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  • I love celery but its not loving me right now.. I feel for you.
    Karin


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    • not sure what I would do without my veggies. Of course I lived without them for years and was thinner and energetic, also much younger, so who knows? Think it is the fiber? It can't just be about the carbs right? Wonder what they have in common, the ones that really bother you?
      Chris
      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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      • Originally posted by athomeontherange View Post
        I love celery but its not loving me right now.. I feel for you.
        This explains why I feel so crummy. Been snacking on celery all day.
        Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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        • Earlier this week, I posted the following link in Paula's journal. Hormones, Homeostasis, and Why You (Probably) Need Carbs :: stumptuous.com Truth of the matter, it was pretty much aimed at me. As I was reading, I kept thinking, "did you write this for me??????????"

          Aside from some obvious things, I think the article helped explain why things went really wrong after I was sick (cold from the underworld -- 4-6 weeks of sick). I was:
          * Extremely sick (for me).
          * Lots of inflammation.
          * Couldn't sleep.
          * Was barely eating -- and pretty much only meat (NOTHING else looked, smelled, or tasted even removed remotely good).
          So, I think I was very nutrient deficient, sleep deprived, and as the article makes loose mention of, I think my digestion system slowed (or almost shut) down. Bingo. I suspect this very much explains why carbs have been so problematic (which, for me, tend to be about 90% from veggies [ignoring my recent foray into potato and rice]).

          I think that means I am having to work through several things.
          1. Digestion slowed down. My carbs -- mostly veggies -- have tended to be the higher fiber carbs or the "gassy" kind. I go to eat those, and my poor stomach hurts (would have helped had I tried a more gradual approach!).
          2. I've been VLC since January. Add that to slowed digestion and reintroducing carbs is naturally going to lead to water gain (and, probably some re-adaptation). Yeah, okay, I wasn't expecting a 10 pound water/gain/adaptation, but hey, it is what it is.
          3. Stress/lack of sleep. Sleep is better, but not great. And, sick puppy has meant several nights of very poor sleep.
          4. Poor nutrition. Veggies are still not tolerated well, but getting better. I haven't been able to find my pate (the only one I can find without dairy) for several weeks. I'm out of bone broth. I still haven't mastered eating other offal. Can you say [likely] nutrition deficiency?
          5. Low grade inflammation. Although I'm not generally have stomach cramps, I still have some digestive issues. Last night, I noticed that my stomach has a slight burn to it on the days I'm introducing carbs. Better than the cramps, but still not great.

          Now that [I think] I have some reasons, the question is, where do I go from here? Not entirely sure, but am feeling better about things (I'm sure it helps that I got good sleep last night!).
          -- Ruth

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          • I would aim to get yourself to 15-25g of carb per meal/snack.

            I eat one High Glycemic fruit per day and one serving of berries if I want more fruit. Plus I have white rice or a sweet potato. It all works out between 75-100g carbs. I eat 2 servings of veg per day as well.
            Primal since 9/24/2010
            "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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            • I think the article spoke to all of us.. it was a real kick in the pants.

              It makes sense that being ill and not being hungry for anything but meat would cause you to be nutrient deficient. Glad to hear your sleep is better though. I agree with Chris, if you can get the sleep in order, that is half the battle.

              We have seen 10 pound water gains before.. they suck but your right it is what it is. The good thing is we know that its just water and not fat.

              As for Pate.. I posted a non-dairy pate recipe that is THE BOMB!! on the recipes.

              As to where you are going from here.. can you reintroduce some non-gassy veggies and see how well those are tolerated? Reintroduce one at a time for a few days to see if they will be a problem?
              Karin


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              • How stressed are you? I'm apparently not too bad The Holmes and Rahe Stress Scale - Stress Management from MindTools.com
                -- Ruth

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                • I am a 119.. so according to THEIR scale.. I am at low risk..lol
                  Karin


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                  • Thanks for all the thoughts, ladies

                    The great (primal) carb re-introduction continues. Yesterday, I overdid it. But, it was fun and enjoyable. The scale moved up 3.6 lb this morning, but I can tell the pipes are a bit clogged (TMI, sorry) and there was a lot of sampling of different things yesterday. But, the weight still within the new (high) range, so interestingly enough, I'm okay with it (the previous 2 days had been some nice downward wooshes).

                    **********
                    In other news... Over a year ago, we adopted a second dog from the animal rescue. They told us he was a springer spaniel/lab mix. Yeah. Not. Had a dog trainer over on Thursday. She (and others) said he is definitely a border collie, with springer spaniel. There may be lab, but that's not really apparent. The big deal? What a collie needs is a lot more activity than what a lab-type dog needs, among other things. Anyway, the breed determination explain A LOT about my little guy (activity needs aside). She also helped us work out a training plan for his terrible leash pulling. Now we'll be working on that. My goofball is easily amused (lizards, leafs, shadows, people, cars, bunnies, did I mention leaves and shadows?). We figured out last night that a laser pointer will wear him out Yeah. Will make the training drills much easier.

                    She also concluded that my golden, with some training, would be a good therapy dog (e.g., go to nursing homes, hospitals, etc.). We will begin focusing on her training as well.
                    ***************

                    Not sure what I have planned for today. Some work. Have to write some testimony, yuck. A run to the grocery store. Training the dog.

                    Hope you all have a wonderful day!!!
                    -- Ruth

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                    • Originally posted by RMS123 View Post

                      She also concluded that my golden, with some training, would be a good therapy dog (e.g., go to nursing homes, hospitals, etc.). We will begin focusing on her training as well.
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                      You know how there will come a time when you want to quit what you are doing... this sounds like another option opening up. It takes some time to train the dog but maybe by the time the training is done, this would be a job you would like to do.
                      Karin


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                      • Whoa! I am a 311 on their scale. That freaks me out.

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                        • Wow I'm with Karin! There is a huge demand for dogs who are trained in that manner! That could be an interesting move for you.
                          Chris
                          "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                          My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                          My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                          • Yesterday was a good day. I did not work, which is good mentally, but will make for a challenging week. Oh, well DH is off to a business trip for a few days, so mom, myself, and the animals will hang out together for the next 3 days.

                            Deflated a bit from yesterday's BIG gain. Still more to go, but whatever, it will happen. Would be nice to take care of 1/2 of this gain before I go on vacation, but probably won't happen. Hopefully I can manage the vacation gain...lots of walking perhaps? And, of course, I hope to meet up with Paula

                            Alrighty, had better see how you are all doing and then get to work. Lots to do today and I'm tired.
                            -- Ruth

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                            • Ruth, I know I tend to advocate for whatever "plan" I am currently on, so here I go again! But I do seem to remember that you didn't have any problems with doing a fast/very low calorie day. What if you did a few scattered fasts (days where your intake is less than about 500 calories) and do what you are working on right now for the other days. Basically just put off eating calories during the day and then have dinner with DH and mom. Not an ADF, or a 4:3 or even a 5:2, just pick a day when you think you could easily do it and go for it. And if you don't make it, what the heck, forget about it and try it on another day.
                              Chris
                              "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                              My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                              My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                              • ^ Chris. Me Too! Lol

                                Ruth. I accidentally deleted the text with your vaca dates. When are you in NYC and what part of the city? PM me again if you can.
                                Primal since 9/24/2010
                                "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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