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  • My N=1 experiment. 1. Cut way back on dairy, grains, and sugar 2. take a flavorless shot of calories in the form of MCT or Extra Light Olive oil chased by a tsp of xylitol in a liter of water in the middle of a 2 hour flavorless time span twice a day 3. take a 1 hour nap or listen to meditation

    Yesterday...So yesterday, I had what I would consider a near perfect eating day! I ate when I was hungry, I ate what I was hungry for, and I stopped before I was full. I did not go scurrying into the pantry when I was in the middle of cleaning (my usual tactic to avoid things I don't want to do). I did not crave sweets after I finished eating. I did not go back and eat frozen cake! It was not a perfect Primal day as I did eat a flatout wrap, and I had some Konjac noodles (no idea if they are primal, but doubt it), but I am ok with that for now.

    I also got a lot done. I finally hung the 2 lamps in the rec room (nothing like company coming to spur me to finish projects around the house). That was more of a PITA than I anticipated, as the directions were non-existent and they did not put the screws in the correct place so I had some undoing that took a serious amount of time and frustration. I also got the sheets on the spare bed and our bed washed and back on the beds, as well as cleaning the spare room. Got a ton of backed up laundry done. Remembered to order my new industrial laundry basket (so excited). And did general clean up.

    Sounds wonderful, right!

    Result 260.4, up .2

    My optimism is waning! I had my little hissy fit with the cake and then I literally jumped right back in line, and I gained, well basically stayed in the plateau. I am a bit sad and really confused, distraught, disheartened.

    STATS:
    Calories: 1403
    Carbs: 61
    Fat: 120
    Protein: 69
    Fiber: 24 Net Carbs: 37
    Sugar: 15

    My Golden Rules
    1. Eat only when physically hungry
    2. Eat only what I really want
    3. Eat slowly, mindfully, consciously
    4. Stop when I am no longer hungry
    5. shots of tasteless oil in the middle of 2 hour flavorless time window

    Sleep yesterday:
    overnight 4:59
    meditation :15 (the battery died)
    total 5:14

    Thankfulness: energy, yesterday I had some, enough to actually get a pretty decent amount of housework done and not send me to the pantry in an avoidance binge!
    Chris
    "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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    My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

    My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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    • If I were you, I'd stop weighing myself every day. Just do it every week or even every month and start taking measurements of your waist, legs and arms instead. Weight fluctuates a lot and can be demotivating. I, for example, tend to lose weight in a "revolutionary" way, not "evolutionary". I.e. I'll stay the same weight for a few weeks (but my waist line goes down bit by bit) even though I am eating well and getting enough sleep, and then BAM, all of a sudden 10lbs are off in a matter of days. Some bodies just work like that.
      From what I can read from your journal, weight is a secondary issue for you. First kick the cravings completely and go primal 100% for a while (yes, you can do it, if I, as the guy who used to eat everything in sight, can then you can), and only focus on the weight afterwards. It takes healing first as this is a game for the long run, not just a short crash diet.
      And yes, as said before, the sleep is a major issue I think, I really hope you can somehow resolve that as I am convinced you'll drop the pounds as soon as you get 8+ hours solid rest in a pitch black room. Good luck with it!

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      • Totally appreciate your input!

        On weighing everyday...I have done it all ways mentioned with mixed results. I have gone a week, a month, a quarter, a year, and not weighed. And for all but one of those experiments I gained. It is actually more stressful for me to not weigh as I feel like it is a piece of information that I can never retrieve. However, the moment the result of a weigh in sends me to the pantry, I will stop the daily weigh in. I realize that because of how I write in this journal, it may seem the number is very important to me, but by weighing every day the numbers become a jumble, I only know if I gained or lost after I check to see what it was yesterday. It is just another piece of info. I will try to measure sometime this weekend, I have not done it in a while. But if past experience and my clothes are any indicator there will not be a big change there either. And actually that is a part of the reason I don't measure more. If I do what feels like 'all this work' and the scale doesn't show change, then mentally I can still think the measurements are changing. But if the measurements aren't changing then that is depressing.

        I did go 100% Primal when I first started. Then about a month in I did a Leptin Reset. Neither one gave me an aha moment or even made me feel significantly better.

        I am definitely in it for my health but the weight is an integral part of being able to be healthy.

        My current energies are really focused on researching the sleep situation. Because, given what I eat, evolutionarily, my body should be able to adjust to the minor glitches in my diet. Especially lately, as I am getting better at eating cleaner again. I really think getting a good solid chunk of sleep, (according to my fitbit there is no more than 1.5 hours straight that I go without a wake up) even if it doesn't get to 8 hours will start the weight melting off, and improve my general health.

        Thanks again for your thoughtful response, I really appreciate it.
        Chris
        "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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        My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

        My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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        • p.s. Regarding the room quality...I have black out blinds on the windows, no glowing clocks,etc, a fan for white noise, keep the room cool, just added a memory foam and feather bed to our already comfy mattress to end up feeling like I am sleeping on a cloud (helpful for those stiff joint issues) and I listen to a meditation to fall asleep. I don't drink anything with caffeine after noon. Ensure that I finish eating 3 hours before I go to bed. In fact I have a very specific routine that I follow the last 15 minutes before I get into the bed. I rarely drink alcohol. And have a pretty low stress existence. I do have sleep apnea, but wear an oral device to prevent it (I have had night's of great sleep with it, so that is not the issue).


          I have never been a good sleeper, but in the past the issue was always insomnia. I have overcome that, but recently have developed this problem with staying asleep.
          Chris
          "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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          My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

          My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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          • A little late, but...yay, for a fun time with your honey!

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            • Yay, indeed, definitely improves the attitude (for both of us!)
              Chris
              "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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              My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

              My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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              • Originally posted by demuralist View Post

                Yesterday...So yesterday, I had what I would consider a near perfect eating day! I ate when I was hungry, I ate what I was hungry for, and I stopped before I was full. I did not go scurrying into the pantry when I was in the middle of cleaning (my usual tactic to avoid things I don't want to do). I did not crave sweets after I finished eating. I did not go back and eat frozen cake! It was not a perfect Primal day as I did eat a flatout wrap, and I had some Konjac noodles (no idea if they are primal, but doubt it), but I am ok with that for now.

                I also got a lot done. I finally hung the 2 lamps in the rec room (nothing like company coming to spur me to finish projects around the house). That was more of a PITA than I anticipated, as the directions were non-existent and they did not put the screws in the correct place so I had some undoing that took a serious amount of time and frustration. I also got the sheets on the spare bed and our bed washed and back on the beds, as well as cleaning the spare room. Got a ton of backed up laundry done. Remembered to order my new industrial laundry basket (so excited). And did general clean up.


                I had to laugh. I know the feeling about motivation in cleaning because company is coming. My stepmom will be here in a week. The carpets are almost done and I need to commit to some scrubbing of floors (what is it with me and floors???) as well as a deep clean in the bathroom and *sigh* Lily's room, again. I have been trying to get some crafting done between cleaning projects as a destressor (keeps me out of the food too).

                hmmm industrial laundry basket.... and your excited about it....hmmmm...I worry about you
                Karin


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                What am I doing? Depends on the day.

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                • hehehe, I spent over a year looking for the perfect laundry basket. I had the laundry room redone last year and when he put in the folding table he was nice enough to add an apron for support. Unfortunately that made my available height 29". Everything I liked was 30", and tall and thin. I wanted wide and squatty, with wheels, and 2 compartments, and canvas, very sturdy, oh and it had to look good too because that door stays open a lot because I go in there a lot and there is an HVAC vent in there.
                  Chris
                  "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                  Unknown

                  My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                  My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                  • My N=1 experiment. 1. Cut way back on dairy, grains, and sugar 2. take a flavorless shot of calories in the form of MCT or Extra Light Olive oil chased by a tsp of xylitol in a liter of water in the middle of a 2 hour flavorless time span twice a day 3. take a 1 hour nap or listen to meditation

                    Yesterday...I did pretty well. I did forget to take my afternoon shot of flavorless calories-got so busy cleaning the time just slipped away. The result of that is that I was looking for something to munch on while I was cooking dinner. Which is typical for me before I started the shots, but not since, so they are doing something. I did just have an ounce of Kerrygold Dubliner cheese and 7 walnuts, so I didn't go crazy or anything, but I was scavenging and had to talk myself out of eating, to basically wait for dinner.

                    I also got a lot done. I got the extension cords for the lamps and put bulbs in and they work! And I got DD's room clean, all the sheets washed and the upstairs vacuumed. Just have to do a final wipe down of the bathrooms and clorox the toilets and the upstairs is taken care of.

                    Sounds wonderful, right!

                    Result 261.4, up 1

                    My optimism is here, but I am really just confused! Wish my sleep issues would resolve so that I could determine if it is that or something else. I feel like my food is totally in line with weight loss and my good health. MyFitnessPal tells me everyday when I finish tracking that in 5 weeks I will be in the low 240's. It has been saying that for months.

                    STATS:
                    Calories: 1725
                    Carbs: 25-this seems really low, was not trying to do this.
                    Fat: 159
                    Protein: 91
                    Fiber: 8 Net Carbs: 15
                    Sugar: 7

                    My Golden Rules
                    1. Eat only when physically hungry
                    2. Eat only what I really want
                    3. Eat slowly, mindfully, consciously
                    4. Stop when I am no longer hungry
                    5. shots of tasteless oil in the middle of 2 hour flavorless time window

                    Sleep yesterday:
                    overnight 5:32
                    meditation :35 (the battery died)
                    total 6:07, yeah! over 6!

                    Thankfulness: my bad memory for numbers. I will forget within an hour or so that I gained a pound today and get on with life.
                    Chris
                    "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                    Unknown

                    My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                    My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                    • Parents are visiting, so I will not be around much, but will still try to keep up with the oil.
                      Chris
                      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                      My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                      • What are you noticing when taking the oil?
                        Karin


                        Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Calorie Counter

                        What am I doing? Depends on the day.

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                        • Have fun and stay lubricated!
                          Primal since 9/24/2010
                          "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

                          Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools
                          MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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                          • hehehehe, Paula, my mind is so in the gutter after this weeks activities, I can't look at your comment without a little grin on my face.

                            So the thing that happens with the oil, and I know this is weird, but it seems to change my brain. My attitude toward food feels different. I do not feel the need to eat between the meals, I am actually able to skip meals comfortably-not been able to do this with any other system I have tried. Yesterday for example, I was busy getting ready to go to the concert (we take a packed dinner) and didn't eat lunch. I was not picking at what I was making because my mom and my aunt were in the kitchen helping me and we were chatting and the recipes were ones I had already used so no need to taste along the way.

                            It doesn't make me feel full per se, but it does allow me to feel full sooner. It allows me to focus on something besides food for most of the day.

                            What I have not been successful with, so far, is to string along a reasonable number of days where I don't eat wheat and/or sugar.

                            Also, I am still not getting 6 hours of sleep. Not only that but I don't get 90 minutes straight during the night. Which has to have a negative effect on REM, which I propose is what is keeping me from losing weight. Because even though I do eat wheat or sugar every 3rd or 4th day, it is not an unreasonable amount of either, and I have more clean days than non.

                            Once all the summer company is gone and DS starts to school (August 1), it is my intention to get very serious about working on the totality. My oil shots, a clean diet, a reasonable movement plan, and getting enough quality sleep to make the efforts pay off.
                            Chris
                            "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                            My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                            My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                            • Glad I'm not the only one.

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                              • Ok, I just found my tape measure and figured I better take a measurement while I knew where it was....


                                SW(8/19/11): 267
                                neck: 14.5"
                                r. bicep:17"
                                r. forearm: 12"
                                Chest:48"
                                Waist: 40"
                                Hips: 51"
                                r. Thigh: 30"
                                r. calf: 17"

                                9/5/11: 266 down 1
                                Neck: 14 down .5
                                r.bicep: 15.75 down 1.25
                                r.forearm: 12 no change
                                Chest: 47.5 down .5
                                waist: 39.5 down .5
                                hips: 49 down 2 (!)
                                r. thigh: 29 down 1
                                r. calf: 17 no change
                                fat % from scale=54.4 (just figured out how to do this)

                                Total weight loss is 1 pound
                                inches lost since going primal is 5.74

                                10/1/11: 264.8 down 1.2
                                neck: 14 no change
                                r. bicep: 15.75 no change
                                r. forearm:11.5 down .5
                                Chest: 46.5 down 1" which I can confidently say is across the back and not in the cup! Jackets fit much better.
                                Waist:38 down 1.5
                                Hips: 48.5 down .5
                                r.thigh: 29 no change
                                r.calf:16.5 down .5

                                12/1/11 weight 260.8
                                r. bicep: 15.75
                                r.forearm: 11.5
                                chest:46
                                hips:48.5
                                r.thigh: 29
                                calf: 16.5

                                4/15/12 254.8
                                r. bicep-below shoulder muscle:15
                                r. forearm: 15
                                chest-with bra: 45.5
                                waist: 38
                                hips: 47.5
                                r. thigh-point where middle finger extends down thigh: 27
                                r. calf: 16.5
                                fat % from scale: 52.1

                                7/22/12 263.2
                                Neck: 14 down .5 from beginning
                                r. bicep below top muscle:16 up 1 inch from April, down 1 from beginning
                                r. forearm:12 up .5 inch, no change from start
                                Chest (with bra): 45 down .5 inch, down 3 from start
                                waist:41 up 3 inches, up 1 from start
                                hips:52 up 3.5 inches, up 1 from start
                                r. thigh (at finger tip):30 up 3 inches, no change from start
                                r. calf:17 up .5 inch, no change from start
                                fat %: didn't get on the scale.

                                It looks pretty obvious that somewhere between April and today something is not going well. I need to do the measurements monthly to catch what is going on.

                                I think the increase in the inches is due to the fact that I stopped my morning treadmill and thereby lowered my daily step count by nearly half. I believe the weight is a consequence of the sleep issues.

                                The good news is that last night, my second on melatonin, my sleep efficiency went up to 82%. I still didn't get a straight 90 minutes, but close. I have felt a little foggy upon waking both mornings so I am going to take it at dinner instead of so close to bed time. I am taking a 250mcg dose.

                                So despite my measurements, I am very optimistic today.

                                My plan is...
                                -to continue the melatonin and D3
                                -to continue the oil shots
                                -increase the movement
                                -pay close attention to my physical cues for hunger and satiety and FOLLOW UP on them
                                -track it all

                                Thankfullness: I am so very grateful for living in Nashville. Last night we went to the Bluebird on the Mountain Songwriter's concert. It was one of the best concerts I have ever been to. It was a wonderful night, the weather cooled off, the music was amazing, the company I was with was some of my favorite people (my husband, my parents, and my aunt and uncle). Amazing, all night I could not get over how blessed I felt to be there at that time with those people.
                                Last edited by demuralist; 07-23-2012, 04:59 AM. Reason: fix the math
                                Chris
                                "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                                My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                                My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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