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  • Karin - do you like olives? Fat, no carbs or protein. I also like that they are salty

    Chris - your mom gives me hope. I want to be able to maintain my loss for life!
    -- Ruth

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    • She visited us for Christmas 7 years ago. The photos compelled her to act. It took her 2 years to lose 75 lbs. and she has easily maintained for 5 years. She gets on the scale daily now, but says mostly she relies on her jeans to tell her when to get serious. But she also says, that maintenance has been really easy, that her body seems to have adjusted and she listens to it now. And she has had a heart valve replaced, and a mastectomy, obviously been through menopause, and spent the past year and a half nursing my dad who has had a variety of serious to slightly less serious ailments. So raging hormones and maximal stress. So it can be done!
      Chris
      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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      • There you go. It may take us all awhile to get there, but we'll get there and keep it off!
        -- Ruth

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        • Actually I don't really care how slow it goes as long as it goes. I have spent so much of the past watching the fat pile on, any amount off as long as it is steady would be a very welcome change. I really think (not to labor the point) that not getting on the scale is allowing me to not worry so much about the number. Pretty sure since I just started that I will wait till the beginning of March to weigh and measure.
          Chris
          "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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          My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

          My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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          • Chris, your mom's story is inspiring.

            Ruth- I LOVE olives! You are the right, the saltiness helps curb appetite too.

            Ok.. stepped on the scale this morning (I have not been on since before Christmas) and I am down 3-4 pounds. I have really been on the LCHF for not quite a week. I was curious and have not measured or weighed.

            Yesterday's stats:
            P-98g (a little high)
            c-36g (on target)
            f-90g (about 40g too low) GRRR
            cal-1371 (too low)

            Q: refresh my memory- what happens if I do not get all the fat in? I will not lose as fast?

            Off to another good start. This morning eggs in butter with a green chili and berries, lunch is mexican chicken, and tonight is homemade carnitas (I have it in the crock pot)! WHOOP!!!

            edit: on a side note.. I think I am going to have my doc change my antidepressant to something stronger. I am thinking about asking for wellibutrin. Although I feel physically fine with the EMF, something just feels "off".
            Last edited by athomeontherange; 01-07-2013, 09:36 AM.
            Karin


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            • I think (and mind you I am no expert on this!) that the thing is if your protein is too high then it is converted to sugar just like carbs (that's the theory anyway), thinking not enough fat just makes it less satisfying? I gotta read more of Dr. Attia's blog I think, he is very good at explaining things in great scientific detail.

              In the mean time I would be adding either butter to soup stock or cream (or the equivalent, I did post that non-dairy creamer recipe) to tea.

              p.s. sad that you are still feeling a little off. Is Wellbutrin a different kind of antidepressant? in other words does it work totally differently than the other one (prozac right?)
              Chris
              "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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              My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

              My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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              • + 1 Attia also talks about the fat being very important for getting you into and maintaining deep ketosis. Apparently there are different levels as measured by a blood monitor.
                Primal since 9/24/2010
                "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                • Wellibutrin is a different antidepressant. Between dealing with my dd and menopause I need something stronger.

                  protein converts to sugar/carbs?? crap! Okkkk extra butter and cream on the way. I have been using half and half but looks like I need to go back to hwc.. that might help the fat as well.

                  I am thinking I need to get a blood monitor. Interesting enough, my mom has been on this two days and took her blood sugar this morning first thing..it was 160. It was weird because she said she was not hungry last night and just had coffee with cream.
                  Karin


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                  • I just posted a note about some comments from Dr. Attia's blog and he was talking about how his morning fasting BS was higher when he was IFing than when he was eating 3 and in "normal ketosis" but that his post prandial was lower.

                    yep, I think that is the theory with the proteins. So I think keeping those under goal is probably more important than getting all the fat. But I am still reading.
                    Chris
                    "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                    My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                    My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                    • As I understand it, your first goal is to figure out the "optimal" protein and carb level - both convert to sugar and throw off your ketosis (or fat burning feelings). Interestingly, I'm feeling more sensitive to excess protein than I am, per se, carbs (maybe this is because I've not really gone all that high with carbs, but have blown the top off of protein).

                      Anyway, once you find those levels - and I think that takes a bit of time for some of us, especially if you have to deal with the low-carb flu, and because you have two variables - you adjust your fat up and down. Up if you're losing too fast (is that possible?) or down in small increments if you are feeling great, but not seeing any scale or inches lost movement.
                      -- Ruth

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                      • I agree, I am thinking I am more sensitive to the protein than to carbs as well.

                        I am thinking that my macros for today (assuming I don't change dinner) are spot on! It actually is looking like I don't really need much meat of any kind. odd
                        Chris
                        "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                        My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                        My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                        • I need a lot less protein than I thought I did to feel happy and satisfied. I have (had) PCOS, which is often associated with insulin resistance. I think it explains why more of a nutritional ketosis approach might really be working for my body.

                          The challenge is that I really only need 2-3 oz of meat, and depending on what kind (e.g., boneless skinless chicken breasts that are mostly only protein), at 1 or 2 meals. It's not difficult, except that DH needs a bit more protein than I do and so I'm trying to meet his needs and mine with meals.
                          -- Ruth

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                          • This is actually going to make my DH happy because he thinks a vegetarian life style is healthier. I have stopped making chicken breasts, the boys complain they are too dry, so I have switched to thighs (they are boneless and skinless, but are pasture raised) and they like those. They won't eat fish or pork, DS is a beef lover, DH not so much. It is looking like chicken once a week and beef maybe 2, and I will have to adjust the protein earlier in the day.
                            Chris
                            "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                            My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                            My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                            • Today my fat was too high, but protein and carbs were spot on. For some reason
                              MFP is miscalculating calories. When I multiply my total carbs and protein by 4 and fats by 9, I get a higher calorie count. What gives?
                              Primal since 9/24/2010
                              "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

                              Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools
                              MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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                              • I have the same problem. Not sure what the deal is...
                                -- Ruth

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