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  • a cave troll is yelling don’t publish it online no one takes eBooks seriously only failures resort to this keep waiting for a real publisher what is WRONG with you?
    Shut up, troll. Do you know how much effing money I've spent on exercise-program ebooks?!?

    I can't WAIT to read your book!!

    The Panda Clan sees the Plane of Pain making its final descent and lay themselves out on the runway to be squashed.
    P.S. there is a phenomenon known as Learned Helplessness. In the original experiment (ok, this sounds really mean) they put dogs in a chamber where they would get small electric shocks from the floor. Of course the dogs would immediately hop the barrier to get on the non-electric side. However, if the dogs weren't given an escape, they just gave up. They would lie despondently on the floor and get shocked even more. And to top it all off, when they were given an escape route or tempted with treats, they STILL wouldn't escape. I think this happens to humans more than we realize. Plus, as humans we are also able to justify our inaction in our "logical" brains.
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    • Originally posted by Sigi View Post
      Too many painful little parallels with my own childhood for me to make a clearheaded or consoling reply ...

      :::just gently squeezes Panda paw in Sigi paw:::
      Thank you, Sigi. I was very lucky in high school to be 'adopted' by a wonderful teacher, who carried me through it for three years when my family really began to split at the seams. She let me bitch and cry and be angry and kept Young Gay Panda sane. What a jewel of a woman that teacher was!
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        • [/Quote] P.S. there is a phenomenon known as Learned Helplessness. In the original experiment (ok, this sounds really mean) they put dogs in a chamber where they would get small electric shocks from the floor. Of course the dogs would immediately hop the barrier to get on the non-electric side. However, if the dogs weren't given an escape, they just gave up. They would lie despondently on the floor and get shocked even more. And to top it all off, when they were given an escape route or tempted with treats, they STILL wouldn't escape. I think this happens to humans more than we realize. Plus, as humans we are also able to justify our inaction in our "logical" brains.[/QUOTE]

          I think this is a big reason why depression is so hard to treat. Particularly if you've had it for a long time. I mean, when you know that nothing can fix it, then what's the point of trying . . . one . . . more . . . time. Even if this time really will fix it.

          *Happy Dance for the Panda Book!* You know- once everyone on MDA purchases a copy of the self-published book, it might be enough proof that the genre exists/has a place for the publishing houses to make you an offer. Of course- that would be the time to turn up your nose at their inability to see your brilliance the first time if was offered Hey, mind if I tiptoe in your wake down the possibility of self-publishing? I have a legit reason for not having looked into it- I haven't finished my book yet- but it's looking like that'll be the logical way for me to go. I'll even promise to sweep away the swine flu, scare off the wolves, and woo the vampires to keep you safe
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          • tell your cave troll that times are a-changin and ebooks are not the 'wasteland of talentless hacks' that people once assumed them to be. nooks and kindles made the waves, time to get your boogie board and ride em
            beautiful
            yeah you are

            Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
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            • Originally posted by ottercat View Post
              P.S. there is a phenomenon known as Learned Helplessness. In the original experiment (ok, this sounds really mean) they put dogs in a chamber where they would get small electric shocks from the floor. Of course the dogs would immediately hop the barrier to get on the non-electric side. However, if the dogs weren't given an escape, they just gave up. They would lie despondently on the floor and get shocked even more. And to top it all off, when they were given an escape route or tempted with treats, they STILL wouldn't escape. I think this happens to humans more than we realize. Plus, as humans we are also able to justify our inaction in our "logical" brains.
              I remember reading about those when I was in college! Creepy.

              I'm sure it was learned helplessness with one of the Panda Parents, because being married to a very critical partner is hard. You're damned one way and damned the other, so you end up doing nothing because every way is wrong. And if you're too frightened to leave that maze and face the unknown, which that parent was, then it drags on in an infinite but familiar misery. I might have been able to tolerate that for many years with my career, but I found that I never could in relationships. That ended my first one when I thought one day that I would rather be single than look at this horrid person for ONE MORE MINUTE.
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              • *GASP* I'm finally finished reading ALL the previous posts! Aaaaaand I'm a Scorpio! Yay!

                P.S. I'll buy your book Gay Panda. This thread is AWESOME.

                P.P.S. This is my first post ever. :-)

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                • Consider another copy sold, Gay Panda - congratulations on the publication, from another aspiring genre fiction writer.

                  Also I read your entire thread. Oops.

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                  • I'll buy your book too!
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                    • Originally posted by drssgchic View Post
                      Hey, mind if I tiptoe in your wake down the possibility of self-publishing? I have a legit reason for not having looked into it- I haven't finished my book yet- but it's looking like that'll be the logical way for me to go. I'll even promise to sweep away the swine flu, scare off the wolves, and woo the vampires to keep you safe
                      Oh, you know how to charm me, drssgchic. I'll see how the process goes with this particular company and cover artist (so far so good) and if I'm happy with how it went then I'll recommend them when your book is done.
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                      • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                        tell your cave troll that times are a-changin and ebooks are not the 'wasteland of talentless hacks' that people once assumed them to be. nooks and kindles made the waves, time to get your boogie board and ride em
                        It's time for me to actually buy one of these contraptions and learn how they work. I should have checked out my friend's Kindle when I was at her house at New Year's, but instead I improved my eye-hand coordination with massive quantities of tequila and squashed everyone in Mario Kart.
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                        • Hi wendolpho! Hi girlviking! You guys crack me up reading 123 pages of Pure Panda Natter.
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                          • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                            tell your cave troll that times are a-changin and ebooks are not the 'wasteland of talentless hacks' that people once assumed them to be. nooks and kindles made the waves, time to get your boogie board and ride em
                            Yeah, this!

                            Well done Panda for pushing past the terror and wriggling out of the unhappy comfort zone. The more you challenge yourself to change, even in small ways, the teeny bit less daunting it will be each time.

                            And I am so buying your e-book! I have friends whom I believe would like the sound of it too, and will happily spread the word.
                            I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.

                            Oscar Wilde

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                            • E-Books are the way to go now. I am a voracious reader and I have shelves and shelves and shelves of books. Since I got my tablet and the Kindle app, I haven't purchased a physical book at all. Instead I've purchased 85 E-Books since October. Everyone on the boards I frequent, on Facebook and in my real life has either a Kindle, a Nook or a tablet/smartphone with one of the apps on it.

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                              • Ok Gay Panda, we have decided...........so there is one less thing you need to do. We gladly take the Gay Panda Future into our hands, and make those decisions on your behalf! Cuz, well....that's just how we roll around here! E Book it is! Start planning your formal wear for the Ebook Awards....shall you wear all black, or a spash of color? Just no wardrobe malfunctions please....we will all be watching and waiting to give you your standing ovation after your speech!
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                                15 pounds down! with more to go!

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