sleepy, lethargic, or irritable
                                B. It varies day to day
                                C. Full until lunch

                                When you eat heavy or fatty foods, you feel
                                A. Irritable
                                B. Neutral-they don’t affect you
                                C. Satisfied

                                When you feel anxious
                                A. Fruits or vegetables calm you down
                                B. Eating anything calms you down
                                C. Fatty foods calm you down

                                You concentrate best when you eat
                                A. Fruits and grains
                                B. Nothing in particular
                                C. Meat and fatty food

                                You feel more depressed when you eat
                                A. Fatty or heavy foods
                                B. Nothing in particular
                                C. Fruits, breads, or sweets

                                You notice you gain weight when you eat
                                A. Fatty foods
                                B. No particular food. You gain weight when you overeat
                                C. Fruits or carbs

                                What type of insomnia, if any, applies to you?
                                A. You rarely get insomnia from hunger
                                B. You rarely get insomnia, but if you do, you often need to eat something in order to fall back asleep
                                C. You often wake up during the night and need to eat. If you eat right before bed, it alleviates the insomnia

                                Your personality type is
                                A. Aloof, withdrawn, or introverted
                                B. Neither introverted nor extroverted
                                C. Extroverted

                                Your mental and physical stamina are better when you eat
                                A. Light proteins like egg whites, chicken or fish and fruits
                                B. Any wholesome food
                                C. Fatty foods

                                Your climate preference is
                                A. Warm or hot weather
                                B. Doesn’t matter
                                C. Cold weather

                                You have problems with coughing or chest pressure.
                                If yes, “C”: if no, move on to the next question
                                You have a tendency to get cracked skin or dandruff
                                If yes, “C”:if no, move on to the next question
                                You have a tendency to get light-headed or dizzy
                                If yes, “C”: if no, move on to the next question

                                You eyes tend to be
                                A. Dry
                                B. Fine
                                C. Teary

                                Your facial coloring is
                                A. Noticeably pale
                                B. Average
                                C. Pink or often flushed

                                Your fingernails are
                                A. Thick
                                B. Average
                                C. Thin

                                Your gag reflex is
                                A. Insensitive
                                B. Normal
                                C. Sensitive

                                You get goose bumps
                                A. Often
                                B. Occasionally
                                C. Very rarely

                                You are prone to
                                A. Constipation
                                B. No stomach problems
                                C. Diarrhea

                                When insects bite you, your reaction is
                                A. Mild
                                B. Average
                                C. Strong

                                Your body type is
                                A. Short and Stocky
                                B. Average
                                C. Tall and thin

                                Your nose is
                                A. Dry
                                B. Normal
                                C. Runny

                                Scoring your metabolic typing test

                                When you have finished the test, add up the number of A, B and C answers you have circled A____B____C____

                                If your number of C answers is 5 or more higher than your number of A or B answers, you are a fast oxidizer.

                                *If your number of A answers is 5 or more higher than your number of B or C answers, you are a slow oxidizer.

                                *If your number of B answers is 5 or more higher than your number of A or C answers, or if neither A, B, nor C’s are 5 or more higher than the other two, you are a balanced oxidizer.

                                If you are still not certain, you can try these two other drastic tests.

                                1. Niacin test: Take 50 milligrams of niacin on an empty stomach. If you experience and immediate flush, you are most likely a fast oxidizer. If you feel a moderate flushing effect, you are a balanced oxidizer. If you experience a significantly delayed flushing or nothing at all, you are a slow oxidizer.

                                2. Vitamin C test: Take 8 grams of vitamin C in equally divided doses over 8 hours. The fast oxidizer will respond by feeling acidic and uncomfortable, and may even experience other symptoms such as diarrhea, nausea or increased intestinal gas. A true balanced oxidizer may find that his or her stomach feels less acidic. A slow oxidizer will have no response at all.

                                *Fast oxidizers
                                You require foods with higher percentages of protein and fat than carbohydrates. Make sure there is protein in everything you eat including snacks. Your ideal macronutrient ratio is 20 percent carbs, 50 percent protein, 30 percent fat.

                                All proteins are not created equal. The ones that are best for you are high-purine proteins, which are commonly found in fattier meats. This is not to say that you should cut out chicken and fish, but you need the heavier proteins most because they help slow down your rate of oxidation. Choose from this list of proteins when deciding on a meal or snack.

                                High purinergan meats (pate, liver, etc.), herring, mussels, sardines, anchovies.

                                Moderate purine:beef, bacon, dark meat chicken, duck, lamb, spareribs, dark meat turkey, veal, wild game, salmon, shellfish (lobster, shrimp, crab), oysters, scallops, octopus, squid, dark tuna

                                Low Purine:cottage cheese, milk, yogurt, eggs, cheese, white meat chicken, turkey, fish

                                The best veggies for protein types are asparagus, cauliflower, celery, mushrooms and spinach.
                                The best fruits are avocado, olives, apples and pears(in limited quantity and never without protein on the side or better yet first)
                                It is best to avoid grains altogether, but the best grains would be sprouted grain bread.
                                The best legumes would be tempeh and tofu.

                                The best nuts are (in order of protein content) walnuts, pumpkin seeds, peanuts, sunflower seeds, sesame seeds, almonds, cashews, brazil nuts, filberts, pecans, chestnuts, pistachios, coconut and macadamias.

                                Good fats are butter, cream, almond oil, peanut oil, coconut oil, sesame oil, flaxseed oil, sunflower oil and walnut oil.

                                *Slow oxidizers
                                Your ideal macronutrient ratio is 60 percent carbs, 25 percent protein and 15 percent fat.

                                *Balanced oxidizers
                                Your ideal macronutrient ratio is 40 percent carbs, 30 percent protein, and 30 percent fat.
                                -- Ruth

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