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  • #16
    Decided to get serious about all of this and really cleaned up my diet. Been very strict Paleo (no grains, legumes, dairy [except a little butter and cheese once] booze, etc) for 11 days now.

    I started at 192 or 194, and quickly shot down to 188. I'm not sure what my weight is now, after 11 days, but I feel really great. Having a lot of fun eating hash in the AM, with tubers (not white potatoes) occasionally. Minimal meat is grass-fed, so I go lean and cook in coconut oil. Greens are always organic, as are thin-skinned fruits. No more than 1 piece of fruit a day (or 7 pieces in a week). Spending a lot of time in ketosis, keeping water. Doing dog walks in the AM while fasted, first meal usually around noon.

    My skin is tight, I'm getting stronger, and I feel great. I've been keeping a notebook of all my food and exercise, sleep, etc.

    Yesterday, I did Jiu-jitsu for the first time. Today, I'm a bit (read: A LOT) sore. Feels good. Been doing TPB workouts, modifying to include my kettlebell. Doing 45 days strict Paleo/TPB, then competing in the Warrior Dash in New Orleans. I'm getting myself the best birthday gift I can imagine - incredible health!

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    • #17
      Below is what I've eaten the past 13 days, doing Primal. I've cut out all alcohol, and only had dairy a few times. My exercise is to sprint 1x/week, lift heavy things 2x, and lots of walking/biking. My goal is fat loss and to look like this guy as soon as possible. At the start, I weighted 192 lbs. After 13 days, I weight ~188lbs. I want functional fitness and a great body.

      I'm looking for any help that I can get to clean this up. I'm already feeling leaner and stronger. I'm sure it's just beginners gains, but my biceps are bigger and I feel more "solid". This week, I'm will be doing 30-40min walks every day. My bike is working again, and the Florida sunshine makes riding a lot more fun than Michigan did!

      Here's what I've been putting in my mouth:

      Day 1 - January 24, 2011
      B - 5 pieces pork butt, fried in its own fat, 4 eggs, garlic, 2 sprigs lettuce
      L - Chicken sausage, fried in olive oil (started shopping for coconut oil)
      D - Grilled chicken breast on greens with vinegar (skipped oil, suspected it was soybean. At a restaurant)
      Cup of tea

      Day 2
      12:30p - 2 baked salmon steaks with balsamic
      2:00p - Cup of organic tea
      3:30p - Cup of organic carrot & ginger soup from local Co-op
      7:00p - 2 nori rolls, 1 avocado, 1/3 cauliflower head, 1/3 cucumber, 2 Tbs sriracha (has ~1-2g sugar)
      *Had the runs during the day. Probably related to a lack of processed foods?

      Day 3
      B - 5 pieces of pork butt bacon, 3 eggs, with 2 cloves garlic
      L - 1.5 rolls sushi (same as Day 2)
      D - 2.5 oz Tuna sashimi, wakame salad, pot of organic tea,
      D2 - Salmon steak (@11p) with balsamic

      Day 4
      2p - 30 kettlebell swings, 10 pushups, 5 pullups, 1 min rest - 5 rounds for time. 1:20, 1:39.
      3:30p - Salmon steak w/ balsamic, boiled bratwurst with 1/3 red onion sauteed in olive oil, granny smith apple
      6:30p - Big steak with butter and seasoning salt (contained cornstarch [mom made dinner])

      Day 5
      11:30a - 3 eggs, 1/4 red onion, 5 pieces of porkbutt, 4 stalks asparagas
      Possibly more. Didn't record. All Paleo.

      Day 6
      Big beef roast with garlic and onion. Side salad.
      Didn't record anything else - I was starting my move to another state and spent most of the time in the car.

      Day 7
      Breakfast hash (beef leftovers, rutabaga, 2-3 eggs
      L - 5 hardboiled eggs in vinegar (road trip from MI to WV)
      1 Avocado
      Started 24 hour IF at 3p

      Day 8
      6x75pace sprints in IHOP parking lot in Georgia
      3p - 14oz steak and double order steamed broccoli at IHOP (was on the road)
      D - 1/2 whole rotisserie chicken with Franks Red Hot and some Hot Paleo Chocolate (too much sugar!)

      Day 9 - Now living in Sebastian, FL (sunshiiiiine!)
      3 RFT - 10 pull, 50 squat - no rest. 8:31
      *Used a tree for pullups. Thick bar, hard to do the pulls!
      Breakfast hash - 1/2 rutabaga, 1/2 red onion, coconut oil, 1 steak
      2 Sliders w/ egg - 1/4 onion, 2 peppers, 2 beef sliders, 1 fried egg
      5 pieces of asparagus in coconut oil, 1 slice of tomato

      Day 10
      1 RFT - 26 pushups, 20/5l/5r kb swings, 60 sec plank, 5l/5r snatch, 8 pullups, 13 divebombers, 20/5l/5r kb swing - 6:37
      1.5 hr Ju-jitsu
      30min walk
      1 stalk broccoli, 2 big leaves of kale steamed with salt
      1 granny smith apple
      1/2 rotisserie chicken after Ju-jitsu
      1 organic orange

      Day 11
      11a - 3 pieces bacon, 3 eggs friend, 1/4 sweet potato, cup of tea with honey
      5p - 1 organic orange, can of boneless/skinless sardines
      6p - 40min walk
      8p - Pork roast, fried okra with egg wash
      2 pieces of chocolate at dinner, spoon of raspberry sorbet
      *Shoulders and thigh sore from Ju-jitsu

      Day 12
      3 RFT - 10 push, 5l/r snatch, 30 squat, 7 pullups, 30sec plank. 2:23/2:27/2:40
      12p - 1/4 sweet potato, 1/4 rutabaga, 3 egg whites (leftover from housemate's recipe), steak, pineapple wedge
      8p - Paleo Brussels Sprouts with Bacon and Cheese (heavy cream, bleu chz, bacon), Grilled chicken and veggies, 1 piece key lime pie (no crust, condensed milk, key lime juice, dairy)

      Day 13
      12p - 1/4 sweet potato, steak, greens in hash w coconut oil
      40-60min bike ride (probably too fast)
      20min beach walk
      8p - 2 handfuls of almonds
      8:30p - 2.5 slices bacon, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, olive oil (1 Tbs), 2 beef sliders fried in bacon fat with 1/4 onion (plus some bleu cheese on top)
      9:30 - 7 strawberries in heavy cream
      *Stomach upset after dairy. Felt it after the cream, might have been the cheese too, but I'm not sure. Stomach was bubbling, felt bloated.

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      • #18
        And for the record -- I JUST DID MY FIRST HEADSTAND TO HANDSTAND PUSHUP! Holy cow, incredible!

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        • #19
          Congrats on the pushup!!!

          Your food looks pretty good to me.
          Eventually, I would cut down on the fruit and sub starchy vegetables--but do it gently! This is a HUGE change for your metabolism...
          You may want to read this.
          Ancestral Nutrition Coaching
          Pregnancy Nutrition Coaching
          Primal Pregnancy Nutrition Article

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          • #20
            Thanks for the link. I'll take a look into it.

            I'm a bit cautious with the root veggies. I've noticed a dip in my energy and mood when I'm fruit-free. I think I'll get some ketostix today and see how things change when I eat a little fruit. Today, the only fruit was 6 strawberries, plus 1/4 of a sweet potato (in breakfast hash).

            Is 1/4 of a sweet potato too much on a daily basis? I can cut back, no problem.

            Further - How many hours of your day is fasted? I tend to eat between noon and 9p, fasting for 15 hours. LeanGains says that this is idea, and I like that (mostly because I'm lazy in the AM and don't cook!).

            Thanks for the help, dragonfly.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by fusarium View Post
              Is 1/4 of a sweet potato too much on a daily basis? I can cut back, no problem.
              I'd say not, but if you want to be that particular, experiment and see where your sweet spot is. Might also depend on the size of your sweet potato.

              It can also vary with how much you're moving, how much fat you're eating, and anything else that affects how you feel. I eat more sweet potatoes when it gets cold out.
              Most people don't realize how much energy it takes for me to pretend to be normal.

              If I wanted to listen to an asshole, I'd fart.

              Twibble's Twibbly Wibbly

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              • #22
                I was actually thnking of more sweet potato, less fruit.

                I IF most days between 5pm and 9 am.
                Ancestral Nutrition Coaching
                Pregnancy Nutrition Coaching
                Primal Pregnancy Nutrition Article

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                • #23
                  I'll go less-fruit after my next meal - I've got some EXPENSIVE organic strawberries that I want to finish (6 left).

                  Was reading Lean Gains and Brad Pilon's "Eat, stop, eat", and am unsure of what to actually do in terms of IF. Am I better to not eat for one 24/36 hour period through the week, or only eat within an 8 hour window (16-17h fasting) on a daily basis?

                  Twibble, after moving to Florida - I'm just not cold anymore! :-)

                  Regarding fat, I eat fat from bacon, lean meats (aside from bacon), use coconut oil almost daily, and olive oil.

                  Would it be wise to check my ketones on a regular level?

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                  • #24
                    HooooDANG. I made this for dinner and LOVED it.

                    Cheap, simple, delicious curry chicken. http://cosmopolitanprimalgirl.wordpr...curry-chicken/

                    I love being able to search on my phone for "SPICE PROTEIN paleo", like "curry chicken paleo" or "peach tenderloin paleo" and finding a recipe. So thankful for the Google.

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                    • #25
                      Picked up a set of ketostix from Walgreens yesterday. Been testing my levels before and after meals. I'm at 'moderate' ketones.

                      Today, I was all sorts of pissed off. It's not really like me to get like this, so I have to assume it's related to sugar in my diet. Being away from white sugar isn't the issue - it's cutting out all fruit. I had to eat half of a date today to keep things happy. Seriously - I would have choke-slammed anyone that came near me! It was one of those days.

                      With a BMR of 1956kcal, not counting any activity factor (45-min walk daily, primal fitness 3x/wk), I need to eat ~1500 kcal/day. Split between 2 meals, that's 750 each.

                      Based on FitDay, I burned 3,342 kcal today (walking, sitting, hanging), and ate 99.8g carbs (!! almost all from the sweet potato !!). Total kcal in = 1741.

                      3342-1741 = 1601. Snap! That's a ton. I'm feeling pretty good, but a bit hungry. Tomorrow, I'll front-load the food a bit and continue to drink a ton of water. 6 big fat glasses today, and I'm still letting go of ketones!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by fusarium View Post
                        1.) Mothers milk is 6% protein by calories. When we're infants, we need the most protein for our growing bodies. Why such a low percent?
                        2.) Doesn't the protein in meat get 'denatured' when we cook it, making it difficult for the body to know exactly what it is?
                        3.) What should proper digestion look like? In my opinion, it should be a quick visit to the bathroom for elimination, because anything else would put us at a prime position to get eaten by a cougar. Is this experienced for long-term Primalers?
                        1. How much dietary protein can you store in muscle? About 15 g/d if you are a gifted bodybuilder
                        2. "But cooking also altered the meat itself. It breaks up the long protein chains, and that makes them easier for stomach enzymes to digest."
                        3. Don't Just Sit There! How bathroom posture affects your health.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by fusarium View Post
                          Picked up a set of ketostix from Walgreens yesterday. Been testing my levels before and after meals. I'm at 'moderate' ketones.

                          Today, I was all sorts of pissed off. It's not really like me to get like this, so I have to assume it's related to sugar in my diet. Being away from white sugar isn't the issue - it's cutting out all fruit. I had to eat half of a date today to keep things happy. Seriously - I would have choke-slammed anyone that came near me! It was one of those days.
                          If your fructose load comes from fruit, I wouldn't sweat it. Don't need to go cold turkey on fruit, just cut back.

                          Originally posted by fusarium View Post
                          With a BMR of 1956kcal, not counting any activity factor (45-min walk daily, primal fitness 3x/wk), I need to eat ~1500 kcal/day. Split between 2 meals, that's 750 each.

                          Based on FitDay, I burned 3,342 kcal today (walking, sitting, hanging), and ate 99.8g carbs (!! almost all from the sweet potato !!). Total kcal in = 1741.

                          3342-1741 = 1601. Snap! That's a ton. I'm feeling pretty good, but a bit hungry. Tomorrow, I'll front-load the food a bit and continue to drink a ton of water. 6 big fat glasses today, and I'm still letting go of ketones!
                          How does calories, a measure of heat, translate to mass? Einstein, anyone? Seriously, stop counting calories; it's stupid. Energy will be conserved. You don't have to count to prove it. One, you can't measure accurately enough for it to matter. And, two, you'd have to burn your own shit to account for the calories out part of it, too. Just like a cholesterol test only affirms your diet, neither tell you anything particularly useful.

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                          • #28
                            js290,

                            Thanks for the reply. I'm keen to reduce the amounts of carbs coming in - shocked at the level from sweet potato.

                            Regarding calories, I am picking up what you're putting down. It's just part of me that loves numbers! I've been on the scale 2 times in the last week with no movement - time to put that damn scale away.

                            I'm seeing a TON of definition in my shoulders and my shirts are fitting better.

                            WOD:
                            10 pushups
                            7l/7r kb snatch
                            50 squat
                            7 fat-bar pullup
                            40sec plank
                            60sec rest

                            3 RFT.
                            3:24/4:00/4:26
                            + some kb swings, snatches, 60sec final plank.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by fusarium View Post
                              js290,

                              Thanks for the reply. I'm keen to reduce the amounts of carbs coming in - shocked at the level from sweet potato.

                              Regarding calories, I am picking up what you're putting down. It's just part of me that loves numbers! I've been on the scale 2 times in the last week with no movement - time to put that damn scale away.
                              I posted this response to another thread, but since you like to count:

                              If you're going to count anything, count macronutrient intake. Keep track using this software by the Health Correlator. At least then you can make some association between the nutrient content of your diet and your weight.

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                              • #30
                                Day 19 - Feeling great. Had a glass of wine the other night, woke up the next day a little 'hung over'. Might be an allergy, going to try that experiment again tomorrow! :-)

                                Made the Brussel's Sprout recipe that yodiewan recommended on Page 2. Second time making it, second time loving it. SO GOOD.

                                WOD:
                                45sec Plank
                                30 KB swings
                                10 Burpees (with jump at the end)
                                7 wide-bar pullups
                                60sec rest

                                3 RFT.

                                Then 7 snatches with each hand on the 'bell, 7 divebombs.

                                I can already feel the increase in strength, and my clothes are fitting me better.

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