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  • #46
    Moo, are you related to Ms. Cleo?? How did you know I was going to eat everything in the kitchen after dinner?? You should start a phone hotline. Or maybe a primal candy store because those recipes sound delicious!

    So last night's dinner was awesome. Yellow squash, brussel sprout tomato medley, aritchoke and lamb leg steak. I actually think the eating everything in the kitchen (2.5 scoops of almond butter, coconut milk and protein) had more to do with determining via fitday that I hadn't eaten enough protein than actual feelings of hunger. So, since part of my primal mission is to stop over analyzing my food consumption, I am promptly abandoning the fitday project for the foreseeable future. And for insurance I'll probably go back to only morning or late evening fasts, if at all.

    Another mistake I made was disregarding the potential effect of caffeine at night and drinking the lone packet of Lady Grey tea in the cupboard. On the bright side - it was educational. I determined that I don't like Lady Grey. Too much orange flavor for me. Turns out that caffeine before bed actually IS a bad idea though, because it seems like I woke up every half hour last night.

    This morning I was still fairly full from PROTEINPOWERHOUR last night so I just had the standard iced coffee. In another primal derailment I later consumed tamales, which is pretty much just a pile of lard and corn. A delicious pile. What can I say? I can resist free food, but I cannot resist free, homemade, Mexican food. Between those and last night's lack of sound sleep I'm pretty much in a coma as I write this. Psychologically I feel pretty good though. Abandoning fitday has reminded me that my point was to try and learn to relax and listen to when and what my body is asking for, not what the numbers say it SHOULD be asking for. TRUST THE HUNGER.

    On a much cheerier and far more primal note, GF and I hit up the local farmers market for groceries this morning. I'm very interested to see if the $100 worth of fare we picked up will last us the week. Highlights include:
    grass-fed lamb loin, beef tenderloin and beef rib steaks
    chorizo
    cage-free eggs, including a half dozen of the interesting multi-colored americana ones
    local, wild-caught trout
    a fruit that starts with a p and is related to nectarines

    With summer coming, fruit definitely seems to be the emphasis, particularly cherries, but there was still a good selection of veggies.

    Other things:

    Definitely feeling some welcome soreness from yesterday's work out. Makes me believe that perhaps the extra protein from yesterday went to good use.

    I'm so dry! Fortunately it appears that my scalp has finished peeling from last week's sunburn, but the rest of me is just bone dry. The weird part about it is that I quit soap three days ago! I shampooed today because I couldn't handle the grease anymore, but I haven't used any body wash (except in minimal select locations) since Tuesday. If anything, I seem dryer than usual? I've never noticed scaly elbows before, but I definitely have them today. Suspected reasons are: On Tues. I used Dr. Brommer's which I though would be mild, but seemed to be extremely drying, OR that I just haven't been using lotion like I usually do. I don't even shower in very hot water because I'm a sensitive wuss, so I know that isn't it. In any event, I'm going to continue to lay off the body wash and wait for my skin to reach a natural equilibrium. I hope.

    If I can convince Gf to put on some pants, I'm gonna try to drag her out to move frequently at a slow pace.

    Tomorrow, below average temps. be damned, we are going to Raging Waters! Play AND Get Some Sun! You'd better believe that I am gonna be rockin the SPF all the way into my hairline this time though. Peeling scalp just isn't cute.

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    • #47
      Raging Waters!
      Slides were fun (but kind of brutal? I don't remember that pain from childhood). GF and friend were great. Sun was lovely, and would have been perfect if not for having to compete with the gusty wind.

      Other than that, the experience was a showcase of the effects of the SAD on our communities.
      I would confidently estimate that 90% of the patrons were overweight, and that includes children.
      Food options included things like, burgers, pizza, nachos, churros, and dippin dots, which are not even real ice cream, much less real food. That was it. I didn't even see a semi-healthy prospect like the ever-popular fruit cup, and the closest thing to not-death was called "Cowabunga Chicken."
      The staircases that slidegoers are required to climb were literally coming apart at the seams. They have been sort of mickeymoused into submission, but come the busy season, I hope the park considers a complete overhaul.
      Many patrons were stopping on said stair landings to catch their breath.
      A pair of grown men asked a lifeguard to move the floating log of an obstacle course closer so they could reach it. UM, NO. THAT IS WHY IT'S AN OBSTACLE COURSE.
      Also, the weight limit for paired-rider slides is 400 pounds. Many couples walking around the park far exceeded that.

      On the one hand, the park needs to beef up their attractions to accommodate the ever-burgeoning population.

      On the other hand, stop feeding the ever-burgeoning population crap!

      For the sake of safety and my season pass, I hope they address the former first, but really, Raging Waters, not even a fruit cup?


      For our part, we skipped the food at the park and hit In N Out on the way home.
      I got a respectably primal double double, protein style (no bun, wrapped in lettuce instead), with grilled onions and sanz sugar-infused condiments. Tasty.

      Breakfast was eggs with chorizo from the farmers' market, spinach, onions, tomatoes, mushrooms, and never complete without COFFEE AND BACON.

      Looks like I avoided another sunburn (Yay!), but I should go wash off the chlorine before I start to look like a nuclear experiment.

      P.S. I had a much easier time walking barefoot on the prickly ground than my companions. Vibrams FTW!

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      • #48
        O.M.G.
        I almost forgot the best part!
        This morning I put the swim shorts on that I wore to the river last summer and they were... kind of loose. It hadn't even occurred to me that I'm at least 15lbs lighter now than I was then. Even GF noticed, (which she almost never does) that the shorts were no longer stretched tight across my ass. Win.

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        • #49
          Congrats!! That's a great feeling, isn't it?
          "If a man has common sense, he has all the sense there is."

          My Journal - http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30234.html


          Starting weight prePB - 258 lbs on 5/6/11

          244.2 lbs on 6/3/11 (28 days in!)

          240 lbs on 7/1/11 (59 days in!)

          234.2 on 7/15/11 (73 days in!)

          228.2 on 8/12/11 (101 days in!)

          224 on 8/28/11 (117 days in!)

          220.6 on 9/14/11 (134 days in!)

          Goal weight PB - 205 lbs

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          • #50
            So I ate cereal for breakfast this morning. The blender parts haven't arrived yet and I couldn't eat another egg. And GF was refusing to finish the box because it didn't "have enough for a full serving."
            I know, I know, bring out the fire pokers and string me up over an ignited bale of hay. I'm already retaining an extra two pounds of water so maybe I'll even burn slower.
            I'm recording it mostly because I am in sort of an off mood. I don't know whether it's from the golean or the fact that I've been sorting someone elses tax receipts all day, but the correlation may prove useful in a later analysis.

            I also think it's worthwhile to mention that when I initially dropped four pounds on PB, I was still eating cereal or oatmeal for breakfast on a regular basis, but NO grains after 12pm. Since cutting the grains completely, my weight has definitely plateaued.

            What I'm thinking is not that I want to reintroduce grains. The improvements in my mood, skin, confidence in my diet, and almost complete absence of digestive issues since cutting grains makes me certain that I don't need them in my life. What I AM thinking, is that I may want to up the veggies and fruit relative to the fat for a while and see how that works.

            I feel like I'm sort of all over the place at this point. I know dietary changes need time to work, but I think what I'm doing is more trying to intuitively find my sweet spot, which I suspect might be closer to the 100g carb range than the 50g I've been hanging around. Maybe.

            Incidentally, I know I've been emphasizing all of the slips lately, but I don't want to seem like I've leapt off the wagon and starting dancing naked in the woods in anti-primal rituals. I'm definitely still at at least 80%, just trying to use that 20 to figure out what's ideal for me. Reading other journals has helped me realize that even with primal, there's no one-size-fits-all approach.

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            • #51
              Definitely the same thing that you do wouldn't work for me and vice versa. I absolutely stay away from fruit which isn't a bad thing for me just because I don't really like fruit. On a specially ocassion, sure I'll eat some. Grains make me furiously ill now. It just takes a bit of play to find what works for you.
              Georgette

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              • #52
                Yes, the diet is definitely a work in progress.
                I have some misgivings about the fruit as well honestly, mostly having to do with my deep distrust of fructose. Thinking I will up the veg first and just maybe just let down my guard on the fruit a little bit.

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                • #53
                  Sweet potatoes are your friend, if you care for them.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by unsuperb View Post
                    Sweet potatoes are your friend, if you care for them.
                    I do. Purchased and sitting on the counter

                    Today's moving around slowly involved an hour of digging up backyard weeds in the rain to prep for the vegetable garden I'm planning. Said vegetable garden may or may not happen based on whether or not the mysterious amount on my tax return transcript is money I still owe the IRS or not. Wah wah wah.

                    In terms of diet, today has seemed better, intuitively, which was the goal. Whether or not my intuition proves to be at all useful in my dietary alterations remains to be seen

                    I'm back on fitday. ( I know, I resolved to quit it like two days ago and have already gone back. I'm a sucker for a pie chart. And pie.)

                    So far, today looks like this:

                    B: Coffee and heavy cream; 2 Eggs in butter w/chorizo, onion, spinach and bell pepper

                    L: Banana w/almond butter; Salad w/romaine, chard, broccoli, mushroom, bell pepper, tomato, chicken (EVOO), mixed nuts and EVOO/balsamic/mustard dressing

                    ?: Protein shake - ON 100% Whey w/unsweetened almond milk

                    According to fitday so far:
                    Cal: 1489
                    Fat: 66% @ 111.2g
                    Carb: 16% @ 62.5g
                    Protein: 18% @ 70.2g

                    Dinner will probably be awesome farmers' market grass-fed short ribs and artichokes w/mayo. I'll update numbers when I know for sure.

                    Overall changes for today:

                    Meals were more evenly spread out. Not intentionally, just worked out that way. I don't know how conducive this will end up being to fat burning, but it did FEEL balanced. Might just be a CW relic, remains to be seen.

                    More carbs. I was at or under 50 for a good part of last week and I think today I'm going to land around 70. Again, FEELS better, but not in any quantifiable way. Just seems more suitable for me. Still, it's only been a day, so it needs some more experimenting.

                    I read something about certain folks having more luck burning fat when they increased protein, so I'm generally looking to try that out. I feel like LHT has been pretty productive so that may benefit me in the muscle department as well.

                    I'm definitely more tired today than usual, but I also stayed out playing Scattergories until 11:30 last night. #thatswhatyoucallapartywhenyoureinalongtermrelatio nship.

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                    • #55
                      ** Thought it was about time I stopped creepin' and got an avatar. Sorry about the dipshit facial expression, it was the only picture I could find that didn't have other people in it.

                      Cheers.

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                      • #56
                        I like this thread. Fact that you're around the same height/age as me, and before PB were nearish the same weight that I was makes me want to read and see what you're doing.

                        Plus bits of your first post made me giggle.
                        And I have become slightly obsessed with the fact that Daily Burn can make pretty pretty charts of my fat/protein/carb intake.
                        Last edited by sarah1990; 06-01-2011, 03:29 PM. Reason: aaargh you're not your woman!!
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                        • #57
                          @sarah1990 - Excellent! I think by watching what I'm up to from day to day you will find that I generally have no idea what I'm doing. Running around like a chicken with it's head cut off, mostly. PB guidelines are fantastic though, and I'm sort of looking for my ideal formula within them at this point. I'll be interested to see what's working for you as well, given our similar stats. Obviously everything you do will be done with a much cooler accent, though.

                          Today:

                          B: 2.5 eggs with chorizo, spinach, onions, peppers (red & jalapeno), mushrooms and I was feelin' cheese today, so a little bit of cheddar on top

                          L: Whey & almond milk, Salad with left over chopped veg from breakfast, chicken, and almonds


                          MFAASP was inadvertently turned into LHT today. Went out in the backyard to take advantage of the rain an pull some more weeds, as well as load up the piles into a yard waste bin. Wow, those things get heavy quickly. Nearly dislocated both of my arms trying to drag it around to the front of the house through the mud and rock. It says max weight is 200lbs for pick up and I might kill someone if I have to unload and refill another bin because it's too heavy for the machine arm on the truck.

                          GF actually acknowledged that I have a bicep yesterday (only on the right arm) so clearly something is working.

                          On the menu for dinner tonight is grass-fed lamb and asparagus.
                          Will probably do another protein & almond milk before then in line with current protein campaign.

                          OH, also, I've given up trying to be a tea person. I mean I enjoy a cup every now and then but, fundamentally, I am a coffee person. Tea, no matter how delicious, is not coffee. Established this last night with a beautiful cup of post-dinner decaf.

                          Weather out here still sucks. Rain and below-average temps for the foreseeable future? Sure! Thanks, California! Not like I was expecting you to make up for last Summer's shit weather. Keep stickin it to us to prove to the disbelievers that climate change really exists!

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                          • #58
                            That is generally my approach, the "fingers crossed I'm doing it right because I am pulling all ideas for this meal out of nowhere!"
                            The book and this forum are definitely a great help in staying on the right track or at least learning more useful info.


                            Also how can you have "2.5" eggs. Where does the half egg come from?!
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                            • #59
                              Haha, good catch! Making breakfast for two, is how I accomplished that numerical feat. 5 eggs in the pan split down the middle.

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                              • #60
                                Oh haha, makes perfect sense!
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