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  • ok I "thought" I was following what everyone was doing but as I read the above comments a big huh comes out. Low veggie I like (tough to get those suckers in). Can I get a summation of it?
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    • Originally posted by athomeontherange View Post
      Paula- that is such a sweet gesture but I think she will be fine for Christmas. The good news is I plan early (throughout the year actually). **hugs to you and your boys**

      So this is my check in..as I eat a hershey kiss (yup, I did). Still mega stressed out as well as exhausted. Have I ever mentioned my dislike for the holidays? Anywho..I have been researching this whole menopause thing.. everything I read is " your body shape will change, learn to love yourself and the changes blah flippin blah). Yeah, so it all says weight gain is inevitable. It also says that HRT does not keep the weight off or necessarily cause gain either so I am like, I ain't taking them. No flashing or night sweats but I get the occasional headache, muscle aches and sleep issues. Hormones wont help much there from what I read anyway. So while I am eating some sugar and grain, for the most part its meat. My veggie count is seriously low and I do not know whats worse. That or just not caring at this point. I have been on the run for the past few days. Hopefully it will slow down a bit as school is winding down. Tomorrow is the last day with kids and I go for a few hours on Friday.

      Chris- FYI.. I am SO MAKING that olive cream cheese doo dah.. and stuffing my face with it and celery asap. By the way, I have been craving cream cheese isn't that wild?
      Karin,
      HRT is a personal choice. I am just providing information that helped me.

      I don't recall how old you are or if you had a total hysterectomy, but Dr Elizabeth Lee Vliet in her book, Screaming To Be Heard, states:
      "If you've had a hysterectomy with removal of the ovaries, then it is even more crucial that you have adequate hormone replacement. The younger you are when you have the uterus and ovaries removed, the more important it is to be sure you are on the proper replacement hormone amount. In this situation, it truly is replacement therapy because your own ovaries were prematurely removed."

      My own experience, having started HRT around age 44, while still having periods with undetectable estradiol levels, is that it helped my muscle/joint pain, severe insomnia, and brain fog. I had developed osteopenia and after HRT my bone density greatly improved and is now stellar.

      I've only had a few hot flashes but did, and still do, have night sweats. The night sweat are worse if I eat sugar/grains/crap.

      I found Dr. Vleit's book, Women, Weight and Hormones, to be very educational, enlightening and helpful.
      Women, Weight and Hormones: A Weight-Loss Plan for Women Over 35: Elizabeth Lee Vliet: 9780871319326: Amazon.com: Books

      She also has a website: Welcome to Dr. Vliet's Home Page

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      • If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll get you a summary later (on my iPad now...hard to type much!).
        -- Ruth

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        • Originally posted by marcadav View Post
          Karin,
          HRT is a personal choice. I am just providing information that helped me.

          I don't recall how old you are or if you had a total hysterectomy, but Dr Elizabeth Lee Vliet in her book, Screaming To Be Heard, states:
          "If you've had a hysterectomy with removal of the ovaries, then it is even more crucial that you have adequate hormone replacement. The younger you are when you have the uterus and ovaries removed, the more important it is to be sure you are on the proper replacement hormone amount. In this situation, it truly is replacement therapy because your own ovaries were prematurely removed."

          My own experience, having started HRT around age 44, while still having periods with undetectable estradiol levels, is that it helped my muscle/joint pain, severe insomnia, and brain fog. I had developed osteopenia and after HRT my bone density greatly improved and is now stellar.

          I've only had a few hot flashes but did, and still do, have night sweats. The night sweat are worse if I eat sugar/grains/crap.

          I found Dr. Vleit's book, Women, Weight and Hormones, to be very educational, enlightening and helpful.
          Women, Weight and Hormones: A Weight-Loss Plan for Women Over 35: Elizabeth Lee Vliet: 9780871319326: Amazon.com: Books

          She also has a website: Welcome to Dr. Vliet's Home Page
          I am 42 and they took the ovaries, uterus and the cervix. They had me on a low level estrogen but I am like do I really need this? I will check out the sources you provided. I think I also need my meds checked as in upped or changed as I am not sure prozac is doing it for me. Oh and they told me I need to take calcium so I am.
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          • Hey this is a quote I took from Paula's thread that she found on Paleobird's

            This is from Paleobird's "Eat Moar Fat" thread...

            "I ran across an interesting formula for figuring your ratios from the work of Dr Jan Kwasniewski author of The Optimal Diet.
            First you figure up your IDEAL weight in KILOS. This is not necessarily the weight you are aiming for but it it your Ultimate HSIS (Hot Stuff In Swimwear) weight.
            HSIS weight in kilos plus/minus 10% = range for protein grams/day
            HSIS weight in kilos divided by 2 = upper end for carb grams/day
            The rest of your diet is fat. HSIS weight in kilos x anywhere from 2 to 3.5 depending on your weight goals (lower to lose, higher to gain)

            So, at my height and HSIS weight this come out to about 1500 calories if I use the low end of the fat range and that is sometimes hard to get enough to make that. I wouldn't want to do it any higher.

            Also, read the blog of Dr Peter Attia for more information on nutritional ketosis. "

            So this is mine...HSIS weight is 72kg (I actually look great at 160!)
            That makes my protein range 65g to 79g
            My carb upper end 36g
            And my fat would be 144g at the low end and well no need to figure out the high end!
            That brings my calories to between 1700 and 1750.
            this seems totally doable!

            For ease of remembering I am going 70g protein, half that in carbs=35g, double that in fat 140g and for now not stressing about calories, although theoretically this would make them work out right?
            Last edited by demuralist; 12-19-2012, 02:43 PM. Reason: spelling duh
            Chris
            "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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            My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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            • LOL This is the new plan that I hinted at in my journal a couple of weeks ago when my Whole 30 tanked. I feel like the pied piper with people jumping on LCHF with me. Hope it works well for everyone otherwise I might be run out of town.


              PS I dumped Prozac 3 months ago. it did not stop my binges which was my entire reason for going on it.
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              • we are all just looking for a reasonable plan that will keep us out of the pantry and/or the looney bin and help us to reach our potential. I for one am thrilled that you got this going. It really is all about timing. Until I had made a concerted effort with the high veggie high protein plan (which for me mentally seems the healthiest) I would not have done this. I never did the all out bacon thing, so this is new ground for me. Who'd a thunk it, trying to make myself eat less veggies?

                Paula, I can tell you that from my perspective the drop of prozac didn't seem to affect your attitude, so if it didn't help with binges it was time to drop it.
                Chris
                "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                • Yup, Once I knew it wasn't doing anything for me, I couldn't get off it fast enough.
                  Primal since 9/24/2010
                  "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                  • I can't say I've dropped a ton of weight yet (more on that in my journal later), but I sure feel better. I'm finally satisfied again. I'll see how the full week goes. There are a lot of places I can tweak. I'm trying to be scientific about this, so I can see if I can sorta pinpoint what is working and what is not.
                    -- Ruth

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                    • I am not organized enough to be scientific. If I was I might have figured this out a long time ago!
                      Chris
                      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                      My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                      • I'm not very good at it, obviously. One should both shift macros and introduce a food that you've know to have sensitivity to
                        -- Ruth

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                        • Originally posted by demuralist View Post
                          Hey this is a quote I took from Paula's thread that she found on Paleobird's

                          This is from Paleobird's "Eat Moar Fat" thread...

                          "I ran across an interesting formula for figuring your ratios from the work of Dr Jan Kwasniewski author of The Optimal Diet.
                          First you figure up your IDEAL weight in KILOS. This is not necessarily the weight you are aiming for but it it your Ultimate HSIS (Hot Stuff In Swimwear) weight.
                          HSIS weight in kilos plus/minus 10% = range for protein grams/day
                          HSIS weight in kilos divided by 2 = upper end for carb grams/day
                          The rest of your diet is fat. HSIS weight in kilos x anywhere from 2 to 3.5 depending on your weight goals (lower to lose, higher to gain)

                          So, at my height and HSIS weight this come out to about 1500 calories if I use the low end of the fat range and that is sometimes hard to get enough to make that. I wouldn't want to do it any higher.

                          Also, read the blog of Dr Peter Attia for more information on nutritional ketosis. "

                          So this is mine...HSIS weight is 72kg (I actually look great at 160!)
                          That makes my protein range 65g to 79g
                          My carb upper end 36g
                          And my fat would be 144g at the low end and well no need to figure out the high end!
                          That brings my calories to between 1700 and 1750.
                          this seems totally doable!

                          For ease of remembering I am going 70g protein, half that in carbs=35g, double that in fat 140g and for now not stressing about calories, although theoretically this would make them work out right?
                          OK.. 160 has always been my ultimate goal so would my macros be the same as yours?
                          Karin


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                          • I am trying to wrap my head around this.. what does an average day of food look like?
                            Karin


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                            • yep, your macros the same as mine.

                              Here is typical...

                              My day today...
                              Wake up...1tsp matcha powder, in 12oz water, 4T HnH (I shop at Trader Joes and their HWC is a very small container) whirled
                              Breakfast smoothie...1C unsweetened almond milk, 1C unsweetened coconut milk (from carton not can), 1T @ cocoa, chia, flax, & kosher gelatin, 2 eggs, and 14g MCT
                              Lunch....1 small avocado with 1T mayo and 1/4C toasted pecans, 1oz double cream gouda on the side, Double chocolate Mate with 1T HnH
                              Dinner....BAS with 3C mixed greens, cuke, red pepper, olive oil, apple cider vinegar with pumpkin seeds, walnuts and blue cheese. Then I add a protein source either salmon or chicken thighs or grass fed beef.
                              Snacking when needed....Cream cheese/tampenade/nut mix on celery.

                              My carbs go high, but right now I am doing net carbs so they end up coming in under my 36g limit. Also Dr. Attia talks about easing into this. I am hoping that by easing into it I can avoid the carb flu. fingers crossed on that one, so far so good.
                              Chris
                              "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                              My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                              My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                              • OK.. first off.. free kindle book ya'll might be interested in. How long it will be free? Who knows. Here is the link

                                17 Holiday Recipes for the Paleo, Primal, and Gluten-Free Inclined (17Recipes.com Series of eBooks): Allison Abdelnour, John Abdelnour: Amazon.com: Kindle Store

                                Well the weather rolled in yesterday and my asthma went into shock.. did a breathing treatment, did the ER inhaler, drank some green tea (everything I could think of) still felt like crap.. woke up in the middle of the night congested (tight chest), sore throat from hell and achey.. grrr.. I took some dayquil last night (otherwise I would not have woken up for work), it helped the symptoms a bit not not completely. I am clock watching though and taking it every 4 hours. In the end its a good thing I rescheduled my appt for the asthma doctor.. I would have failed that test miserably. I take it next week so who knows how that will play out.

                                Now.. head is achey, I can tell the meds are working, but they are not taking away all the symptoms. double grr..

                                I hate complaining but it seems I am really good at it.

                                Cocoa nibs.. I bought some.. I am thinking I can transition to snacking on them and or making crio bru with them as I take the plunge to swear off sugar and carbs. I crave the carbs but more than that, I am craving fat. Strange as it sounds I could actually eat a package of cream cheese with a spoon and think nothing of it. So when am I jumping on this fat train? When I am out of school and can rest a bit and get a clearer head. Today is the last day with students and tomorrow I am only in for 3 hours. So, saturday looks like a good day to start. However, I am not necessarily going overboard before then, just not tracking as close.
                                Karin


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