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  • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
    People complain about the grain free kibble being more expensive but I think it evens out because of the lower consumption.
    Not only lower consumption, but when, like human food, the quality is high the benefits are tremendous. Yes, grainfree dog food is more expensive than the stuff with fillers but if you are feeding half as much then the overall cost is the same!
    Pay twice as much, feed half as much. Do the math.
    Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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    • Originally posted by honeybuns View Post
      Not only lower consumption, but when, like human food, the quality is high the benefits are tremendous. Yes, grainfree dog food is more expensive than the stuff with fillers but if you are feeding half as much then the overall cost is the same!
      Pay twice as much, feed half as much. Do the math.
      Not only that, having a happy healthy Wolf Cub is priceless.

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      • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
        Not only that, having a happy healthy Wolf Cub is priceless.
        TOTALLY agree!
        Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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        • When we switched our dachshunds to a raw diet, the underweight one gained weight, the plump one slimmed down, and both their coats improved. Our vet has also commented that they have the cleanest teeth she has seen on dogs their age. They won't even touch things they now consider 'non-food', which includes dog biscuits! (Sorry, nice lady at the bank drive-thru window!)

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          • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
            Since I've switched my dog to grain free kibble I've noticed that he spontaneously limits his own portions. (Just like people going Primal.) He doesn't eat near as much as with the grain based stuff. And he waits for "human food" first like cooking scraps and bones after our meal, then, if he is still hungry, has a few bites of dog food.
            People complain about the grain free kibble being more expensive but I think it evens out because of the lower consumption.

            And his coat has gotten nice and shiny too.
            My cat is on grain-free kibble, her coat is nice and shiny now (had a lot of visible dander before, big flakes), sometimes she won't eat much and I worry because she follows me around the kitchen meowing, as though she's hungry, but there's food in the bowl. Sometimes if I give her a fresh bowl, she'll eat a little. If I put down some fat (olive oil on the food, baking sheet with some bacon grease on it), she'll eat a bit of that too (she's starting to get a taste for raw stuff, what have I gotten myself into?!). It didn't occur to me that she might be managing her own intake, so maybe that's what's going on! She's been tubby for quite a while, so it might take some time for her to stop begging.
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            • Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
              It didn't occur to me that she might be managing her own intake, so maybe that's what's going on!
              Now, why can't humans learn this lesson? DH didn't really believe there could be that much of a difference in appetite until the day we went fourteen hours without eating and weren't even hungry!
              Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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              • To my mind, the ability to skip meals without hypoglycemic panic setting in is the single most convincing argument for Primal/paleo being the natural way out bodies were designed to function.

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                • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                  To my mind, the ability to skip meals without hypoglycemic panic setting in is the single most convincing argument for Primal/paleo being the natural way out bodies were designed to function.
                  I totally agree. Someone was disputing the whole "eating every two hours to keep your metabolism revved" load of crap and I agree with what they said. We never would have survived as a species if that were true.

                  Yesterday I had another good example of how what you eat affects what you can do. On the third day we had Heidi (foster dog) she went on an RPR with us. Not even a quarter mile and she had to lay down several times. We went yesterday, which was day 11, and she did two miles without a problem or drop in energy. Difference? Since she has been here she is eating a quality food with high protein and is actually getting what she needs for muscle building and energy.

                  As for me, the scale has not dropped but I have had to put away 5 pairs of pants that are now too big. My body is indeed changing, even more so since I have increased my calories. I just need to work on the right balance of protein and fats, carbs be damned.

                  A lady I know essentially went Primal on June 18th to drop weight. She has now lost 23 pounds and told me yesterday that when the next three weeks are done she will start slowly adding sugars and grains back into her diet. AAAAACKK!!!! What could I do but tell her to please pay attention to how she feels when she does and let her know the differences we noticed. At least she knows what works now.
                  Last edited by honeybuns; 08-28-2012, 07:30 AM.
                  Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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                  • So, what do you do with a person that gives up on Primal after only two months? "Eating all that fat is keeping me from losing weight." Really? If I recall you did drop a few pounds, plus you keep forgetting you CAN and should eat fat, plus you have more energy, plus you aren't popping antacids, plus you now know what clean eating is. I give up. It is working for my husband and I and that is what is most important. Isn't it about the long term benefits rather than instant gratification, anyway?? Frustrating.
                    Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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                    • Hi honeybuns!

                      I read the last few posts, and couldn't agree more. I never could figure out how mankind managed to survive as a species when all that raw vegan tropical fruit ran out in the winters in Siberia and Norway and Ohio and stuff... and with the Primal, it wasn't just a light bulb, it was a whole damn light show. I am feeling soooo much better being fat-adapted, but I know it can be even better (I am reversing a lifetime of waaaaaaay too much sugar), and it is just the best knowing there is an EVEN BETTER out there.

                      re the animals - I have one raw cat, and have told my daughters that if they ever own cats of their own, feed raw after a proper weaning and don't look back. Dry kibble is a good stop-gap for natural disasters and such, but even then, get the kind that doesn't have wheat/corn. I learned the hard way the difference between (relatively speaking) good, bad, and best in the dry cat food department.
                      I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                      • People just give up too easily, I think. I can't imagine eating any other way but yesterday was the first day that I had constant and level energy (started on the 17th). It takes a little time. And, I find that some people are just adverse to this lifestyle/WOE.

                        By the way, I read your entire journal the other night and really enjoyed it!
                        Never argue for your limitations.

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                        • Grokalicious, welcome to my journal. Feel free to chime in any time. Don't you just love having energy?

                          The drawback to having constant energy is that I no longer can curl up with a good book and read for hours on end. I just cannot sit still that long and I am always thinking of what else I can be doing. I LOVE READING!!

                          For our twentieth anniversary my hubby gave me a 5.0 Mustang. Love that car but we haven't driven it for the past five years. Last night he ran across an ad on Craigslist where someone with a Jeep wants to trade for a 5.0 Mustang. This would be a win-win for us as this Jeep isn't a highway warrior but one that would be right at home on the logging roads. It would be a great way for DH to explore the high country with me. He has had three knee surgeries so hiking is out for him. Who knows if this will actually come about, but how cool would that be? Load the dogs, a picnic lunch and head up into the mountains for the day!
                          Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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                          • Hi honeybuns! Found your journal

                            Your RPR outings sound like so much fun! And, I am thrilled to find someone else *my age* that likes climbing trees! I haven't in a few years, but I can definitely feel the urge coming back as I get thinner and in better condition.

                            Looking forward to meeting you sometime.

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                            • RaeVynn, we WILL get together, I promise!!
                              Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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                              • Originally posted by RaeVynn View Post
                                Hi honeybuns! Found your journal

                                Your RPR outings sound like so much fun! And, I am thrilled to find someone else *my age* that likes climbing trees! I haven't in a few years, but I can definitely feel the urge coming back as I get thinner and in better condition.

                                Looking forward to meeting you sometime.
                                Last Saturday I was out on a hike in the backcountry and just felt the urge to climb a tree. So I did. I'm 50. It was fun.

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